Are any a dealbreaker for you?

that would be "obama for president".

i always (obviously foolishly) like to think the most qualified person is being nominated, by the democrats, to be the person with their finger on the button. since that clearly (at least right now) isn't the case, the matter of vp is moot.

ok, unless he can convince god or his son, jesus, to run with him as vp. i might be convinced to vote for him. but only then!

If Joe Biden, Chuck Hagel or career prosecutor turned Governor Janet Napolitano make the grade, I'll be rethinking my support the Democratic ticket.

 Hagel I would understand.  Originally I thought he might be a great Republican to ask to join the ticket, but now I think that would be unwise.  But I won't kick Democratic candidates to the curb like that.  Biden and Napolitano are not my first choices, but they'd hardly convince me to toss my vote away or vote GOP.

Clinton: only one who might make me rethink my nonvote with any seriousness

Wes Clark: the worshipfulness the last few days of posts makes me nervous, but if TLers from all sides of the river like and respect him, I might go there.

Schweitzer: hmmm, interesting

Richardson: never, after seeing him on a national stage, he just needs to get off it

Biden:  never, never, never, I still remember his spinelessness during the Anita Hill hearings combined with his 'No one has done more for women than I have' bleating (and you all thought Obama invented that, heh)

Webb:  Tailhook, no deal.

Sibelius:  sorry, been slapped in the face a few too many times already

Hagel & Daschle -- dealsmashers, more like.

He could pick Mother Theresa as a running mate and he'd have problems.  

Garbage List:
Biden
and Sebelius.

Good List
Webb,
Clark,
Brown and
Clinton.

Brown voted in favor of the bill in early October, four weeks before he won his Senate seat with 56% of the vote. It was not a close election.

The Military Commissions Act provided for the suspension of habeas corpus and retroactive criminal immunity for anyone who had violated certain prohibitions against the abuse of military detainees.

Folks, what is it going to take for you to make a stand against these ruthless self-promoters? The guy would vote to rescind the 13th Amendment which outlaws slavery if he thought it would assure him an election victory.

I mainly vote top of the ticket so for me no VP will result in me automatically voting for Obama. It is up to him to give me reasons to vote for him. So far, he is managing to give me more reasons not to vote for him.  At the moment, I would be more inclined not to vote the top of the ticket.

Obama has mentioned Lincoln and the whole "team of rivals" concept.  Combine that with his vision of what "not politics as usual" means, and you get: Hagel.

I think this list is B.S.  I don't think that Hagel is being considered in any real way.  He is being floated out there as a way to show how much Obama likes Republicans.   I've seen this happen many times in the past but I can't think of a single time that the VP and Pres were not from the same party, at least in the past 130 years.

Dascle is also bogus.  Very likely Chief of Staff but certainly not VP.  That would make no sense whatsoever.

I agree that Nelson should be on the list.  I don't have a problem with Ed Rendell but I don't know if he brings anything to the table for Obama.

Jim Webb: would be strong on military issues, but on most everything else, he is to the right of Obama, and since Obama is more to the right than I think a Democratic nominee should be, it does nothing to reassure me that core Dem principles will be on the agenda.  President Webb?  Not so sure about that.

Hillary Clinton: the only one that will bring tons of Clinton supporters into the fold.  Puts health care firmly on the table.  Would be great for "women's" issues.  She's strong on national security.  WOuld pull him more to the left - which a lot of Dems would like.  President Clinton?  Abso-freakin'-lutely.

Bill Richardson - never.  President Richardson?  Excuse me while I throw up.

Joe Biden - tons of foreign policy cred, but too much like having Dad in the car while you learn how to drive.  Foot-in-mouth problem: guaranteed to offend everyone at some point.  President Biden?  If McCain's too old, so is Biden.

Brian Schwietzer:  Has governing experience, but young to the point where it might look like we are running the country with no adult supervision.  Seems practical and solid, but maybe a little too on the conservative side.  President Schweitzer?  Who the heck knows?

Janet Napolitano: don't know enough about her, governing experience a plus, but no strengths in areas where Obama is weak. Too big a target for the how-come-she's-still-single attacks that we know ahe will get.  President Napolitano?  See President Schweitzer, above.

Sherrod Brown: haven't felt the same way about him since he voted for the Military Commissions Act.  No real experience where Obama needs help.  President Brown?  I don't think so.

