Sooners Talkin' Smack

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Posted on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 06:23:06 PM EST
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The Sooners bring the smack talk:

Oklahoma sophomore cornerback Dominique Franks said that [Florida QB Tim] Tebow would have been no better than the fourth-best quarterback in the Big 12 this season. [He also said] "[t]he three best receivers in the country came from the Big 12. The three best tight ends came from the Big 12. So we've faced some great offenses, and a lot of people don't understand that other conferences don't have what we face."

Perhaps Mr. Franks will get to face Percy Harvin, apparently chopped liver in Mr. Franks' eyes. Perhaps Mr. Franks will get to face Aaron Hernandez, who Mr. Franks judges can be easily stopped. As for Tebow, well, people have talked smack to him before, with bad results for the smack talker, Florida won 45-12. Mr Franks, let me introduce you to Geno Hayes.

This is getting fun. Go Gators!

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Was going to reply (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by CoralGables on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 06:55:00 PM EST

to a comment about Gator arrogance on another thread, but this is a far better place.

It's not just the last few years that Gator fans were perceived as being arrogant. I was considered an arrogant Gator Fan in the 70's and we didn't win our 1st official SEC Title until the 90's.

The perceived arrogance is more in the eye of the beholder. It's Gator hatred from the non-Gator more so than arrogance on the part of the Gator fan because of something the non-Gator has a hard time understanding. Win or lose Gators fill the stands, and year after year have the single greatest pep rally in the world at Gator Growl... and the reason is... even when you are sitting in Row 90 on the East side during an 0-10-1 season, win or lose, it's great to be a Florida Gator.

Dominique Franks should pray Tebow runs, that way he won't have to watch Gator receivers blow by him on the way to the end zone.

Having made the "arrogant" comment (none / 0) (#23)
by ericinatl on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:38:06 AM EST

I will admit that Miami fans were the worst of the worst when they were winning. Of course you do not hear much from them lately.

Still, no one likes a team (and its fans) that wins a bit too much. I'm a New England Patriots fan, so I know of what I speak.

I note that no one addressed the evangelical conservatism of Tebow I raised in my other post, though. It's hard to root for a guy who came out during the election saying he would only vote for some who was pro-life.


eric, I've learned that I have to separate (5.00 / 2) (#30)
by Teresa on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 01:46:00 PM EST

my sports heroes from my politics. I'm a huge Peyton fan and he donated the max to George Bush. His parents did, too. That took me a while to get over.

The thing about Tebow (and I'm a Vol and SEC fan, not a Gator) is that he puts his actions where his words are and I can respect that. It's the ones who say one thing and live another way that I can't deal with.


Putting your actions to the service (none / 0) (#33)
by sallywally on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 04:20:46 PM EST

of profoundly toxic beliefs isn't a source of honor, in my view. Especially when one is in a position to be influential.


: Everything a missionary does isn't (5.00 / 2) (#37)
by Teresa on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:24:52 PM EST

toxic sally. I have a friend who goes on mission trips all the time. She helps the poor and she goes on one every year where she helps disabled children ride horses. How can that be toxic?
She is very religious but never preaches to me. She is for every social welfare program that I am for (but against abortion). I have to take the good with the bad and I respect her because she does more to help real people than I ever have.

Chris Low, who wrote that article, lives in (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by Teresa on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 07:54:10 PM EST

Knoxville and he's on a local Vol sports show on Sunday nights. He talked about that interview. He couldn't believe the guy was foolish enough to basically challenge Tebow.

As he said, that's never worked too well in the past. Tebow needs no motivation to begin with but I'll bet he can't wait to run into this guy. Literally.

Not Arrogant But Boastful Gator (5.00 / 1) (#27)
by damitajo1 on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 11:03:13 AM EST

We aren't arrogant....we're just celebrating an abundance of riches lately. A lot of Gators have respect for other teams. I am in fact very happy that we are playing Oklahoma. They are a classy team with a classy coach. It's unfortunate that the QB said those things. But we will see on the field!

: Not the QB---CB. (none / 0) (#29)
by oculus on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 11:14:55 AM EST

lol, Tebow's response to Franks (5.00 / 1) (#38)
by Teresa on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:45:17 PM EST

When the subject came up again, Tebow responded, "I'm thankful for being fourth. There's a lot of good quarterbacks in the Big 12."

: Perfect. (5.00 / 1) (#39)
by oculus on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:48:42 PM EST

Yes, that must be it... (none / 0) (#2)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 07:39:08 PM EST

...cause no other college football experience is like that.

/rolls eyes

Heh (none / 0) (#3)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 07:43:10 PM EST

Damned arrogant Iowa Hawkeyes.


