Saturday College Football Open Thread

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Posted on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 08:50:12 AM EST
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Will he play? That's the question of the day in college football - will Florida QB Tim Tebow play when the Gators travel to Death Valley to face LSU. My view remains that even if the doctors clear him, he should sit. Concussions are a very serious thing. Even with Tebow, winning in Death Valley at night is almost impossible. Florida is a 7 point favorite over LSU. I can not imagine LSU getting beat by 7 at home. In any event, Go Gators!

My first selection pick (I'm 15-10 (.600) on the season) is Iowa (-8) over Michigan. I have never been a believer in Michigan and Iowa's offense has improved. Iowa should win easily. More . .

In Tallahassee, the behavior of FSU boosters has been appalling. Bobby Bowden is FSU football. He gets to decide when he quits. To confound the critics, Bowden's FSU team (-3) beats Georgia Tech today.

Talk about no respect, undefeated Wisconsin is a 16 point underdog at Columbus today. Ohio State has a mediocre offense and Wisconsin is not terrible. I like the Badgers(+16).

Stanford travels to Oregon State today. I think the Cardinal are for real. I like Stanford (Even) today.

Hey Alabama travels to Oxford today. While Ole Miss is a good team, the Crimson Tide could be a great one. I like the Tide (-4.5).

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Oh, maybe Michigan will beat OSU (none / 0) (#1)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 09:14:09 AM EST

this year?

Anything is possible (none / 0) (#8)
by Steve M on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:37:00 AM EST

it would certainly get Rodriguez off the hot seat for some time. But this team is iffy and I think the bloom has started to come off the rose already.


ESPN's equivalent of MLB Gameday (none / 0) (#9)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:40:56 AM EST

froze on my computer during that OT last week. Why couldn't Michigan manage to get a touchdown in 15 minutes?


Forcier threw an inerception (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:56:43 AM EST

during Michigan OT possession.


The real answer (5.00 / 1) (#31)
by Steve M on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:48:32 AM EST

is DESTINY.


At least it wasn't bad officiating. (none / 0) (#32)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:50:15 AM EST

And meanwhile (5.00 / 1) (#50)
by Steve M on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 01:11:45 PM EST

Michigan State rolling over Illinois, 24-0 currently. Wonder if the Spartans will finish with a better record than the Wolverines!


: Possible. (none / 0) (#65)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:16:35 PM EST

College Overtime (none / 0) (#13)
by CoralGables on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:54:04 AM EST

isn't a 15 minute period. It's each team gets the ball once and see who scores more. If still tied they do it again.


Interesting, as ESPN had game clock stuck (none / 0) (#14)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:55:18 AM EST

at 15.


: There is no game clock (none / 0) (#92)
by cal1942 on Sun Oct 11, 2009 at 01:37:15 AM EST

in College overtime. The usual playclock applies but ther is no game clock.
The college football overtime rules are superior to the pro football overtime rules.

Auburn Arkansas (none / 0) (#2)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 09:47:47 AM EST

New artificial turf in Fayetteville, which means little effect from the rain during the week.

Arkansas does not field a great team on offense, but it can be potent. Arkansas' defense is woeful.

Auburn has a strong offense and a pretty good defense. Will special teams hold on to the ball and convert FG's?

A shootout or a blowout?

Shootout-- 48-41 Auburn.

: Blowout (none / 0) (#54)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 02:23:43 PM EST

but in the wrong direction. C'mon, water lizards! Need a tie tie tie in the SEC west!
go Gators! Go Rebels!

RE: LSU -Florida (none / 0) (#3)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 09:49:22 AM EST

the threat of Tebow coming off the bench is better than starting him. Gators by 4.

Actually, the biggest question of the day is... (none / 0) (#4)
by rdandrea on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 09:52:29 AM EST

Will Penn State beat the spread against Eastern Illinois?

Not to mention the more obvious question: why are they playing Eastern Illinois today?