Chuck Hagel: He's a Republican.  Slap in the face to Democrats, strong on defense but nothing about him says "Democrat."  President Hagel?  That would be ironic - the Dem VP runs as a Republican in 2016.  Opens the door wide for Clinton, but maybe too late for that.

Wesley Clark: strong military cred, smart, but another "Dad" for Obama to have along for the ride.  No symbiosis here for me.  President Clark?  Why not?

Kathleen Sebelius: if we can stay awake long enough to hear what she has to say, she would bring actual governing experience to the table, but not much more.  She's a woman - but so what?  President Sebelius?  I don't think so.

Tom Daschle:  Never.  No way.  Nope.  Leaves me cold.  President Daschle?  Ugh.

Michael Bloomberg:  Come on - this is just ridiculous.  If Obama wants him, we need to cut Obama loose from the Democratic party and let him run on the Unity '08 ticket.  President Bloomberg?  Yeah, right.

The others -- blech.

Deal breakers -- Hagel, for sure. If I want to vote Republican, I'd vote McCain. If Nunn creeps back onto someone's list, I would not consider voting for the ticket with him as veep.

If he picks Biden, I'm going to expect Biden to get tossed under the bus eventually--Joe's known to get carried away sometimes.

I'd be very, very disappointed with a Richardson pick and none too pleased with Webb.  Sebelius and Napolitano would be unacceptable to me.

It may be something she may want to take as time is not on her side and if they win she would be the first female VP. It is a dicey game of course. If Obama loses and she is not on the ticket, of course she would be good for 2012 as he would be done.

What he did to the Clintons was disgusting on so many levels but it showed me just how little morals the man has. He went on television and said that if you were, Hispanic or a Governor then you should vote how your constituents decided. Well, Hillary won the Hispanic vote across the country and in his state along with winning the primary. What does he say when he's confronted with his own words? He says Hillary only won by a thousand votes and that her campaign was negative and Barack's speech on race was awesome.

I started out the primary conflicted because I wanted Hillary and I want Richardson. Eventually Hillary won my vote and loyalty Richardson earned my disdain and ire.

Are loyalty oaths in now?

Ask your guy Obama. He is making a point of driving Democrats--longstanding, loyal Democrats like John Lewis--out of the party by setting up primary challenges to them. Why? Because they supported Hillary during the primary, and because they did not fall quickly enough into line to worship at the Messiah's feet now that he's the presumptuous, er, presumptive one. Some of these people, like Lewis, have been at the forefront of the issues Obama supposedly cares about from before he even thought about running for office, but insufficient loyalty to the Messiah is apparently grounds for being bullied and purged from the party. So ask him about loyalty oaths.

What Richardson did, the way he did it, was unconscionable, but Obama has a penchant for encouraging his supporters to be especially nasty, and for looking for ways to foment anger and hurt feelings (see Patty Solis Doyle, and the timing of the Edwards endorsement). Sure, it's politics, but it isn't necessary and it certainly reveals something unwholesome and unattractive.

I like Wes Clark, but I'd have to think about that one.  

1. vote for Obama even if he has a crappy VP
   
2. don't vote, which is the same as a vote for mccain
   
3. vote for mccain.

If Joe Biden, Chuck Hagel or career prosecutor turned Governor Janet Napolitano make the grade, I'll be rethinking my support the Democratic ticket.

Sherrod Brown would be all sorts of fun for me. I don't expect it to happen, though.

"Wesley Clark, a key military adviser for Barack Obama"

That makes Clark a formal member of the Obama campaign.

when someone, in whatever field, helps you out, stabbing them in the back is considered gauche. they don't own you, but you do owe them the courtesy of knifing them from the front.

bill richardson, in his treatment of sen. clinton, displayed all the characteristics that explain why he's forever going to be a "C" list politician, at best.

Also, Richardson is the only one of that top tier who wouldn't appear to be stronger than Obama.  I believe Obama's advisors will be careful to choose someone who won't make Obama look weak, and that this will be more important to them than experience, military service, economic expertise, etc.

True or false, that's their story.  (In fact, Richardson's reaction made it pretty clear the story is true.)  That's why they call him names for going back on his word.

I know Biden voted "for the war" because I sat screaming at the TV when after authorizing the use of force he went on and on that he really hoped Bush would not use force....DUH! Of course Bush was going to go right to war on this.

But like Clinton, he voted for it under the delusional hope that W would not use it as an excuse to go ahead and attack.

Re: McCain's bloodlust - no doubt true.