Still Waiting, Still Bored . . . Open Thread

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Blog Related
Posted on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:27:21 PM EST
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Will you roll Biden out already? Sheesh.

This is an Open Thread.

On CNN, a video clip is played of Hillary being asked who Obama should pick, her answer "I'm not in that arena." Then she was asked about whether she is doing enough for Obama. She said "I've done more than anyone who has ever been in my position." Hillary is out.

The pick (Joe Biden) has been told says Gloria Borger.

So the VP announcement is now officially a Friday night news dump.

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Still Waiting, Still Bored . . . Open Thread | 206 comments (206 topical)

Until I find out its not the Blob..... (5.00 / 3) (#2)
by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:30:59 PM EST

...I will continue to hope.

Yep (5.00 / 4) (#9)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:33:49 PM EST

Inkblot/Blob 2008.

It's a likely combination, don't you think?

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I last saw (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by chrisvee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:34:37 PM EST

the Blob at the annual Blob run in July. Since then, it's been a media blackout. It's the One.

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MG: Beware of the blob, it creeps (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:35:46 PM EST

and leaps and glides and slides across the floor, and all around the wall, a splotch, a blotch, beware of the blob....lol

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They said the same thing (none / 0) (#18)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:36:56 PM EST

about Bush.

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T In Snow....I liken bush to jock itch.... (none / 0) (#26)
by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:40:14 PM EST

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: Except that (5.00 / 1) (#38)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:42:12 PM EST

fungus is evolutionarily a whole lot closer to human than Bush is.

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The Blob (5.00 / 1) (#73)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:54:12 PM EST

Issues Non Denial Denial.

"Im not your guy" say The Blob as he quickly got into his SUV and drove away.

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glad to know that (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by Jlvngstn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:31:45 PM EST

Obama is now responsible for the bored citizens of america as well. I say we start a petition. Let's get a drive going that stipulates that his decisions are made in time for us to blog on them moving forward. After all, we lost a whole friday waiting on him. This is soooo like prom night.

Well (5.00 / 2) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:32:32 PM EST

This is an Open thread. No need to wait on me.

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you throwing up again? (none / 0) (#40)
by Jlvngstn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:43:09 PM EST

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: i was wondering why (none / 0) (#60)
by Jlvngstn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:49:13 PM EST

he performed so sloppily in those debates, you are throwing him up.

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if he is going to be rolling (5.00 / 14) (#6)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:32:37 PM EST

him out maybe it Richardson

Rimshot (5.00 / 6) (#7)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:33:02 PM EST

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. . . which relates to the (5.00 / 2) (#11)
by Landulph on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:34:24 PM EST

previous "Blob" speculations, as well!

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: Yeah, (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:36:25 PM EST

that one is really, really close ;-)

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I have (5.00 / 10) (#29)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:40:37 PM EST

a conservative friend who was telling me yesterday that of all the Dems in the primaries, Richardson was the only one who impressed him as solid and competent.

I almost sputtered as I started telling stories about the time with Melissa Etheridge at the LBGT forum, and all those other great moments of buffoonery from Richardson. Pretty soon I had him agreeing that Richardson sucks just as bad as all the other Democrats, which isn't really where I wanted him to end up, but oh well.

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Did you tell him that Richardson thinks (5.00 / 2) (#63)
by SarahSpin on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:50:26 PM EST

that it's a good idea to pipe Great Lakes water down to his golf course state, which is overdeveloped and an environmental nightmare?

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That only ticked off 8 states (5.00 / 1) (#77)
by Cream City on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:54:54 PM EST

that border the Great Lakes. And Canada, but who cares?

I do thank Richardson for the stoooopid comment that may finally have helped to push my recalcitrant state to move forward on the Great Lakes Compact among us 8 states and Canada. Now signed, sealed, and delivered.

Of course, it could also be the incredible dropoff in Great Lakes levels, of which Richardson apparently was entirely unaware. Jeesh. Maybe he thought that all the new beaches here have been here all along. Or coming from his part of the country, he thinks all that sand is a sign of a good thing.

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How well I recall (5.00 / 2) (#103)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:04:18 PM EST

from my misspent youth in Michigan, that any politician who proposed to remove so much as a cup of water from the Great Lakes was electorally doomed. Ah, the power of local issues!

It's funny how much this primary changed my opinion of so many Democrats. Biden scored a lot of points with me. Richardson went way, way, way down. I think the worst was in the chaos after Bhutto's assassination, when he said we should immediately call on Musharraf to step down. It was then that I realized you can be a good diplomat without having any facility in setting foreign policy whatsoever.

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Of course, it's not a "local issue" (5.00 / 1) (#212)
by Cream City on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:57:14 PM EST

when it comes to the ecology of the Great Lakes, not only bordering 8 states but also another country . . . and even in this country, serving as a feeder for so many great rivers that are crucial to even more states.

The impact studies of the dropoffs in lake levels are starting to come in, and the impact is far and wide. For one thing, every foot of dropoff (and it is a couple now) can have massive impact on precipitation elsewhere -- and especially in those parts of the country that are desert ecologies but have attempted to look like the Midwest with their lawns that are not natural grasses in their lands.

It's always interesting to remember that the poor agricultural practices to the west of the mighty Mississippi, out there in the Plains states that stripped the natural grasses and topsoil from greed to turn into wheat factories, led to the Dust Bowl storms not that long ago. And some of that Plains dust carried far and wide, coating the Capitol and the Empire State Building on the East Coast. And causing health effects far and wide, too.

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I understand the reservations (none / 0) (#147)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:20:58 PM EST

about Biden but I still prefer him to Kaine.

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Kaine is a joke (5.00 / 1) (#163)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:26:08 PM EST

He brings nothing, and the GOP would have a field day replaying his sycophantic statements about Obama, as well they should.