To all you sports writer wannabees; (none / 0) (#5)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 09:58:17 AM EST

Terrific. And funny.

BTD, how was Bruuuce last night? (none / 0) (#6)
by ruffian on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:10:39 AM EST

always great, I know, but any live rarities from the vault, or special guests?

No guests (none / 0) (#7)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:20:08 AM EST

Great version of the Stones' "Last Time."

Last rock show at Giants Stadium.


Were there program notes, or does (none / 0) (#10)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:41:41 AM EST

everybody just know this stuff?


Everybody just knows (5.00 / 2) (#11)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:49:24 AM EST

It's been 30 years of shows.

This was like my 20th.


Sort of a habit with you :) (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:57:00 AM EST

I love his music, but my father ruined any love affair for me because all he used to do was sit around all day long getting stoned to 'Born in the U.S.A.' when it first came out. It is really grating and irritating to have a parent so constantly wiped out and wailing :)


Do you favor legalization of marijuana? (none / 0) (#17)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:01:47 AM EST

: Why Not? (none / 0) (#18)
by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:16:17 AM EST

Just as long as you don't make me smoke it :) I'm going to be super truthful. With my fathers head injury, which is similar to the blast injuries we are seeing in the military...and how little knowledge was known about such things 30 years ago and still is, he has always self medicated. Like many people with head injuries though alcohol brings out the very worst in him. One day after he had been drinking I took him outside at my grandparents house and told him that it seemed to me that he'd better stay away from alcohol and I wouldn't give him any more crap about getting stoned. I also told him that I would even run interference if conversations or concerns came up with my grandparents. He deserves comfort. It comforts him, it calms him. I can't stand it though and neither can his granddaughter for some reason. She says that stoned people act like idiots and SpongeBob was created for teenagers in her generation to get stoned to :) She does not allow Zoey to watch SpongeBob :)

Really is too bad (none / 0) (#80)
by ruffian on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 06:47:01 PM EST

But I understand.

You might like the concerts though - he doesn't really do much from that album, and they are just pure fun.


: I'm certain that I would like the concerts (none / 0) (#95)
by Militarytracy on Sun Oct 11, 2009 at 07:21:46 AM EST

But I suppose they aren't a priority because I didn't get to develop my own opinion of Bruce before I had to deal with my dads :) Bruce seems to do okay though even if I'm not fighting to get his tickets when he tours.

They just announced yesterday (none / 0) (#24)
by Maryb2004 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:29:39 AM EST

that he's playing the Born to Run album at my concert in a few weeks. Now I don't feel so bad about not making it to Chicago.


I saw the born to run concerts (5.00 / 1) (#26)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:37:03 AM EST

in 75 or early 76... heck, might have been 77 but i think it was 75...

ABSOLUTELY SPECTACULAR.

the BEST.CONCERT.EVER. 1800 folks sounded line 18,000.

And I saw Santana in 1970, Blood Sweat and Tears in 69,and The 5th Dimension in '71.

Also saw The Carpenters, which was nice... but in a different way.

Funkadelic was a party, more than a concert--Note to Kdog, if there is ever a Funkadelic reunion in the WORLD-- let's buy tickets.


I always find it somewhat hilarious (5.00 / 2) (#40)
by Maryb2004 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:56:22 AM EST

that those of us at his concerts now, singing along about about towns full of losers and runaway american dreams, have all grown up to be lawyers and accountants and stock brokers. It would have been great to have seen him in concert the year it came out. Before we all sold out. :)


: You guys evolved (5.00 / 1) (#44)
by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 12:02:30 PM EST

You became something different out of everything that once was, and I think everybody had to say goodbye to certain social/cultural aspects that were passing away.

: Yes that struck me too (none / 0) (#81)
by ruffian on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 06:49:49 PM EST

as I raised my hands and screamed 'baby we were born to run'. Well, maybe not so much.
I was always more of a Thunder Road kinda gal anyway.