Now, don't make me... (none / 0) (#4)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 07:49:26 PM EST

...bring up '04.


I was there (none / 0) (#8)
by CoralGables on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 08:19:39 PM EST

in '04

In fact, I still have an Hawkeye Outback Bowl t-shirt. You guys rocked us.


I meant to tell you this yesterday... (none / 0) (#9)
by Teresa on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 08:29:22 PM EST

I got a big kick out of your daughter's summary of the game! That's thinking positively. Cute.


: Those are kid's lines (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by CoralGables on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 08:38:28 PM EST

you never forget. She wanted to be honest and yet still attempt to boost my spirits.
I would have taken offense with her evaluation of Iowa being better at everything that day, but she was so right there was nothing for me to debate.

Well, you never heard of a (none / 0) (#13)
by oculus on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 09:09:31 PM EST

Hawkeye or Wolverine Chomp did you? (That's a good thing.)


Actually, the Hawkeye student (none / 0) (#16)
by JThomas on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 10:18:25 PM EST

body has a Hawk's snap that resembles the gator chomp with a downward tilt to the upper hand on the top arm of the beak's chomp. I believe the gator deal came later after being observed at an Iowa game in the mid-50's.

Up north we do not have much contact with gator fans,but we recognize the symptoms..Buckeye fever is the local version.

But there are a lot of good qbs in the Big 12. Saw that in a projected draft that Bradford was 1st, but someone named Josh Freeman from Kansas St. was like 12th..ahead of stafford of ga. and tebow. Then their is McCoy,Harrell,Robinson, and Daniels. That is QB-sick.


Never, ever... (none / 0) (#19)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 09:13:31 AM EST

...saw or participated in any "Hawkeye snapping" in my days as part of the Student Body. Perhaps I was "enjoying" myself too much on the old grassy end-zone at Kinnick.

You're spot-on about the OSU fans though...


Hey 'Hawk, this Jayhawk is curious about the (none / 0) (#20)
by easilydistracted on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:09:02 AM EST

intra-state rivalry, if any, between the Cyclones and Hawkeyes. Just how instense is it? One doesn't usually hear much of if (unlike the KU KSU thing). Is it because of different conferences?


Well... (none / 0) (#21)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:15:43 AM EST

...it is a little different for us with the teams being in different conferences. But, it is just as heated as any other in-state rivalry.

We don't like the Cyclones at all that one week a year and it is considered a bad year if we lose to them. Lots of trash talking and hard feelings--depending on which side of the outcome you are on.

It's fun for me because both of my siblings are Iowa Stater's and I do so enjoy giving them a hard time!


Damn...just one week out of the year (none / 0) (#22)
by easilydistracted on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:22:51 AM EST

that you don't like the Cyclones?? You guys are soft! We hate the mildcats every damned day of the year, cept for the day they play Quantrails'thugs from Columbia.


Still haven't forgiven... (none / 0) (#24)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:38:40 AM EST

...the Raider's for sacking Lawrence, eh? Just watched a movie about that, but can't for the life of me remember what it was called.

There's certainly no love lost the rest of year, but since we're all Iowans at heart, it's hard to root against them when they're not playing us. Especially when they play the Cornshuckers or the Buffalo's.


Never will forgive em, either. (none / 0) (#25)
by easilydistracted on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:58:48 AM EST

Hell, I couldn't gradutate until I signed an oath.

Speakin of the Huskers, I saw them in their bowl victory the other night. Unfortuntately, I'd say they are on their way back wouldn't you?


: Oops, "graduate" (none / 0) (#26)
by easilydistracted on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:59:50 AM EST

Someone's gonna have fun with that slip.

: Yeah, they're definately on the upswing... (none / 0) (#28)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 11:09:36 AM EST

...under Bo Pelini. But, seeing how he was an assistant coach under Hayden Fry, like so many other successful head coaches, that was to be expected.

Yes, Buckeyes are there in good and bad (none / 0) (#34)
by sallywally on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 04:22:58 PM EST

times for their teams. And are very nervous about tonight.


: As a (5.00 / 1) (#36)
by JThomas on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 05:28:07 PM EST

Big Ten fan desperate for a little respect for Big Ten football beyond Iowa...I am rooting hard for the Buckeyes tonite.
I have a sneaking suspicion that they will find a way to squeak this out in a high scoring affair. Go Beanie and TP.