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: They're (none / 0) (#173)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:30:00 PM EST

ALREADY having a field day with those statements. The new "The One" ad is, sorry to say, hysterical

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Hey, its a straight run.... (5.00 / 1) (#206)
by p lukasiak on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:55:25 PM EST

down from Oregon, so why not?

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heh (none / 0) (#48)
by andgarden on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:45:49 PM EST

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Andgarden, who is this Phil Berg (5.00 / 0) (#79)
by Cream City on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:56:16 PM EST

from Pennsylvania (last thread closed just as I asked), a Dem Party official suing about Obama's birth certificate? Yikes, the timing. But Berg's list of party credentials seems pretty long.

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I was going to mention that (5.00 / 0) (#83)
by cmugirl on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:59:13 PM EST

But I only found it on one sight today (I think quoting the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review) - All I saw was that he filed suit in federal court stating that Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be president.

Anybody else see this?

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It would default to Obama's VP pick (5.00 / 0) (#117)
by Eleanor A on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:10:34 PM EST

Which is why they're gonna make damn sure it's not HRC.

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check out (1.00 / 0) (#81)
by dissenter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:58:12 PM EST

Texasdarlin blog. It is all there

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Well, factcheck,org (5.00 / 1) (#196)
by MKS on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:47:59 PM EST

examined the original certified copy of the birth certificate.....It has a raised seal, and the stamp on the back--the reasons Texas Darling got in a tizzy over this in the first place......

It is just like the conspiracy theories the Right had about Vince Foster and Hillary....Very odd group.

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: Annenberg owns factcheck.org (none / 0) (#218)
by Cream City on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:03:17 PM EST

and guess who runs the Annenberg Foundation?
So it's like the Chinese officials certifying the Chinese gymnasts' birth certificates.

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Never heard of him (none / 0) (#89)
by andgarden on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:00:34 PM EST

Google searches suggest that he might have another life as a 9/11 truther.

I do not accept the premise of the lawsuit.

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If I really believed (none / 0) (#112)
by misspeach2008 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:07:51 PM EST

that Obama is not eligible to be president, then I would be eager to have Hillary in the VP slot. But I think that if he is not eligible, it would have been something Hillary would have leaked to someone with a lot of credibility.

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is it me (5.00 / 1) (#8)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:33:24 PM EST

or are the diehards getting a tad edgy?

: it's not just you (4.00 / 1) (#116)
by mary kate on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:09:53 PM EST

But no worries. No doubt their newfound sense of anxiety will be laid to rest just as soon as they learn that Joe Biden is "a vice-leader that God has blessed us with at this time."

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We'll remain bored until his campaign (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:34:09 PM EST

is satisfied with how many cell phone numbers they have managed to collect. Major Garrett announced this information this afternoon - he spoke to the campaign, and that's what they told him.

They claim that every day they delay increases how many people sign up with their cell phone information.

What happens if 1,728,000 text messages go out to disconnected or landline telephones at once? Will it jam the networks?

Maybe I should sign up after all (5.00 / 3) (#14)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:35:26 PM EST

so that when they call me to volunteer, I can say, "not only no, but eff-no!"

I had fun saying that to the Obama supporter caller the other day.

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My mom (5.00 / 13) (#32)
by chrisvee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:41:04 PM EST

received a fund-raising call from the DNC last night. She's in her 70s. The gentleman began by telling her how important it was to support Obama's goals. She let him go on until he asked for a contribution then she said to him, 'Give me a call back after the VP announcement. If it's Hillary, I'll gladly make a donation.' He sputtered a bit then continued to press for contributions for Senate and House races but every time he took a breath she said, 'You're not listening to me. If Hillary is the VP candidate, I'll be happy to donate. But I'm not making any contributions until I know who the VP nominee is.'

Ah, my mom. I love her. :-)

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I love her too (5.00 / 10) (#49)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:45:52 PM EST

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Me three! (5.00 / 4) (#80)
by cmugirl on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:56:48 PM EST

I got my first call the other night. The young woman gave me the spiel about how I need to help Obama and that he was the better candidate and I sweetly told her that both candidates scare me and I would not be giving any money. Then I channeled Deputy Chief Brenda Lee Johnson ("The Closer") and said "Thank yeeewwwww".

Bwwwaaaaahhhhhhaaaaa!

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: I love (5.00 / 2) (#92)
by misspeach2008 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:01:45 PM EST

"Just Plain Brenda", and they stole my parents, complete with Christmas- decorated RV, to be hers.

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It is rather fun (5.00 / 2) (#50)
by cawaltz on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:46:09 PM EST

when you get that pregnant rather uncomfortable pause while they grapple for something to say. I had the privilege when they called me for a donation right after a record fundraising month.

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Oh my (5.00 / 0) (#20)
by trublueCO on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:38:30 PM EST

The tubes are going to be overflowing. Ted Stevens is going to blow a gasket!

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Last night (none / 0) (#37)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:42:02 PM EST

I was making a call on my walk home, and I couldn't get through on the network for some reason. I was like, "oh no, I bet Obama sent the text message and jammed everyone up!"

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What if it jams the Toobz? (none / 0) (#41)
by scribe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:43:10 PM EST

That sounds kind of like "what happens if everyone in town flushes at the same time".

Answer: not much.

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Baffling. (5.00 / 2) (#13)
by Klio on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:35:19 PM EST

Why not just say outright "announcement tomorrow"? Why toy with people in this way? It makes no sense.

I have little love for the traditional media, but at this point, I'm feeling sorry for those crews standing around -- for days! -- on various driveways, waiting for an announcement.

: On feeling sorry for the press (none / 0) (#213)
by christinep on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:57:16 PM EST

What I learned about the press during the 2000 and 2004 election cycles, I must have forgot. Since I almost went daft, balmy, and whatever from what not-even-euphemistically could be called coverage this political season, at least the tantalizing taunts they have been receiving from the Obama campaign recently provide needed comic relief. On the other hand, what passes for the national media might actually enjoy being pushed around. They keep asking for more, don't they?