SAw him on The River tour (none / 0) (#61)
by scribe on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 03:50:10 PM EST

in DC back in '81, and a Christmas show at the Spectrum in Philly.

Still have the ticket stubs, 30 years on.

If he's going to do album concerts, I wish he'd do Nebraska.


: Me too - River Tour in LA was the (none / 0) (#82)
by ruffian on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 06:56:15 PM EST

first time I saw him. Haven't been to anywhere near 30 shows though. I think 6 or 7, if you count the Amnesty International benefit.
Makes it more of an event I guess!

Alternative way to spend this Sat.: (none / 0) (#12)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:53:02 AM EST

Met HD movie of Tosca. At opening night many at the Met booed the director, who wasn't Zeffirelli. Martin Bernheimer, formerly music critic for LAT and now writing for FT, said he didn't like Zeffirelli's production and doesn't like this one either. For one thing, Tosca doesn't leap off the Castel San Angelo at the end. A puppet Tosca does instead.

Playing to a Tough Crowd...sheesh (none / 0) (#19)
by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:18:55 AM EST

And they booed the conductor at (none / 0) (#20)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:21:05 AM EST

opening night of Aida.


Alright, that's enough (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:25:34 AM EST

Nobody can watch Glenn Beck, Presidential speeches with the whole Congress in audience, or teabagger clips for the next six months :) It's rubbing off


They think they are at La Scala. (none / 0) (#22)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:26:50 AM EST

America is such a ripper offer (none / 0) (#25)
by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:32:32 AM EST

I think that we should only allow booing in Italy, and that would be good for the travel industry. Everybody sick of it in Italy can treat their loved ones to a no boo preformance of their choice during their trip to America, and all the booers can go through the schedules and buy tickets to preformances they hope to boo at on their trips to Italy.


Sorely disappointed @ La Scala in (none / 0) (#27)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:38:08 AM EST

Sept. Saw Balanchine's choreography of Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream music. La Scala Ballet and La Scala orchestrata members and conductor. Nary a boo. Disappointing. Although we really enjoyed the performance. Opera company tours at that time.


did you see them at La Scala, (none / 0) (#28)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:39:46 AM EST

or touring company?


At La Scala. A 100 places to see (5.00 / 2) (#30)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:41:26 AM EST

goal accomplished. Also La Fenice. Now must take in a live Springsteen concert!


I am envious! (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:50:20 AM EST

but I wouldn't trade the skinny bruce in the early 70's for La Scala.

I'll make it one day. If I'm disappointed, it's still La Scala!


Bruce is nearing the top of my list given (5.00 / 1) (#37)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:52:55 AM EST

all his super fans here. Loved the clips last week. But I would also like to see an opera at La Scala.


: When I saw him, some 35 years ago, (5.00 / 2) (#45)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 12:03:31 PM EST

he was this guy from Jersey who actually liked his fans. The radio station I listened to at the time, a 1000 watt AM powerhouse, had him on for an interview, and they said later that Bruce, the E Street Band, and Clarence Clemons then went and had a pitch with the staff.
great music, approachability, and baseball. and a Democrat. He is a god.
Can you imagine playing catch with Springsteen,, Steven Van Zandt and the others? Cognitive dissonance.

Joe Wilson. (none / 0) (#83)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 07:01:47 PM EST

I'm painting (none / 0) (#93)
by Militarytracy on Sun Oct 11, 2009 at 07:12:10 AM EST

What has Joe Wilson done now? I'm going to have to do the google.


: 2.7 million dollars for being (5.00 / 1) (#94)
by Militarytracy on Sun Oct 11, 2009 at 07:17:57 AM EST

a heckler. Timing is everything when you hope to fleece slightly deluded people. Most of the Republicans at that speech were borderline shameful in my opinion. He just distinguished himself.

