Friday Open Thread

Scotland voted to stay in the U.K. "With 31 of 32 constituencies declared, unionists had won 55 percent of the vote while separatists were on 45 percent."

The bill to arm and train "moderate" Syrian rebels has now passed in the Senate.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Sad but true Scotland lost the vote (none / 0) (#1)
    by fishcamp on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:16:59 AM EST
    but Cameron promises reform with taxes, welfare and more.  Unfortunately the English have made these very promises before and not kept them.  They even grumble in the pubs if you pay for a pint with a Scottish pound.  We gave them a scare and if the promises are not kept well, remember the film Braveheart.

    Reliably, (none / 0) (#2)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:23:22 AM EST
    Cameron, Obama and the Queen all came out against the movement for independence.

    Obama's reason was my favorite.
    He needs a "strong" partner...presumably for his military escapades.


    One thing (none / 0) (#3)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:32:53 AM EST
    that interested everyone was the size of voter registration, and the size of the turnout. Up near 90% .

    It made me think that people will turn out to vote if they can feel that their vote has an actual bearing on the quality of their lives.

    That is something I haven't felt in quite awhile - despite the exhortations of some people posting here whose opinions I respect, but cannot feel at this juncture.

    Example: Obama v/s McCain. What could be clearer?
    And yet, the fact that Obama actually campaigned for Joe Lieberman against Lamont in 2006 - a time when the entire country was revolted by the war in Iraq - turned my stomach to such a degree that I could not feel anything positive about him - no matter how fkd up McCain appeared to be.

    I suspect others may feel as put off as I - and that would have something to do with the dismal turnouts here in the US.

    Another positive note in the Scottish vote: they have enfranchised voters from the age of 16.

    I believe that should happen here too.
    16 and 17 year olds have a great stake in the policies of our government and should have the right to express themselves at the ballot box.