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A somewhat questionable call gives us a penalty kick that Carli Lloyd buries to go up 1-Nil, not long after the Cup's leading scorer shanks a penalty of their own where Julie Johnston was lucky not to draw a tarjeta rojo, solomente amarillo. And sweet ball movement leads to a cross from Lloyd that Kelley O'Hara karate kicks out of the air and in to ice it late.
Up next is the victor of England v. Japan...I'm hoping for a shot at the redcoats, nothing better than beating England at their own game.
Great job Team USA...uno mas!
kdog: "We're in the final after defeating the favored Krauts, 2-Nil."
... do you also still call people of Polish descent "Polacks," or those of Italian heritage "Wops"? Are Americans of Japanese ancestry still "Japs" to you, and Chinese "Chinks," &etc.?
If not, then speaking as someone of German-Irish descent, I would please ask that you henceforth avoid using the now-offensive World War II-era pejorative of "Krauts," when referencing Germans in your posts. This isn't 1944, and we're not storming Omaha Beach under heavy fire.
kdog the McArab
Nothing like a little good natured inter-ethnic ball busting in international sports. Takes the bite out of past indignities, I think.
Hopefully we will play England in the finals. Though if so, we will probably be referred to by the pejorative "Yanks."
Going forward, mayhaps we should petition Steinbrenner to drop that derogatory name?
Now the Wilpons, they're so offensive they should be banned from MLB;)
SUO: "Some people look for offense like there is a reward for it. Nothing like a little good natured inter-ethnic ball busting in international sports. Takes the bite out of past indignities, I think."
... of all people ought to remember this little discussion, the next time you seek to upbraid someone else for supposedly making what you claim to be a derogatory comment about women, obese people, &etc.
Because I can assure you that I, and perhaps a few others here who've been subjected to your periodic and out-of-context tongue-lashings in that regard, will remember the double standard which you so proudly fly today.
I made my comment to kdog not because I was "looking for offense" in his remark, but because as someone of German descent, I was actually and genuinely offended by it. And quite frankly, I was being rather polite about it, figuring that by living in the moment, he may not have realized how some would interpret his reference.
That fact that both he and you have since effectively doubled down on your use of such derogatory slurs as "good natured" is genuinely pathetic (if not also troubling), particularly in light of the at-length discussions about prejudice we've been having here during these past two weeks.
Given your perverse logic, SUO, why don't you go to the next L.A. Galaxy match over in Carson and shout out to midfielder Robbie Rogers from the stands that he's a "little f@ggot," and then see how others in the stadium and Galaxy players / personnel react to your "good-natured ball busting"? That sort of "levity" will likely run you the genuine risk of getting leveled parallel with the pavement.
In the meantime, I would suggest that you and kdog hop back aboard Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine to return yourselves from the 1980s to the year 2015. Ethnic, racial and personal slurs of any sort have no place in modern sports -- particularly in international soccer, which has a rather sordid and bloody history on that count:
BBC | May 31, 1985
English teams banned after Heysel -- "The Football Association has banned English clubs from playing in Europe following the Heysel stadium tragedy two days ago in which 39 fans died. [...] Last Wednesday evening, 39 people died and more than 400 were injured when a wall collapsed at the stadium in Brussels during violent riots just before the European cup final between Liverpool and Juventus (Turin)." (NOTE: Most of the victims that day were deliberately targeted because they were Italian.)
And there was NO good-natured humor or ball-busting in your comments; you were dead serious. Angry, even.
Your comments were nothing at all like the comments in this thread and you deserved being called out for them.
Hope that clears everything up!
I am 100% German, but just never experienced any sort prejudice because of it, so to me it not offensive in any way. Now that is not to say I didn't experience it when I moved to Texas because my name sounds Jewish. It doesn't, but that is a whole other conversation about idiots.
My point here is that finding someone not offended doesn't make it OK. Donald's experiences are different than mine and even when you are joking around these things do hurt people. I am sure some in South Carolina can't believe some people find certain language or symbols offensive because to them it means something else.