Dylan in Berkeley today (none / 0) (#52)
by domer5000 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 01:19:31 PM EST

TL sidebar briefly displayed Tester (none / 0) (#23)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:28:08 AM EST

support public option. But the sidebar disappeared.

From what I read (none / 0) (#39)
by MO Blue on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:55:59 AM EST

Tester supports a public option with negotiated rates.


Does that surprise you? Isn't he one of (none / 0) (#41)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:58:30 AM EST

the bluest of the Blue Dogs?


: He is pretty conservative (none / 0) (#49)
by MO Blue on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 01:03:35 PM EST

His one redeeming quality is that he has in the past kept his campaign promise of voting against FISA. Don't know he is doing on the current Patriot extension.

A polical game, hike ten trillion in profiteering (none / 0) (#29)
by joze46 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:40:54 AM EST

In Iraq during 2005, 06, 07, MSNBC is currently talking about the war as being very dangerous and the country was in civil war. This is now on MSNBC this afternoon. All while Bush and Company at that time declaring success and America wining the war. When actually Iraq was and is nothing more than a cash cow of profiteering with wide open corruption. MSNBC was embedded in this war reporting a key player in covering up.

All this time, for me remembering Bush and company and the media calling it ridiculous to the notion of a civil war in Iraq. Iraq was reported as not having a civil war at that time. It was a total lie and now MSNBC is telecasting this difference. Not only as a difference but after the civil war our solders are accepted more, now. I don't think this is true. If it was our troops should rotated out immediately. No debate about that...

For me, this is again a total lie Iraq is loaded with same kind of corruption that has permeated in Afghanistan and total defiance of American's being there. This kind contradiction is massive bias balanced as nothing more than a smoothie sense in supporting the cover up of the massive republican bungle that they are key player of.

Here is my point, and dealing in a total reset in Americas policy. Immediately Obama makes a complete new plan for any war that is initiated by any president he must have an energy plan that involves the "whole country". In a time of war we finally see its nonsense for a small percent of the population of volunteers to go into arms way plus suffer personal stress and grief only to be hailed as heroic and patriotic while filing for divorce and bankruptcy or committing suicide plus having mental disorders while not being able to find a job. All a present of the Wahabbi Bush friendship. American media digs into the deep past of Clinton and Michelle Obama's slavery connections but nothing about Bush family their past connection to Bin laden family the richest in the world in the most huge contradiction in Presidential personal friendship so tightly connected to favors and war. Some call it treason.

With an energy mandate in war time you will see how fast Americans will stay in a war. Not long. An energy plan that mandates fuel rationing personal and industrial. America you will see the concept of war policy change real fast. Which needs to be done? America it is insane to buy sixty percent of our energy needs from the very friends, the Bin Laden's, very close friends of the Bush family. The Bin laded the primer financers of their so Osama Bin laden family master mind of the war.

But MSNBC goes on every sunday about social domestic stories very polished crazy stuff, wahhabi perfect tails of an American prison system that does not work along with a justice system that is luny. The polite perfect sunday wedge for christian devisiveness propaganda.

: He had an energy plan... (none / 0) (#58)
by jimakaPPJ on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 03:11:36 PM EST

Keep your tires inflated correctly....

: And it would require Congress on fuel (none / 0) (#59)
by jimakaPPJ on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 03:13:33 PM EST

rationing,
You really think he could do that?

Last game I watched was (none / 0) (#34)
by SOS on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:50:27 AM EST

the #1 Miami Hurricanes versus #2 Penn State 1987 Fiesta Bowl. Never watched another football game since then.

: I was 34 (none / 0) (#35)
by SOS on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:52:18 AM EST

then after that upset I just thought, I'm getting to old for this crap. LOL

: You don't need to (none / 0) (#36)
by rdandrea on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:52:37 AM EST

That was a great game.

Let me know if Michigan wins. Off to (none / 0) (#38)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:55:43 AM EST

Tosca HD.