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BTD, can we have college football threads (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:35:45 PM EST

on Saturdays this year? I can't wait!

Absolutely (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:38:52 PM EST

Go Gators!.

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And here is one for you (5.00 / 1) (#28)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:40:32 PM EST

Rocky Top.

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that gave me chills. I've been there many (none / 0) (#51)
by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:46:12 PM EST

many times. I'm not a woo-er fan on Rocky Top. That's a big controversy here. :)

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: GO LADY VOLS! (5.00 / 1) (#128)
by Eleanor A on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:12:47 PM EST

;)

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Um. (5.00 / 2) (#61)
by Klio on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:49:20 PM EST

Boomer Sooner, baby! We're #4.
~~~
Local joke lately:
What's the difference between Cheerios & our Sooners? Cheerios look good in a Bowl.

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You stole our coach (none / 0) (#71)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:52:57 PM EST

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I'm in the minority out here, but (none / 0) (#86)
by Klio on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:59:55 PM EST

I'd gladly return him! Overpaid choker.

You know we're the sooner state b/c of cheating, right?

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I'd trade you (5.00 / 1) (#98)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:02:55 PM EST

Stoops is great.

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: Oh, noes! (none / 0) (#122)
by Klio on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:11:23 PM EST

I thought surely you'd be on my side of this argument, since you're usually such a clear-eyed and reasonable observer :-) Mine is a lonely voice!
Not a chance, anyway. He's universally beloved out here and massively well-compensated, although if he blows the end season again this year ....

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I'll trade you Kirk Ferentz... (none / 0) (#165)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:28:12 PM EST

...that way Bobby can be back where he rightfully belongs!

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Gig'Em Aggies! (none / 0) (#144)
by cmugirl on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:19:11 PM EST

Texas A&M. Whoop! Another one out of the Big 12

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As a Florida girl I have to respond... (5.00 / 0) (#101)
by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:03:30 PM EST

GO NOLES!!

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You should be deported (5.00 / 2) (#115)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:09:43 PM EST

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: Well I never.... (none / 0) (#135)
by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:16:04 PM EST

I moved to Canada 11 years ago but I visit Florida often and I miss my Noles. brother and Father are Gatr fans, god help them.
One of the best times in my life was being at a game between the two at Doak-Campbell.

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Heh (5.00 / 2) (#125)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:12:23 PM EST

I'm a Big Ten guy myself, so college football is about as exciting as an Evan Bayh VP pick. But go Spartans anyway!

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But, isn't this the year Michigan will (none / 0) (#131)
by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:13:35 PM EST

win it all w/the newly-implemented West Coast Offense (if the players can figure out what that is)?

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Heh (none / 0) (#137)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:16:29 PM EST

Rich Rodriguez will be a spectacular bust at Michigan. Mark my words. He is simply a poor fit for the culture, or as Bo used to say, "not a Michigan man."

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Did thy ever get that WV (none / 0) (#150)
by chel2551 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:22:50 PM EST

suit settled?

Talk about poor fit, I've already heard comments from alumni women about the way his wife dresses, which is hardly what one would call demure. Let's just say she likes sequins.

But all will be fine if he wins. If he doesn't, he'll be gone soon eough.

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Yes, He plus U of M: (none / 0) (#166)
by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:28:19 PM EST

On July 9, 2008 Rodriguez and WVU agreed to settle the lawsuit. The terms of the settlement state the University of Michigan will pay $2.5 million of the settlement by the end of July 2008. Rodriguez will pay WVU the remaining $1.5 million in three installments, spread over three years, of $500,000 starting in January, 2010.

(Excerpt from Wiki)

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: Thanks. (none / 0) (#187)
by chel2551 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:35:51 PM EST

I still think he was crazy to leave WV.

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Not a single Michigan root to be seen. (none / 0) (#169)
by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:28:59 PM EST

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Not without a QB to run the system. n/t (none / 0) (#171)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:29:32 PM EST

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I went to Kansas (none / 0) (#133)
by dissenter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:15:23 PM EST

there is always hope lol

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Go IU (none / 0) (#215)
by christinep on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:00:21 PM EST

Just to chime in. Basketball and Hoosiers go together.

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Booo! The subject on our morning sports talk (none / 0) (#33)
by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:41:25 PM EST

yesterday was who would we trade from our team for Tim Tebow. The consensus was our new starting quarterback, our best wide receiver and our best running back (who will be the all time leading Tennessee rusher this year). Life's not fair BTD.

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Tebow (5.00 / 1) (#47)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:45:38 PM EST

Untouchable.

But we'll see how the Gators look today.

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Today? (5.00 / 1) (#57)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:47:46 PM EST

I mean this year.

Waiting On Obama has me punchy.

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: I'm about ready to punch something too. (none / 0) (#65)
by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:51:18 PM EST

Not a very productive day for me.

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Go Dawgs!! (none / 0) (#97)
by jb64 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:02:39 PM EST

#1 baby!

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: I'm hopin' for an upset (none / 0) (#140)
by cmugirl on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:17:58 PM EST

Central Michigan Chippewas upsetting Georgia (I hope!)

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You're permanently banned from my threads (none / 0) (#91)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:01:08 PM EST

Kidding . . . sort of.

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: I'm sure to be banned for confessin' (none / 0) (#105)
by shoephone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:04:50 PM EST

I'm sort of a USC fan.

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I second that and, until then, (5.00 / 1) (#25)
