You know, you're providing fodder for the movement here. These anti-Clinton zealots are a big reason why PUMA exists.

PUMAs are against the corruption in the Dem party. Sounds like these people are all for it.

Sullivan I get.  Sort of.  Never quite been able to wrap my head around Log Cabin Republican types.  Sullivan comes off, to me, as the Matthews type.  There is something personal in his hatred of the Clintons, as if as some point he felt entitled to be chosen by them for something and when they didn't choose him, he seethed.

I am not a PUMA.  But I understand the anger of lots of Clinton supporters. I am an angry Clinton supporter and I am having difficulty letting go of that.  But more and more I realize what has happened.  The gender bias released on Hillary hurt so much....it was reliving so much for so many of us.

Maybe I do get it.  I always knew there were a lot of sexist jerks on the right.  But on the left, I was naive about it. Maybe I was blinded by my own needs.  But the truth is it's been there....and the insecurity of some supposedly "liberal/progressive" men when it comes to strong women has been shown to me.  Whether it's the 30 somethings like Kos who give lip service to gender equity and treat older women with a subtle disdain, or the old time men like Kerry and Kennedy, Matthews, Russert etc who were raised in the northeast paternalistic catholic church, or the blogger boys who don't even try to hide their disdain for older women, it's clear.

"Why does Chelsea Clinton have a speaking role at the convention and not Charlie Rangel"

The media types are in a bind because they can't really let loose until the conventions are over and the campaigns really cut loose.  So it's back to the old CDS well until then.  

Same with Huffington.

Same with Aravosis.

It's disgusting. Every Tom (Daschle), Dick (Durbin) and Harry (Reid) are being given their moment in the sun but the first woman candidate to be within grasping distance of the nomination (and NOT getting it thanks to Queen Nancy and Jesse Jr browbeating SDs into not supporting her!), and the only 2 term Democratic President in the past 60+ years who is still hugely popular? Nah, let's not let them even show their faces. They, like their horrible supporters, don't need to show up.

Does anyone actually believe that anyone else is going to get the kind of ratings and attention at the convention besides Bill and Hillary? Please name me one other Democratic politician who can get the crowds going like either of them can. Except maybe...MAYBE Barack Obama himself. John Kerry? Bill Richardson? Jimmy Carter? Nancy Pelosi? Claire McCaskill?

The other people believe she is a democrat in name only and want her removed from the party.

Bacevich said both Dems and Repubs see the role of the president as using that power, especially of the military, in extending US reach.

It was a truly depressing interview, but Bacevich said things which have been voiced over and over here.

Yeah?  Well, you're a poopie head, too.  

I think the worst was (natch) Dick Morris saying that the Clintons tricked Obama into holding their convention.

Bill is the last Democratic president.

Hillary nearly won.

DailyKos majored in Clinton hating and probably still does now.

And, Obama and the DNC were dead set against it.

These people are pro-America and pro-democracy.  The only things they are against are thugs stealing caucus delegates, fraud, theft, threats, force, inequality, imperialism, fascism, hypocrisy, hate, lies, and the like.