Can't wait to hear if you (none / 0) (#42)
by Maryb2004 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:58:35 AM EST

agree with some critics that Karita Matilla was miscast.


: She is the reason I'm going to the HD. (none / 0) (#43)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:59:49 AM EST

One of my favorite singing actresses.

: Mattila was wonderful as Tosca. Much, (none / 0) (#68)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:25:01 PM EST

much more believable than Voigt, who sings the role at Chicago Lyric this year. Georgian baritone George Gagnidze was very effective as Scarpia. I liked the sets, ignored the prostitutes in second act, didn't miss either Tosca not setting the candles beside the dead Scarpia's outstretched hands nor her not actually leaping from the Castel. No boos at the HD showing I attended and, in fact, no buzz.

For those wanting to add (none / 0) (#46)
by CoralGables on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 12:07:19 PM EST

games to the baseball playoffs.

Colorado Rockies/Philadelphia Phillies game postponed today. It's 23 in Denver.

BTD (none / 0) (#47)
by jharp on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 12:15:14 PM EST

First, 60% is very impressive. Very.

And no way does Tebow play.

And re: Ohio State/Wisconsin We used to call them suck bets or the oddsmakers know something we don't. Yes it's hard to believe it's a 16 point spread so what I always did was go the other way.

It doesn't always work but I won more than I lost.

I'm taking Ohio.

"Miami of"? Or Athens? (none / 0) (#48)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 12:22:28 PM EST

Ohio State 31 Wisconsin 13 (none / 0) (#73)
by sallywally on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 05:44:37 PM EST

1:31 left to play in the game.


: That would be an 18 point spread.... (none / 0) (#74)
by sallywally on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 05:46:10 PM EST

I predict (none / 0) (#51)
by domer5000 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 01:12:44 PM EST

Cal's losing streak will not continue today

Snow postpones Game 3 of Rockies-Phils (none / 0) (#53)
by Manuel on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 01:45:28 PM EST

Maybe the baseball playoffs and WS should be held at a climate appropriate site like the Superbowl.

Yeah, that's a great idea (none / 0) (#55)
by rdandrea on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 02:32:39 PM EST

Scr*w the hometown fans and do it all for TV.


: It's all done for TV anyway (none / 0) (#85)
by Manuel on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 09:56:45 PM EST

Else there would not be any night games.

I'm watching Kentucy/S. Carolina (none / 0) (#56)
by otherlisa on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 02:42:02 PM EST

A fun game!

Next I will tune to UCLA/Oregon...

At last at last (none / 0) (#57)
by jimakaPPJ on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 03:09:52 PM EST

UT 45, GA 19...

A coach finally let Crompton do what he was recruited to do... throw on the run!

LOL, I can agree with you on something! (5.00 / 1) (#71)
by Teresa on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:57:28 PM EST

Throw it to the guys in orange and we'd be 5-1 right now, 4-2 at the worst. Maybe his parents will quit fighting with fans now (not saying the fans didn't deserve it).

Fun wasn't it?


: You are a lurker! (5.00 / 1) (#72)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 05:09:40 PM EST

: This goes all the way back to last year (5.00 / 2) (#78)
by jimakaPPJ on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 06:10:15 PM EST

at UCLA where he was kept in the pocket and was just destroyed. And that followed.....
Coaches are not always the brightest bulbs on the tree.

Oregon-UCLA at zip all (none / 0) (#60)
by caseyOR on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 03:20:33 PM EST

in 2nd quarter. Ducks' QB Masoli is out with a knee injury giving QB Nate Costa his first start after missing all of last season with a , that's right. . . a knee injury.

We've been hatin' on Rick Neuheisal since his days coaching at Colorado. We hated him at Washington, and we really hate him at UCLA. Oh sure, Ducks and Huskies have a big rivalry. But we really hate Neuheisal.

Go, Ducks!!

3-zip (none / 0) (#62)
by otherlisa on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 03:57:11 PM EST

Good game!