by scribe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:40:05 PM EST

deal with football by talking NFL, and present a little bit of evidence why Steelers' fans are the best - and everywhere.

Background of the photo, upper right.

Somewhere, Myron Cope smiles, takes a sip.

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Haha (none / 0) (#96)
by CST on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:02:32 PM EST

Ahhh Steelers fans, almost as cool as red sox fans :) Steelers are my 2nd favorite team in the NFL. I went to college in the 'burgh and was one of the masses Carson St. when they won the superbowl. Good times... They never could get past my true hero Brady though. He was always too much for em.

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: You mean, like this Sawx fan? (5.00 / 1) (#184)
by scribe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:32:20 PM EST

Image taken while visiting the Charm City of Baltimore and its lovely Camden Yards.
Stiller fans do not need body paint to protect them against the cold and snow when they go shirtless.... (They have Vitamin I to protect them).

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Reminds me of the Vanilla Fudge song, (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:39:08 PM EST

"You Just Keep Me Hangin' On" (Diana Ross too)

People are starting to lose interest in obama; apparently they think this is how he will get a jumpstart....just speculating cuz I am not a mind reader :)

I think he was all set to announce ... (5.00 / 7) (#24)
by Robot Porter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:39:22 PM EST

Nastia Liukin for VP, but then he realized she was too young, and had born in Russia.

He considered Tyson Gay. But then dumped him after Gay dropped the baton. Well, that and the realization that bumperstickers saying Obama/Gay might not play well.

He's currently talking with Dara Tores.

You forgot Misty May (5.00 / 7) (#31)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:40:58 PM EST

Obama/May

The slogan would be "Yes we can, and Misty May".

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Heh ... (5.00 / 0) (#43)
by Robot Porter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:43:48 PM EST

good one.

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Problem is (none / 0) (#134)
by Eleanor A on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:15:37 PM EST

both those volleyballers are diehard GOP. Did you hear Walsh thank George Bush for prancing around in his socks and providing her with so much inspiration? Immediately after they won the gold?

SPEW. And after Dubya sat up there in his shirtsleeves during the opening ceremonies, while everyone else was wearing a suit.

What a national embarrassment he is. Wish the Dems could have fielded a better foil this year.

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: So it would be a unity (none / 0) (#142)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:18:34 PM EST

ticket. No surpise.

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After all this build-up, it had better be BIG (5.00 / 5) (#30)
by RonK Seattle on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:40:57 PM EST

Al Gore?

Kodos??

William Howard Taft???

I predict .............. (5.00 / 2) (#59)
by cawaltz on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:48:20 PM EST

.................................................................................................... .................................................................................................... .............................Reagan

Did I pause enough for dramatic effect?

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Ronnie, Jr is awesome (none / 0) (#68)
by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:52:35 PM EST

AND a democrat!!

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Oh did you think I meant jr. (5.00 / 0) (#85)
by cawaltz on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:59:43 PM EST

I meant that transformative fella who was around during the eighties. The one who starred with the chimp(not the one currently residing in the WH.)

I guess I was Obama vague. Sorry to get your hopes up. ;)

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He's an ass, an I believe an independent. (5.00 / 3) (#109)
by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:05:56 PM EST

You must have missed him calling Hillary a LIAR and a RACIST on teevee.

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: I did miss that (none / 0) (#176)
by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:30:35 PM EST

what in the world got into him? He had been so solid there for so long!
cawalt: no, I knew you were referring to his dad.

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Lincoln (none / 0) (#66)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:51:46 PM EST

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Well its rush hour on the east coast. (5.00 / 8) (#34)
by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:41:32 PM EST

...remember boys and girls, no texting when you're driving. I'm serious. I'm tired of my insurance rates going up because of your little fender benders,

Sincerely,
Mom

Yep, had a parked car totaled (5.00 / 4) (#84)
by Cream City on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:59:37 PM EST

by a sweet young thing up the street who was on her cellphone and doing her makeup while driving.

And then tried to deny it all for a long week, when I had to play detective for our overworked police and finally tracked her down to her hideout in her folks' home in the burbs. And then they tried to deny it, and . . . well, we finally got our check.

And wasn't I not surprised to see sweet young thing up the street put up an Obama sign. So I betcha she's waiting for that text message. Beware, drivers.

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worst driving I ever saw (none / 0) (#93)
by Klio on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:01:49 PM EST

the guy was using both hands to floss his teeth!

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: Between Baton Rouge and New Orleans (none / 0) (#159)
by sj on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:24:27 PM EST

On I-10. A woman with a book open and resting on the steering wheel. Reading while she sailed on the interstate. Did a bit of speeding until I was sure I was out of her orbit. I figured that was safer than observing (more or less) the speed limit and staying nearby.

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LOL! A Very Good PSA (none / 0) (#58)
by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:47:52 PM EST

Thank goodness I had a half-day at work today. M Street and Connecticut Ave (for folks in DC who know what I'm talking about) was actually a breeze a drive through about 2 hours ago.

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Jim (none / 0) (#75)
by cmugirl on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:54:23 PM EST

You should be taking the Metro - saves gas and you don't have to pay the ridiculous $20 for parking!

(9th and Penn here)

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Yep. (none / 0) (#110)
by chel2551 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:06:06 PM EST

And there's always Zipcar if one is needed.

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Actually... (none / 0) (#120)
by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:11:17 PM EST

I walk to work because I live about 5-6 blocks away from my workplace (on M Street, near Dupont Circle) ... but I go for a swim every Tuesday and Friday in Arlington before work, so I have to drive to get there and to work on time.

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: I envy your commute (none / 0) (#139)
by cmugirl on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:16:57 PM EST

Although a half hour on the yellow line out to Alexandria is not really bad.

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Yup, many in NYC have summer hours (none / 0) (#130)
