Sunday Talk Open Thread

The talk, I predict, will be of Obama's inauguration.

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    Doris Kearns Goodwin on MTP (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by ericinatl on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 09:31:31 AM EST
    Ugh.  I'm so tired of her starry-eyed recountings of JFK and her Obama as Lincoln/Team of Rivals meme.  

    Correct. (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by AX10 on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 02:49:41 PM EST
    Obama needs to chart his own course.
    One of the things I have never liked about Obama was/is his tendency to relive lives of other Presidents (i.e Lincoln and JFK).
    Obama's success will depend on his ability to rise to deal with the crisis we have during these times, not to emulate the actions of past Presidents.
    Each President had to deal with specific problems that were for the most part unique for their respective times.

    The train ride to D.C. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Cream City on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 08:43:10 PM EST
    keeps freeking me out, and perhaps others who know that Lincoln took no such public tour across the country.  For reasons of security, Lincoln came into the capital almost incognito, very low-key.

    And, of course, Lincoln was an interestingly irreligious man in many ways, so his use of the Bible for his oath was far more ceremonial than what a Bible would mean to the very religious Obama.

    Examples of the emulation that fall short for those who know Lincolniana -- as a lot of people do.  But not most people, nor the media, who enjoy all these allusions to history that are actually ahistorical.

    But if Obama can truly live up to Lincoln and find some more Americans to free (they're all gone from Guantanamo now, aren't they?), that's fine with me. :-)  As long as they don't have to swear on a Bible -- or a Koran or whatever -- to do so.


    I agree (none / 0) (#5)
    by jbindc on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 09:56:59 AM EST
    Obama is no Lincoln.  

    Why don't people understand that when you hold yourself up to an icon (or hold yourself out as an icon), all you can do is pale in comparison? From what I remember learning, Kennedy and Johnson hated each other, and I don't really think Nixon and Ford liked each other, and Reagan and Bush weren't exactly close.

    Obama will not save the union - why don't they just let him be himself, warts and all?


    Responsiblity (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by SOS on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 10:21:19 AM EST
    A top aide says Barack Obama's inauguration address will call on Americans to embrace a new era of responsible behavior -- in government and in business.

    What about the commoners?

    What - no football? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Fabian on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 08:22:35 AM EST
    Is there a support group for post season withdrawal?

    Nebraska... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by weltec2 on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 08:52:04 AM EST
    Don't talk to me about football... not yet. We're coming back. Oh yes, we're coming back. Put Florida on notice. We're not back to Tom Osborne level Cornhusker ball yet, but we'll be there. You can count on it.

    As much as I am enjoy... (none / 0) (#15)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 19, 2009 at 12:18:29 PM EST
    ...taking the Cornshuckers down a notch or two, you have to give them some credit for scheduling Virginia Tech on the road next year.  

    But you're spot-on otherwise.  I mean Florida Atlantic and Arkansas State at home?  C'mon.  Sure it's a bundle of cash for the visitors, but doesn't do much for elevating the program's status.

    Sometimes I think Big Red fans still harbor this fantasy that Tom Osborne is going to come riding into Lincoln on his white horse and save the program.    


    Nebraska (none / 0) (#17)
    by weltec2 on Mon Jan 19, 2009 at 05:39:32 PM EST
    should never have lost to Virginia Tech this year.
    30 to 35... that was the most frustrating game...
    I think they just want a chance to vindicate themselves... try to get back some of those turnovers.

    Nebraska (none / 0) (#16)
    by weltec2 on Mon Jan 19, 2009 at 05:21:38 PM EST
    defeated Kansas this year, 45-35. We Lost to Virginia Tech, Missouri, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma. As long as Utah and Boise State continue to play the way they played this year, I have no problem with your suggestion.

    AFC Championship (none / 0) (#3)
    by jbindc on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 09:06:02 AM EST
    Should be a terrific game tonight. Can't wait to watch Pittsburgh beat Baltimore for the third time this season!

    Well, jb, there is no doubt that the (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Anne on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 10:13:52 AM EST
    AFC Championship might just be the "real" Super Bowl, but as a diehard Ravens fan, I'm hoping for a different outcome than the one you're waiting for.

    Still cannot believe the afternoon game is being played in the sun, in Arizona, and Ravens-Steelers will be played in the dark and in the snow on a frozen field with a concrete football.

    It's gonne be ugly, but as we say here, "Third Time's the Charm!"


    Don't get all in a huff, Donald - (none / 0) (#14)
    by Anne on Mon Jan 19, 2009 at 06:56:41 AM EST
    the media's been hyping Ravens-Steelers like it was the Super Bowl.

    Anyway, Philly choked - again - Baltimore's 18 straight weeks of football finally caught up to them, and we lost; the parting gift to McGahee was just so Steelers.  

    Just one reason why I'll be rooting for Arizona to beat the cr@p out of Pittsburgh in Tampa.

    And no, I am not in a good mood this morning. :(


    What a long strange trip (none / 0) (#8)
    by SOS on Sun Jan 18, 2009 at 10:38:30 AM EST
    it is.