Dominique Harris (none / 0) (#6)
by Dalton Hoffine on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 08:07:21 PM EST

Is going to get run over by Tebow and the entire Florida receiver corps. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tebow challenge him early. Chase Daniel and Colt McCoy are not better QBs than Tebow by a sizable distance. Bradford and Harrell are, I think, but he's got another thing coming to him if he thinks Tebow is a pansy. Tebow's faced a few better defenses than Oklahoma's this year too, including in their last game against Alabama.

Florida is going to win this one close, I think. Something like... 34-25.

Also, HOORAY for BC knocking off UNC tonight. Now next week, maybe Wake can make it two losses.

: Dominique Franks* (none / 0) (#7)
by Dalton Hoffine on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 08:07:40 PM EST

My FUBAR

This is all irrelevant now that Utah is #1 ... (none / 0) (#10)
by cymro on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 08:32:02 PM EST

... as the only undefeated team.

Didn't know Tebow considered (none / 0) (#12)
by oculus on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 09:07:59 PM EST

U of M:

Tebow took a long look at Michigan in 2005 during his high school recruitment because of Loeffler.
"He's a very good guy, a very good recruiter, a very good quarterback coach as far as fundamentals and work ethic and character," Tebow said Sunday morning during a news conference for the BCS Championship Game.
"That's why I looked at Michigan so hard."

College football sucks (none / 0) (#14)
by Dadler on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 09:28:33 PM EST

Until they have real playoffs it's ultimately an exhibition sport. No such thing as a real champion. Bah-humbug.

Now college hoops, that's a whole other story.

If anyone wants (none / 0) (#15)
by CoralGables on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 09:43:17 PM EST

to talk Conference smack I believe these are the Bowl records with three games yet to played.

Pac 10 5-0
SEC 5-2
Big East 4-2
Big 12 3-2
USA 3-2
MWC 3-3
Sunbelt 1-1
Indies 1-1
ACC 4-6
WAC 1-4
Big 10 1-5
MAC 0-3

: No wonder USC is so adamant (none / 0) (#17)
by oculus on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 11:35:37 PM EST

it should be playing Jan. 8.

Another Franks quote from the same (none / 0) (#18)
by Teresa on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 12:48:49 AM EST

meeting with reporters...

"Yup. I think our quarterbacks are better," Franks said. "Just the way they conduct themselves and how they play on the field. I just think, playing against those guys, it's a lot harder to prepare for those guys than it is for Tebow."

This could be a fun game. :)

I'm not sure what he means by conduct. Tebow, whether you like the Gators or not, is a first class guy.

Most Inspirational figure (5.00 / 1) (#31)
by Amiss on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 03:41:41 PM EST

It is not just "on the field conduct" that makes Tebow the person he is, regardless of his political persuasion. Young children have sports heros whether we want them to or not, at least Tebow is the kind of person that epitomizes what a true hero is.

University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, whose remarkable humanitarian efforts have captivated college football fans nationwide, has been chosen for the Disney Spirit Award given annually to college football's most inspirational figure.

"I would like to accept this award on behalf of those who inspire me and give the credit to my Lord, my family, my coaches and my teammates at the University of Florida," said Tebow. "I've always been very passionate about football, but it is not going to be my life's work forever and I'd like to think that I am not defined by it. To be recognized by Disney Sports for the way I try to use my platform to spread my message about faith and to join the list of recipients of this award is a blessing and it is very, very humbling."
Despite juggling the extraordinary demands of being one of the marquee players in college football, Tebow has spent countless hours preaching and providing support to less fortunate people, capitalizing on virtually every opportunity to touch the lives of others. This past year during his three extended breaks from school and football, he went on mission trips to Croatia, Thailand and the Philippines.

During which, no doubt, he tried to (none / 0) (#32)
by sallywally on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 04:16:30 PM EST

convert all the locals to his particular brand of Christianity, rather than learn about their beliefs.

My cousin's wife does missionary trips to Russia and India and has no interest in their beliefs, except to "cure" them of such "odious" ideas.

She considers Russian Orthodox believers to be non-Christian, which I think might be true via a technicality, but her brain doesn't grasp technicalities, so she doesn't mean it that way.

Sorry, but the missionary thing irritates me no end. I can't help but think that in this day and age anyone with a competent or minimally curious brain would be unable to partake in that activity. I get embarrassed on their behalf.

Grrr......


: His visits to prisons (5.00 / 2) (#35)
by Amiss on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 04:34:31 PM EST

and pediatric wards are all done without a selfish thought, I guess that means nothing to you either. Just because the boy is religious does NOT mean that every word out of his mouth is about religion.
At least he has a life off the field as well as on the field and football is not his only life as with many college and professional sports icons.
Perhaps instead of being so hellbent on tearing him down at every turn, you might try to find something good in what he has done with his young life.