by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:13:35 PM EST

and are already off for the weekend. Most are long gone from the office by 2PM iirc.

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Now why in the world would Obama (5.00 / 1) (#35)
by Josey on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:41:33 PM EST

announce his VP and knock his spin about McCain's house gaffe off the headlines?

if it happens at the 6pm (5.00 / 1) (#36)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:41:56 PM EST

friday news dump I dont see how thats a good sign.
might as well wait till the show tomorrow.

as long as it is an open thread (5.00 / 4) (#39)
by Jlvngstn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:42:33 PM EST

can someone please call NBC and let them know that the competitors in the olympics come from countries other than US and China? Maybe someone could also tell them that in the 30 years i have been watching olympic coverage this has been the most pathetic in that time frame? Is the rahrah USA coverage intended to make us change the channel to watch Olberman?

The gymnastic jingoism (5.00 / 2) (#45)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:44:22 PM EST

was disgusting.

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Have you also noticed that.... (5.00 / 2) (#54)
by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:47:07 PM EST

...they are only making a big deal of the events that are on the NBC network. Although they are covering soccer, basketball, boxing, among others, on their cable channels, they hardly mention them on their prime time coverage.

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They showed like 2 min (5.00 / 4) (#145)
by Eleanor A on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:19:13 PM EST

of the pole vault. That event kicks ass. I'd A LOT rather have seen that than the 50 endless hours they devoted to beach volleyball.

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: And what about the long jump.... (5.00 / 2) (#152)
by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:23:15 PM EST

...or the high jump where did they go?

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: The uniforms are nicer. (none / 0) (#161)
by chel2551 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:25:29 PM EST

I'd A LOT rather have seen that than the 50 endless hours they devoted to beach volleyball.
And that silly twit making her sickening remarks about Bush was cringe-inducing.
How embarrassing.

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: Pole Vault and High Jump (none / 0) (#170)
by CoralGables on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:29:05 PM EST

Pole vault and high jump....if they leave out the gyrations of the participants prior to their attempts it's not quite the same. I'm afraid the days of television covering the high jump are left back in the days of Dick Fosbury. The average Olympic viewer wants non-stop action. Thankfully it looks like we may get the marathon live Saturday evening.

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They go with people are interested in (none / 0) (#67)
by dissenter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:52:02 PM EST

The vast majority of Americans were not going to tune into preliminary basketball, polo, table tennis or soccer games instead of watching Michael Phelps and gymnastics.

They go with the live events on prime time. Most of the team sports happened live but they were on cable because they were in the middle of the night. Some get replays in the evening...like track.

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: Sorry (none / 0) (#70)
by dissenter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:52:57 PM EST

"what" people are interested in:)

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: I think people are interested in (none / 0) (#82)
by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:59:10 PM EST

...basketball and soccer. But I don't expect them to cover the entire game in primetime. However, they act as if those sports are not going on at all just because they don't want you to change the channel, I believe.

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: Part of the problem is that Beijing (none / 0) (#94)
by scribe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:02:02 PM EST

is like 12 hours ahead of Eastern Time, which means if the event goes off live at noon, it's live in NY at midnight.
IF you're into insomnia, it's great - if you want to watch it live.
The first weekend, I was at a friends' place and woke real early (like 5 am), so I wound up flipping on the tube and quietly watching a series of preliminary badminton matches being covered live on one of NBC's cable channels - everything was in Korean, even the chryon.
The live coverage is also targeted to various ethnic audiences here in the States - the Spanish-language channels have had a lot of soccer, for instance.
I'd rather they put it up in something resembling the on-demand features, but (of course) for no additional cost. IOC should work something like that in to the rights deals. That way, us [your favorite obscure sport], curling, shotgun sports and wrestling junkies can watch all the sports we want, and not have to watch unending tearjerkers about the hard life of some teenybopper figure skater and her mean boyfriend or whatever.

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Yes. (5.00 / 2) (#78)
by Klio on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:55:59 PM EST

We're missing all the gorgeous athleticism that is the whole point of this show. I want to see the athletes. All.of.them.

This really has been the worst ever. I may never recover from the brainzapping tedium of endless beach volleyball. And I don't know how you folks in the eastern time zone are staying up.

Also, Bob Costas needs a new 'do. He's been putting me in mind of Marv Albert .... since this is an open thread and all.

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I love how (5.00 / 4) (#108)
by CST on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:05:56 PM EST

Every time someone wins a silver medal in track (from the U.S.) the interviewer asks "what happened?" As if they somehow failed because they didn't win first. I just want one of them to answer "well, the shot went off, I ran, and came in second, that's what happened".

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I confess (none / 0) (#118)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:10:46 PM EST

I love to tease my wife by pointing out that not only do I aspire for our daughter to win an Olympic medal someday, "it had better be gold!"

The other day my daughter was pointing at stuff and asking me the words. I was like, "that book is silver! That's a baaaaad color!!" Oh, the dirty look I got from mom.

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Per the Royal Scotsman newspaper: (none / 0) (#123)
by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:11:41 PM EST

should the Queen knight Chris Hoy, a Scottish bicyclist who won three gold medals?

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: If the Queen of the Netherlands (none / 0) (#217)
by scribe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:03:15 PM EST

can knight Sidney Ponson* - who's never won anything - the Queen of England should knight this Scottish cyclist, who has. IMHO, the knighthood cutoff should be 3 Golds, or a lesser number and decades of service to sport.
* An OK journeyman pitcher from Curacao, with a notorious history of public and private intox, post-knighthood assaulting a local judge on the beach Curacao, and getting run out of the Texas Rangers' clubhouse and roster for drunkenness....

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The other day (none / 0) (#87)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:00:07 PM EST

I saw some track & field event where, for some reason, they were completely and totally focused on this one competitor from Sweden. Now, I grant you she was plenty attractive, but it was as if she was running the race by herself. I think she finished second and they weren't even showing the winner!

