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By Jeralyn, Section Media
Posted on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:06:31 PM EST
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Sending good thoughts to those in the path of Hurricane Gustav. New Orleans has been evacuated.

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    I am just a dreamer, but you are just a dream. (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Southsider on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:07:41 PM EST


    Great selection. (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by DemForever on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:20:50 PM EST
    But is it Gustav or Sarah?

    Same thought here as well (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:29:56 PM EST
    they are both hurricanes.

    My first thought was to post "A Man Needs a Maid" in reference to Palin's house cleaning of employees as Mayor, but readers are so touchy they would claim it was sexist, even though it would be equally applicable to a male candidate.

    So I decided on the Hurricane song, continuing from last night's pick of Dylan's Hurricane.

    It also invokes the image of split screens of media coverage at the RNC, one of the convention and one of the hurricane. Dual hurricanes.

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    The last split screen like that I remember (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:37:22 PM EST
    was of an OJ Verdict and one of Bill Clinton's SOTUs.

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    I was going to post the same thing! I think they (none / 0) (#3)
    by Teresa on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:24:17 PM EST
    should skip over some letters and name the next one Sarah. Maybe her middle name is Hannah.

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    absolutely, all good thoughts (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by DandyTIger on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:29:32 PM EST
    out to those in the path, and fingers and toes crossed.

    hurricanetrack.com (none / 0) (#27)
    by Josey on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 05:00:11 AM EST
    good on the ground info too.


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    Songs for New Orleans (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by txpolitico67 on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:30:31 PM EST
    Laughter in the Rain:  Neil Sedaka
    Stormy Weather:  Billie Holliday
    Farewell to Storyville: Billie and Louie Armstrong
    Rain:  Madonna
    Here Comes The Rain:  Eurhytmics
    Bourbon Street:  Little River Band
    Dirty Martini:  Joe Jackson
    Lady Marmalade:  Patti Labelle/Labelle
    Oh My NOLA:  Harry Connick
    It Feels Like Rain:  Aaron Neville

    Time to start mixing cocktails.  I will toast those in the Gulf.  Hope they find safety and shelter wherever they arrive.

    My heart is with them, (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by SueBonnetSue on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 11:58:04 PM EST
    It must be so frightening to be facing this again.  How awful for all of them.  I'm praying Gustav heads out to sea and harms no one.  

    A tiny piece of good news (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by BrianJ on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 12:08:35 AM EST
    Gustav apparently weakened a bit over Cuba, just enough that the NHC does not think it will become Category 5 before landfall.

    During the Alabama-Clemson game, I heard the announcers advocate evacuating to Shreveport.  Bad idea;  Gustav's predicted to continue heading northwest after landfall, moving toward the Shreveport area, and will maintain hurricane strength for up to 24 hours after landfall.  My advice is to head northeast toward Monroe or Jackson, MS, or further north into Arkansas.

    Baton Rouge and Lafayette (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by CoralGables on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 01:10:57 AM EST
    appear to be in the line of fire this time more so than NOLA at least as of the 2am update. With those cities more inland and not below sea level, damage should be more on the line of an average strong hurricane and nothing near Katrina standards.

    On the downside, the dirty side is on the New Orleans side so one dip to the right and we may have an instant replay.

    If you know anyone in the Baton Rouge/Lafayette  area, expect them to lose power for several days, lose trees, and have a leaky roof. If they are in a mobile home, suggest they have their heads examined. Landlines (if underground wires) might work right thru the storm. Cell phones generally have far more problems (but text messaging sometimes keeps working) and also will go dead due to the lack of electricity.

    I just read the Reuters story... (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 01:48:16 AM EST
    Was floored by this:
    In all, 11.5 million people are in the path of Gustav, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

    Also India is in a state of total catastrophe; worse flooding in 50 years; 2 million people displaced.

    Climate Crisis and the Dem Primary Debates (5.00 / 3) (#22)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 01:57:22 AM EST
    I don't recall any questions being asked about the climate crisis during the debates (perhaps because so many were sponsored by so-called 'clean' coal).

    Does anybody else recollect?

    Global warming's effect on ... (5.00 / 4) (#24)
    by Robot Porter on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 03:11:14 AM EST
    the severity of hurricanes is debated, but there is a lot of evidence to support it.  Conclusive evidence probably won't come until it's too late, because we simply need more decades of data.

    But what's not debated is that coastal erosion and the loss of wetlands increased the severity of Katrina's impact on New Orleans.

    And these factors were exacerbated by human activity, largely the creation of canals and pipelines, and other industrial factors.

     

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    Climate Change and hurricanes. (5.00 / 4) (#26)
    by Fabian on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 04:53:51 AM EST
    Hurricanes are heat engines.  Heat fuels them, makes them form more readily, makes them stronger.

    The standard prediction re: Climate Change for hurricanes is a greater chance for more storms and stronger storms.

    How many more?
    How much stronger?

    Those are questions that only decades of research can provide.  Insurance companies are already pulling out of coastal areas.  I've read a lot of outrage about insurance companies raising premiums or dropping policies.  The insurance companies aren't deliberately targeting consumers, but are saving their financial posteriors.  

    As money and economic activity leaves a region, so do people and investment.  It's a more gradual, less painful way to create migration than a natural disaster.

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    Lyle, you are peddlling the worse kind of (none / 0) (#32)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 12:02:57 PM EST
    DISINFORMATION, and that is putting it kindly. Please spare us these obscene GOP talking points.

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    Did you see this? (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by cmugirl on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 06:44:58 AM EST
    Don Fowler, former chair of the DNC is on a plane after the convention, laughing that Gustav may hit right when the Republican convention is going on and says it proves that "God is on our side".

    Link

    Nice.

    Bipartisan boorishness. (none / 0) (#31)
    by Fabian on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 08:01:42 AM EST
    How wonderful.

    I wonder if there was a Democratic Survivor show, who would be voted off first and last.  

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    Won't Monday be too late? (none / 0) (#10)
    by nycstray on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 12:07:48 AM EST
    Or is the storm expected to drop power after landfall?

    Oh man (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by nycstray on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 12:38:37 AM EST
    that doesn't sound good. I had heard some brief evac newsbriefs and it sounded pretty bad. I can't imagine the city or any of the Katrina areas flooding again. From the footage I've seen all day today, they were moving them out and there were long lines of people leaving by bus and train, thank G-d. I haven't dealt with a Hurricane before (I only do CA and NY disasters) and I can't imagine going through one much less 2. Hopefully all the areas with be ghost towns by tomorrow night.

    Thanks for the info and sending good thoughts for your friends and their homes.

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    The last I heard (none / 0) (#28)
    by Grace on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 05:51:16 AM EST
    (just a few minutes ago) it's been downgraded to a Category 3.  

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    Reported last night (none / 0) (#29)
    by magisterludi on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 06:29:24 AM EST
    on Memphis channels that Shell stations were out of gas in NOLA.

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    Something cheery, courtesy of YouTube (30 secs) (none / 0) (#15)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 01:04:46 AM EST
    Nearly 21 million people have viewed this. Sorry if you've already seen it; for others, hope you enjoy.

    The NOLA Mayor is calling Gustav (none / 0) (#18)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 01:12:37 AM EST
    the storm of the century.

    Commenters (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Fabian on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 04:42:48 AM EST
    have said that Katrina changed Nagin, and PTSD is strongly suspected.   I'm not one to psychoanalyze over the net, but PTSD is common enough in Katrina survivors so it's not a stretch.

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