7-3 Ducks (n/t) (none / 0) (#64)
by caseyOR on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:16:22 PM EST

Ducks score again (none / 0) (#67)
by caseyOR on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:21:47 PM EST

After scoring zero points in the first half, the Ducks score 2 TDs in the first 26 seconds of the second half. Second TD comes on an interception and runback for the score.

Go, Ducks!


Er well (none / 0) (#69)
by otherlisa on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:40:36 PM EST

it was a good game. No fun if they aren't close.


And for whom are you rooting.? (none / 0) (#70)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:47:11 PM EST

Dodgers and/or Angels.


: Very tough call... (none / 0) (#75)
by otherlisa on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 05:51:24 PM EST

I can't stand the Rockies (for obvious reasons). I've always hated the Dodgers. But...I actually finally did buy my first ever Dodgers cap. This came about because I went to a Dodgers game wearing my favorite retro Padres hat (brown and gold, you know) and I actually met a very high up Dodger person (long story) who ragged on me about it (the Padres weren't even playing) and he was really funny and so I promised I would get one. So I did.
I actually have a soft spot in my heart for the Angels -- they are easy for me to root for on the AL side...I just don't like the AL in general, because the DH is a perversion of baseball...

Ducks and Beavers both win (none / 0) (#84)
by caseyOR on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 09:55:32 PM EST

The Oregon win over UCLA, combined with the Oregon State win over Stanford, puts the Ducks at the top of the Pac-10. Now they just have to get through Washington, a team revitalized by new coach Sarkisian, and then play USC at Autzen.

I think they can do it. Go, Ducks.


Tebow update (none / 0) (#63)
by CoralGables on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:05:13 PM EST

Tebow medically cleared to play. Lois Lane to propose at halftime.

: ESPN radio guy says, what's the report (none / 0) (#66)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:20:00 PM EST

on Tebow. Other guys says: he's awake.

: Tebow/ Superman (none / 0) (#77)
by GGINPB on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 06:06:41 PM EST

So funny.

AP sidebar on TL: HCR benefits (none / 0) (#76)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 06:02:09 PM EST

won't kick in for three years!!!

Dodgers up 4 to zip over Cards, (none / 0) (#79)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 06:18:06 PM EST

top of 6th.

Gators! (none / 0) (#86)
by GGINPB on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:32:19 PM EST

Not their best offensive effort but great defense! So much for that almost impossible Death Valley- at-night thing BTD. And they covered!

But the ESPN guy--Kelly?-- sd. was (none / 0) (#88)
by oculus on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:27:58 PM EST

that a Heisman effort by Tebow. Guy can't win, can he.


: LSU (none / 0) (#90)
by CoralGables on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:36:42 PM EST

had won 32 straight Saturday night games in Death Valley. A win on the road there is a great win even if you do nothing but run the ball up the middle the entire game. It was a boring game to watch but a win is a win for the still undefeated Gators.

OSU/Wisconsin (none / 0) (#87)
by jharp on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:51:36 PM EST

BTD is an excellent handicapper. No one, I repeat no one, can hit 60%.

Try it.

: Don't get too excited today (none / 0) (#89)
by CoralGables on Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 11:33:47 PM EST

this was his worst college day of the season. Looks like he'll be 1-4 on the day barring a huge turnaround in the last few minutes by FSU.

: No doubt true, but OSU beat Wisconsin (none / 0) (#96)
by sallywally on Sun Oct 11, 2009 at 10:35:31 AM EST

31-13, so not quite "on" for that game. However, I expected OSU to lose too. I couldn't watch the first three quarters, spent more time in the garden, and didn't believe in the win until there were about 2 minutes left in the game.

Where's MileHi? (none / 0) (#91)
by caseyOR on Sun Oct 11, 2009 at 12:14:23 AM EST

Iowa defeats Michigan.

And Illinois, of course, loses.