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: the one from the chicken commercial? (none / 0) (#100)
by Klio on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:03:20 PM EST

because she has an 8-pack like I've never seen. (Not to be all lookist or anything)

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Meh (5.00 / 1) (#42)
by andgarden on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:43:39 PM EST

Mebbe we won't find out until tomorrow.

thats what Im thinkin (none / 0) (#52)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:46:43 PM EST

isnt that the was GHWB did it with his Quayleness?

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: Word from the Obama camp is.... (5.00 / 1) (#186)
by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:33:27 PM EST

maybe tomorrow, maybe Sunday, maybe not until convention....they are still building their cell phone database, and the longer they delay, the more people who are signing on!!

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Preemptive Measures (5.00 / 4) (#46)
by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:44:46 PM EST

After reading this ... (here)

According to the campaign, in the hours prior to Obama's speech, campaign workers and aids will be on stage encouraging the crowd to use their cell phones to text message friends and family to garner support for the Senator. In addition, aids will be among the crowd distributing "micro-targeted" call sheets and scripts for supporters to use their cell phones to contact Obama supporters or unregistered voters to encourage their support. According to one campaign official, Steve Hildebrand, "There will be a lot of idle time. We put idle people to work."

(emphasis mine) I'm going contact the 12 colleagues/friends whom I know will be at Invesco Stadium not to even entertain the thought of calling or texting me with their pitches and scripts.

I might even shut my phone off in the hours before Obama performs on stage ... just to be safe.

What if everyone they call... (5.00 / 4) (#69)
by EL seattle on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:52:54 PM EST

... is there in the crowd already? That would sound pretty cool, actually. A zillion different ring tones going off at once.

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Speaking of a zillion ringtones at once ... (none / 0) (#111)
by RonK Seattle on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:06:10 PM EST

... here's the visual equivalent.

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: I wonder (5.00 / 2) (#114)
by dissenter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:09:16 PM EST

how fast it will be before they sell all those numbers to some corporate entity to raise money lol

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didn't Kerry do this (none / 0) (#64)
by ccpup on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:50:35 PM EST

during the Convention or something as well?

I seem to remember masses of people texting all at the same time at his command during his speech or something and thinking it would make a HUGE difference in the end.

Oh well.

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Two good ads. (5.00 / 3) (#53)
by Fabian on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:46:44 PM EST

And DAMMIT, they aren't on youtube!

I watch CNN at McD's with the younguns. 20 minutes is about all I can stand. (Shark Alert in California!) Today was better than average. An analyst said that if McCain makes the race All About Obama (negative framing) then Obama loses. I agreed. Analyst also said that Housegate was a waste. I agreed. Hillary was not mentioned. Hallelujah. Some poor schmuck had to talk for a couple minutes about the VP nonevent.

WeCanSolveIt had a commercial - maybe 30 seconds. Beautifully done - consistent and to the point. There was an attack ad on Stivers(OH-16 State Senate) linking him with Bush policies and the Bush economy. No insinuation, no subtlety, no nuance - just Bush Bad, Stivers=Bush, Stivers Bad. They threw in enough substance to back up the assertions, too.

If you think this is slow ... (5.00 / 5) (#55)
by RonK Seattle on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:47:31 PM EST

... just wait for his cabinet picks.

: That would be in another lifetime (none / 0) (#74)
by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:54:18 PM EST

But, should he get the opportunity, we can find that list in his campaign donations from the SD's PACs.

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so many white males, so little time (5.00 / 13) (#56)
by Josey on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:47:35 PM EST

tick...tick...tick....

Hillary Looks Great, Looks Fresh (Even Younger) (5.00 / 9) (#107)
by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:05:50 PM EST

I'm watching CNN (after a long time) and Hillary was just asked what Obama will need in VP.

Like she should, she pushed back against any notion that she was dictating his choice for VP.

She looked really good. She might have had her hair cut -- she looked fresh, and even younger.

My heart sinks whenever I see her now.

Hillary Clinton - Coulda, Woulda, Shouda

Offensive (5.00 / 2) (#119)
by Upstart Crow on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:11:14 PM EST

BTD's udated comments -- about Hillary and the press above.

I find this humiliating treatment of her deeply offensive.

: I agree. (5.00 / 2) (#143)
by NYCDem11 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:18:40 PM EST

It's rubbing salt in the wounds. I'm not feeling the unity love.

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So you don't buy Chet Edwards? (5.00 / 0) (#126)
by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:12:25 PM EST

Hillary, for the love of God, STOP campaigning for this ingrate. For chrissakes, he hasn't even helped with your campaign debt. You owe him NADA!

: I think he has to screw her publicly (none / 0) (#138)
by goldberry on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:16:46 PM EST

Gotta make it official before she says, "Ok, that's it!"
If she quits before he announces, she looks like an usurper when she unsuspends
annnnnd to keep her from unsuspending and stealing his thunder, he has to drag this out to the last possible second.
Very Kabuki, very annoying.
If I were her, I'd say screw it but she's got to make it look good before she makes her move.

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could I just say (5.00 / 2) (#136)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:16:15 PM EST

I no longer give a damn. I am officially over it.

Just glad I'm not gonna have to (5.00 / 1) (#157)
by Eleanor A on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:23:50 PM EST

decide whether or not to vote for Obama/Clinton. Although I'm in TN, it's not like it'll make any difference - Obama will lose hugely here.

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Yeah, me too. (none / 0) (#178)
by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:31:24 PM EST

I've been watching Wolf Blitzer for the last 30 minutes (after 4-5 months of a self-imposed ban on all primetime cable news programs) ... and his perpetual voice tone of urgency/suspense is driving me nuts.

I'm changing the channel now.

So the VP announcement is now officially a Friday night news dump.

Agreed. Although, I can't quite understand why they'd do that, seeing how Obama loves the media attention, anyhow and anywhere he can get it.

A lot of people go for movies or quiet family dinners on Friday night, so they'd better think twice if they're planning to break the news at a time when they think everyone will be free.

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: I think that is exactly why (none / 0) (#195)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:47:29 PM EST

they did not want it to be a big story apparently.
surely they must know it will be anyway.