But it should not be the people making the remark deciding, it should be the people who are offended saying enough, I don't want to hear that non-sense. And come on, there is no reason to use terminology that hurts people's feelings when perfectly good terminology exists that doesn't. There is no defense for offending people once you certain words offend them.
No need to analyze and call it PC or whatever, just stop. You wouldn't call someone Bob if they preferred Robert, for no other reason that they don't want to be called Bob, and I noticed down south, many go by names, like Jeb when their actual name is John(as in John Ellis Bush). But only a jerk would call them a name they don't want to be called.
The barometer should always be if it bothers people, not some idiotic list of the 'PC' dejour. And Bob should also realize that no everyone knows he wants to go by Robert, so if an error is made, just point it out and move along.
The world isn't going to stop spinning because you can't call a group of folks Krauts, Negros, or Redskins.
Now if I had logged into the German Team message board, then I'd be an arsehole.
Well I still might be an arsehole, but you know them NYers. You gotta go to Mass. to find a bigger arsehole than a NYer.
Anyway, krauts is out of date, and if there is anyone here who does less to fulfill the stereotype of the mindless kraut ready to fight whoever his Kaiser or Fuhrer deems an enemy of the state, it would be DFH.
Sehr gut, Freund Don!
Is there the same issue with, say, people being referred to as patriots who don't root for Brady and Belichik?
I had previously thought that mostly only those south of the mason dixon or north of our northern border would take offense at being referred to as Yank, but now I'm starting to wonder! :-)
At least he didn't go with Nazi!
My German great-grandfather called himself that...
Also Sauerkraut is a god-awful condiment and no one should ever be subjected to it, least of all called it.
I will most definitely be eating much of it this weekend, because I made a huge batch of bratwurst. And yes I boil them in beer which not only makes them taster better, it cooks out a majority of the fat, so they are healthy brats. To be clear, not healthy, but healthy in terms of brats.
Fun Factoid, in Houston there is 4 or 5 Ethiopian restaurants at any given time. There is exactly one German restaurant, which I have gone to twice, and IMO two times too many. I am not down with most German food and judging by the restaurant selection, no one else is.
But I love brats and kraut.
Good thing I can work numbers, because my spelling/grammar skills are worthy of first position, ditch digger extraordinaire.
There are a couple in the top rows from the amazing film Seven Beauties where she, dressed in boxer shorts a wife beater and boots (and riding crop and cigar) makes Giancarlo Giannini eat brats and sauerkraut from a bowl on the floor.
So he has the energy to make love to her.
Amazing. I was honored to call Shirley a good friend in the years before her death in 1999. I got to know her when I was living in NY. I miss her.
We got beer, we don't have good food. The spice palette is cheese, butter, salt, and pepper.
and warm beer is yummy
And in another shout out to my hometown, Flessel's had the best till she served her last plate in 1998. So many memories in that fine establishment.
"a rude welcome ... terribly disappointing"
1 of 5 starsReviewed December 1, 2013
My girlfriend and I stopped in Mammoth Springs on the day after Thanksgiving. Looking for a place for lunch, we decided on La Pastorella because it looked interesting, inviting, and -- with its advertisement of "international comfort food" -- welcoming. Boy, we could not have been more incorrect. From the moment we walked in the door, we received the rudest treatment that I can remember EVER getting at a restaurant (and, having traveled extensively, I have been to a lot of eateries). Instead of greeting us and welcoming us to her establishment, the woman I assume to be one of the owners took a look at an empty coffee cup I was looking to discard and barked that no outside food or drink were allowed. We should have turned around right then. But, though taken aback, we took our seats. Then an older gentleman (another owner?) who waited on us grudgingly returned my greeting before telling my girlfriend she couldn't get tap water only bottled water and telling me that it was impossible for them to make half-n-half (half sweet, half unsweetened) tea. Mind you, there was no apology offered for either ... like the woman, he rather snarled these retorts at us. And, at that point, with some parting observations that we had no intention of spending money in a place that treated customers so rudely, we departed. Leaving, I will add, only one other customer in the restaurant.