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Capt Howdy ... (none / 0) (#179)
by Robot Porter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:31:26 PM EST

I know who you secretly hope it is ... Regan MacNeil.

After what she went through, handling Obama shouldn't be a problem.

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: HA (5.00 / 1) (#192)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:45:28 PM EST

que the pea soup

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The ultimate Unity Pick (5.00 / 1) (#148)
by CST on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:22:02 PM EST

Cindy McCain

: Heh n/t (none / 0) (#155)
by Lahdee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:23:27 PM EST

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: maybe they could both (none / 0) (#162)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:25:58 PM EST

pick Lieberman. he could debate himself.

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The Heck with Obama! (5.00 / 1) (#154)
by southernyankee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:23:25 PM EST

I have always voted Republican in presidential campaigns (except for Tsongas in the primaries) despite being an independent. I really disliked the Republican field this year and found myself warming up to Hillary, mostly because of the work she has done in the Senate and her morphing into something approaching a blue dog in the primaries. I would also say that the shabby treatment the media and Obama directed to her influenced me - I love the underdog.

Anyway, why should she take the VP slot? Obama has never done more than backhand compliment her. If I were her, I would do the bare minimum for Obama and hope he loses and run a permanent campaign for the four years of McCain.

Well, if you have always voted Republican (none / 0) (#172)
by shoephone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:29:33 PM EST

than this may not be the blog for you.

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Why not? (5.00 / 1) (#200)
by Prabhata on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:51:41 PM EST

Jeralyn has allowed dissent on this site. Jeralyn does not allow trolling. Democrats, REAL Democrats allow dissent.

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: I welcome dissent (none / 0) (#211)
by shoephone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:56:31 PM EST

and obviously, so do our proprietors here. But it is not a Republican site. That's all.

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Ugh. (5.00 / 1) (#167)
by chel2551 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:28:27 PM EST

The pick (Joe Biden) has been told says Gloria Borger.

So the VP announcement is now officially a Friday night news dump.

and right into the dustbin of history.

Unbelievable.

yep (none / 0) (#182)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:31:38 PM EST

Biden gets named in Friday news dump. It seems that Hillary isn't the only one that gets poor treatment from Obama.

Cue the Biden ads coming en masse from the GOP soon.

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That's (5.00 / 3) (#199)
by chrisvee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:49:44 PM EST

clearly Hillary's fault. If everyone wasn't so obsessed with her, then poor Joe Biden could get the attention he deserves instead of being dumped on a Friday.

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: Hilary is the designated fall guy (5.00 / 2) (#216)
by AlSmith on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:01:27 PM EST

At Rally, Finding Clinton's Aid to Obama Too Tepid
""It was good that she said my supporters need to now support Barack Obama," said Ms. Shaffer, 46, reflecting on Mrs. Clinton's speech before about 700 people. But, she added, "I wanted her to repeat that one more time.""
What the hell is the standard here? How many times does she have to genuflect to Obama in a speech she is making about Obama? She already got groped by Richardson.
I am not the worlds biggest HRC supporter but is there someone else who has done more appearances for him? If he cant win over her supporters, that his is problem.
This is already being set up as the Clintons were the reason that Obama lost.

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I'm so bored. with the VP thing.. (5.00 / 2) (#185)
by p lukasiak on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:32:25 PM EST

...I can't even get up the energy to repeat for the third or fourth time the things I said when I was responding to the same comments that appear over and over and over again....

I mean, we're now talking about The Blob as the VP nominee....

LA Times says the drama is (5.00 / 1) (#191)
by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:45:15 PM EST

intensifying. Really?

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: they've brought in sequinned whips... (5.00 / 5) (#201)
by p lukasiak on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:51:46 PM EST

to flog the dead horse with.

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: more like emulsifying. (5.00 / 2) (#204)
by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:53:43 PM EST

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even with the Blob (none / 0) (#207)
by ccpup on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:55:34 PM EST

as VP, I still think people will believe the ticket should be reversed so Obama can get some important on-the-job experience before taking the Top Spot in eight years.

Just sayin'.

But Ras has the Blob's numbers even among his own Base taking a hit and there are rumors of sordid blob-i-ness in his closet, so ... he may not be the pick after all.

:-)

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Has a betting line been started as to how soon (5.00 / 1) (#194)
by jawbone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:46:45 PM EST

Biden will be thrown under the bus for saying something inappropriate?

: you know, I've gone so far (5.00 / 3) (#209)
by mary kate on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:55:54 PM EST

down the path of disillusionment, I'm beginning to hope it's Biden just for the comedy value. What a treasure trove of gaffes, Freudian slips, and embarrassing off-the-cuff commentary!

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Why am I here? (5.00 / 3) (#203)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:53:16 PM EST

It has nothing to do with my love of Joe Biden, and everything to do with how entertaining y'all are today.

I really should walk my dogs, go to half priced books and get ingredients for Ghivetch, but instead, here I am.

Would you people stop being so entertaining?

Thank you!

: You sound like the Talking Heads (none / 0) (#208)
by Prabhata on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:55:42 PM EST

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Prediction (4.50 / 2) (#193)
by Prabhata on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:46:16 PM EST

Obama loses 3 points minimum after he picks his VP and he never recovers. Not even the convention will give him a bounce.

: I agree (4.00 / 1) (#198)
by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:49:44 PM EST

3 points minimum. I am betting it starts there and slides to an 8 points by the end of the convention.

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I heard that (2.00 / 1) (#146)
by Lahdee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:19:35 PM EST

Obama called McCain and advised him of his VP pick confident that John wouldn't remember after they hung up.

I've been thinking: not Kaine. (none / 0) (#1)
by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:29:55 PM EST

Rimes with "McCain."

Plus he is on Fox News Sunday. Of course, that (none / 0) (#3)
by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:31:06 PM EST

would be just like Mr. Bipartisan to have his VP on Fox's sunday news show.

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also rhymes with (none / 0) (#156)
by CST on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:23:47 PM EST

Another word that ends in 'caine. I decided last night that the rhymes with factor is why he wouldn't be picked.

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: Ah, Eric Clapton. (none / 0) (#175)
by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:30:22 PM EST

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Hiccup (none / 0) (#88)
by Robot Porter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:00:26 PM EST

Biden to Obama:

"When I said, 'sure I'll be your VP' I was being sarcastic."

late breaking news (5.00 / 3) (#106)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:05:30 PM EST

anyone with hair plugs is constitutionally prohibited.

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I'll cut him some slack on the plugs ... (5.00 / 2) (#121)
by Robot Porter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:11:22 PM EST

because I believe he got them (at least partially) to cover up a brain surgery scar.

(No matter how I write that it sounds like a joke. It isn't meant to be.)

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: I laughed (5.00 / 1) (#141)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:18:09 PM EST

then I felt guilty.
I actually did not know about the brain surgery.
still, more attractive than hair plugs IMO.

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Great! My layover tomorrow is in Indianapolis (none / 0) (#102)
by goldberry on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:04:08 PM EST

What are the chances I'll make my connection to Denver? Slim or none?

: I dunno (5.00 / 1) (#113)
by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:08:32 PM EST

You may be stuck having a long lunch in Dick Clark's American Bandstand Restaurant!
Indy is a small enough airport that I can't imagine it could ever get TOO chaotic. Hoosiers don't do chaos.

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5 PM News or Prime Time? (none / 0) (#104)
by themomcat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:04:35 PM EST

Any bets? I'm all in for 5 PM news. I don't think he'll wait until 8 PM EST because: (1) It's Friday and people are more likely to be out to dinner or (2) Watching the Olympics which NBC hasn't messed up too badly. Of course, He could wait until 8 PM in the East as it will be 5 PM on the West Coast. Anyway, it hasn't rained here in days so I am going to water my garden.

: When shall we three meet again? (5.00 / 1) (#132)
by goldberry on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:13:39 PM EST

In thunder, lightening or in rain?
When the hurly-buly's done
When the battle's lost and won.

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cool, dish network has a live feed channel (none / 0) (#124)
by DandyTIger on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:12:04 PM EST

set up for convention coverage. Wonder what sorts of things it will cover.

Chet Edwards... (none / 0) (#129)
by shoephone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:13:23 PM EST

I'm starting to think he might be kind of an inspired pick. No, Obama still won't win Texas but Edwards has some solid creds, he fought against the Tom Delay machine, and he is far more interesting than any of the three stooges that we were given as head fakes the past two weeks.

Texan (5.00 / 1) (#174)
by Kate Stone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:30:16 PM EST

Isn't he one of the most conservative Democrats in the House?

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Agreed (none / 0) (#149)
by Lahdee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:22:10 PM EST

He did vote for FISA, but I am okay with what I have read about him.

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I hate that he voted for FISA (5.00 / 1) (#164)
by shoephone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:28:04 PM EST

It was my line in the sand. It's the #1 reason I can't vote for Obama. But I think Edwards up the interest factor considerably.

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we must be reading (none / 0) (#177)
by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:31:10 PM EST

about two different Chets

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: I wasn't saying "I like him" (none / 0) (#202)
by shoephone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:52:43 PM EST

Although anyone who can beat back the gerrymandering machine of Tom Delay gets some admiration. And he does vote with the Dems the majority of the time (not necessarily an endorsement, considering the lousiness of the Dem Congress!)
I just think that from a media point of view his name adds some juice to a VP-contender list that is extraordinarily snooze worthy. I think, so far, the Democratic convention risks putting us all to sleep.

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: am thinking of a third (none / 0) (#205)
by AlSmith on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:54:55 PM EST

"If you need anything at all my name is Chet"
Steve Buscemi to John Turturo in "Barton Fink".
It kills me they way he writes down "Chet!" in this at 2:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNspFSUv0nM

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Texas (none / 0) (#180)
by Kate Stone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:31:27 PM EST

Isn't he one of the most conservative Dems in the House?

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: Chet Edwards is about 80th percentile ... (5.00 / 1) (#210)
by RonK Seattle on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:55:57 PM EST

... (conservative) on a left-right scaling of House Democrats.
4/5 of House D's are more liberal, 1/5 more conservative (and all but 4 of these are Blue Dogs and/or new dogs).

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Oh THAT Chet Edwards (none / 0) (#181)
by Firewalker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:31:27 PM EST

Wow, now I remember him. He's the guy who went on MSNBC or whatever during the primaries and completely drew a blank when he was asked what were Obama's accomplishments. Yeah, he'll be a fantastic VP/surrogate for Obama!

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I'll ask again. I wonder what (none / 0) (#153)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:23:17 PM EST

the non-picking of Hillary will do to these numbers:

Obama Lags in Democratic Support

: He'll get a huge poll bump! (5.00 / 4) (#189)
by Firewalker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:39:35 PM EST

Everyone knows that the only person who can unite the Democrats is Joe Biden, or maybe Chet Edwards. They both have millions of supporters/huge base of support.

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Train derailment in OK (none / 0) (#158)
by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:24:06 PM EST

looks pretty firey.

This should bring up some memories (none / 0) (#160)
by scribe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:25:03 PM EST

Crystal Mangum, the woman at the center of the Duke Lacrosse case, is writing a memoir.

I'm sure it will prove interesting....

Looks like the pick would be before 5est time news (none / 0) (#183)
by Saul on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:32:09 PM EST

If they wanted to make a news Friday of it.

Here we go...watch your phones (none / 0) (#190)
by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:40:51 PM EST

CNN has just reported that the vice presidential pick has been asked and he or she has
accepted. The coordination of sending the text messages out has begun.

: CNN just wants to get the viewers (none / 0) (#197)
by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:49:08 PM EST

who are sitting in wait for the announcement, so they are pretending they have the inside track. (Maybe.)
That's a Donna Brazile network, so they can announce whenever they want, I'll be giving my rating point to a non-Brazile broadcaster.

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