German, Irish and Native American mostly.
Who knows, tho? Times & attitudes change. Since I graduated from youthful loathing of beets to like (actually, loving) beets today, all things are possible in the food department.
Our defense continues to play outstanding futbol. Don't give the other team a chance to score, and they won't score. That German PK could have gone badly for us. I was stunned that Sasic missed that PK for Germany.
That O'Hara goal was so sweet. And have I mentioned how much I like Carli Lloyd?
I do not understand all the criticism of coach Jill Ellis that I keep reading. Looks like she has coached this team right into the World Cup final. What more do people want from her?
The U.S. team has such a deep bench that I am optimistic about the future of this team, beyond this World Cup. I think the U.S. women in a very good place for both Sunday's final game and the future.
And, yes, beating England at their own game would be delightful, but so would winning out over the Japanese to whom we lost the last World Cup.
GO, USA Women!!!!!!
On the defensive side, what's to question...total domination.
Ryan Bowling, Zea's father, captured the incredible confrontation on video, which he's posted to YouTube. Both the photo and the video have since gone viral.
This first grader's quiet yet determined public defiance of such hatred and bigotry actually speaks volumes about the vile and contemptible nature of the anti-LGBT crowd, much more so than several thousand comments to that effect on TalkLeft and elsewhere could ever do.
What would Jesus do? I think Zea just showed us. She was courageous, and we should be proud of her.
The most disturbing thing I found was many of the comments left by so-called readers. I say "so-called" because it seems few actually read the article before going off on rants about WaPo being racist and anti-cop.
Further, if you track such things, you'll find that a great deal of the right-wing commentary at these sites tends to be posted by the same people, such as "tommythek50" at the Los Angeles Times, who'll sometimes plant upwards of 50-60 per day throughout that paper's online edition. He'll invariably find some way to bash Democrats and rage on the Times as a liberal tool -- even if it's in an otherwise benign article about a recent mountain lion sighting in Topanga Canyon.
That sort of online behavior, especially in newspaper sites that have a paywall, has always fueled my sneaking suspicion that posters like "tommythek50" are likely paid trolls.
I would love to be a fly on Preibus' wall though or own the store carrying antacids where all the Republican elite shop.
Jeb ( takes a week to answer a Fox soft ball question on Iraq), Rubio ( gets same quiz after Bush, but does not understand the question, yesteryear's man, aka, the world's oldest young man), Walker (who can deal with ISIS because he knocked off those terrorist teachers' retirements, the college-challenged governor has seen the enemy and it is the University), Jindal (who has exorcist as well as a poor governance experiences, Pledges to get rid of the SC to save money), Cruz (an institutional bomb-thrower, anti-gay, but some of his best donors are gay), Huckabee (hawks nostrums for the sick, on the trail against Satan, and after gays), Santorum (loser II, old face, new sweater vest), Rand (sane/insane, depending), Christie (bridgegate, liar extraordinaire, governance challenged, a getting old, bully is me persona), Carly Fiorina (how not to succeed in business after trying), Ben Carson (like Trump, no public offices held, both cut-ups.)
Seems to me that Trump fits in just fine All naturals behind the wheel of the clown car. Each trying to distinguish themselves. But, only a difference with a few distinctions.
You should read some polling on what the beliefs of the GOP are. It's like looking at cult findings.
I almost hope they do elect him. He's the perfect face for the cause.
How a conservative billionaire is moving Heaven and Earth to become the biggest alternative energy giant in the country
A pretty long read (but from a left leaning publication), but well worth it.
Why do people believe myths about the Confederacy? Because our textbooks and monuments are wrong
Bill Gates is also going to be giving $2 billion to alternative energy development in the next five years.
The environment needs all the friends it can get.
In our solar system, the Earth is the only planet that experiences this phenomenon. And as we do not know about moons in other system, astronomers can only estimate how rare this phenomenon is. But it's rare, you need a moon that appears as the same size in the sky as the star, but it has to orbit in a way in which the moon crosses between the host planet and the star. And lastly, the system has to be a one star system.
With around 175 moons and 8 planets in our solar system, this only happens to the one. That is not to say, moons don't cross between the planet and the sun, but most are specs and in no way block out the entire sun.
The ratios are so tight, that in all of the Universe, we may be the only life forms privy to a solar eclipse. That is my opinion only.
You're in for a real treat.
Seriously, though, I was a big fan of AMC's "The Killing" as it ran though its first storyline, which revolved around the tragic murder of a 17-year-old Seattle high school girl and the reverberating effect that crime had upon most everyone who was even remotely connected to it.
As a limited series, it worked to near-perfection from premiere to finale, with the victim's family finally gaining much-needed closure, while the Seattle police detective who finally cracked that case (played with aplomb by Merielle Enos) apparently walks away from her job for good, thoroughly disillusioned and emotionally wrung out by her searing experience.
Had AMC been content to just leave it there, it had something of which everyone could be very proud. Instead, that network decided to resurrect "The Killing" with an entirely new storyline, which just didn't have that same unnerving verve of the original. Because while it retained the first storyline's dark sense of foreboding, that sense often became almost unbearably suffocating during the second go-round.
The show ultimately became so bogged down with its characters' depression and angst -- compounded, no doubt, by the interminable rainfall that always seemed to plague them whenever they dared to venture outside -- that it left me wondering why the Seattle Police Dept.'s entire detective's division wasn't committed to a psych ward and placed on collective suicide watch.
I'll watch "Fargo" regardless, because I trust that the Coen brothers won't let that show's plot and setting devolve into a similarly hopeless caricature.
I personally do not think that when it comes down to it, that anything he said is out of line with what most of the candidates are thinking when it comes to immigrants - or building a wall on the border.
So he said out loud what most of them are soft-shoeing around.
There are a few things, however, that Trump mentioned in his tirade of an announcement that were of interest to me.
The first one is the treatment of veterans.
They have been shamefully treated for decades. And they still are. The wait for treatment is an affront to decency, imo, and gives the lie to the supposed "thanks" and "honor" that the pols robotically bestow upon them a few times a year.
Trump mentioned them twice during his announcement.
I do not recall any of the other candidates addressing this issue.
The other thing that I think is worth considering is Trump's interest and strong advocacy of renewing our infrastructure.
Infrastructure is, in my opinion, one of the most direct ways in which we experience the extent to which our government is interested in our well-being.
Safe roads and bridges.
Rebuilding and servicing our inner cities.
I would like infrastructure to be brought front and center and addressed by all of the candidates.
His style was different as well - and even a bit refreshing.
He spoke in a stream of consciousness way - a real contrast to the scripted and careful speak of the rest. And I did enjoy that he didn't do that god-awful thing of interjecting little pat phrases into every five sentences with the manipulating cadences meant to elicit applause.
Trump does not appear to me to be worse than the others on the Republican side - but seems to be the designated clown. And as far as foreign policy is concerned, he doesn't seem to be more dangerous than - say - McCain - who is not treated nearly as derisively.
I personally will look forward to seeing him in a debate with Jeb and the others. They will have to try to differentiate themselves from his positions - and I think they will have a devil of a time doing so.
"Whether it is we are going to cut Social Security, because that's what they are saying," he continued. "Every Republican wants to do a big number on Social Security, they want to do it on Medicare, they want to do it on Medicaid. And we can't do that. And it's not fair to the people that have been paying in for years and now all of the sudden they want to be cut."
No applause there. Know your audience, man.
No applause there. Know your audience, man.
The more businesses dump him the higher his numbers go.
Brown's approval allows the measure to take effect immediately, which prompted an embarrassing public meltdown from anti-vaxxer Jim Carrey, who really should stick to slapstick comedy -- or at least, not channel his "Dumb and Dumber" character during discussions about matters of public health policy.