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By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:13:49 PM EST
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Too funny. Keith "Obama's O'Reilly" Olbermann goes to the Big Orange Satan's site to whine that Clinton went on Fox. Apparently he missed his eternal love Barack Obama's Fox News Sunday appearance. Paul Krugman did not.

Obama's O'Reilly is now as big a joke as the original. Can we rule out the possibility that he will lead with the Kantor video story? Not entirely. And no, he will not accuse the Obama campaign of being behind it, as he would if the shoe was on the other foot. For the record, Obama was NOT behind it imo and it would be irresponsible for any journalist to even speculate about it. And yes, Olbermann is an irresponsible journalist who HAS speculated in irresponsible fashion in this way when it comes to Hillary Clinton. Remember PassportGate?

By Big Tent Democrat, speaking for me only.

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    Obama's O'Reilly Whines | 209 comments (209 topical)
    It's a ridiculous whine (5.00 / 10) (#3)
    by andgarden on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:20:09 PM EST
    And actually, it's unprofessional.

    Olbermann's just jealous (5.00 / 2) (#93)
    by Josey on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:10:56 PM EST
    Didn't Hillary's Fox interview generate lots of viewers?


    [ Parent ]
    best ratings all year (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:12:39 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    O'Reilly Beat Olbermann In Ratings By 668 (5.00 / 6) (#114)
    by MO Blue on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:16:13 PM EST
    That was 283 better than on the previous night.

    Olbermann is a WATB and is no better than those he so righteously criticizes.

    [ Parent ]

    And what's (5.00 / 7) (#180)
    by cal1942 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:38:28 PM EST
    even more ridiculous is that Obama pandered to the Fox crowd while Hillary stood her ground and put it in O'Reilly's face.

    KO and the rest of the Obama crowd neither recognize nor admit reality. even when it bites them in the arse.

    [ Parent ]

    Dean is going on Fox (5.00 / 4) (#4)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:21:39 PM EST
    this Sunday morning.

    CDS (both meanings: derangement and (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by andgarden on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:22:25 PM EST
    double standard).

    [ Parent ]
    Bad decision imo (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:24:47 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    Indeed, but is it (5.00 / 4) (#13)
    by andgarden on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:26:05 PM EST
    more pathetic and revelatory than it is outrageous.
    ???

    heh.

    [ Parent ]

    Obama's O'Reilly is an Open Book now (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:31:43 PM EST
    No need for further revelations from him.

    [ Parent ]
    Olbermann's post sure is (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by ruffian on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:45:55 PM EST
    Not sure about Obama's trip to FOX

    [ Parent ]
    I honestly think its time to end (5.00 / 4) (#57)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:54:28 PM EST
    the boycott FOX thing.
    FOX is just as reputable as MSNBC or CNN.  
    in fact there is an argument to be made they are more reliable in their reporting.
    if they appear on those there is no logical reason for them to not appear on FOX.

    [ Parent ]
    and yes (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:55:26 PM EST
    I would bet my next paycheck he will lead with the story.


    [ Parent ]
    So, why not boycott Countdown? (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Chimster on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:00:06 PM EST
    If KO were truthful in his assaults on the Clintons, I wouldn't mind. But he's spewing slanderous propaganda against half of his own party? Why isn't this clown being boycotted? Fox is fine with me for the moment, because they are offering millions of voters a chance to see a Dem candidate they would otherwise never pay attention to.

    A boycott would AT THE LEAST draw attention to KO's bias and self-party trashing. We could claim he's helping divide the Dems. And if you really want to make a dent, boycott his advertisers. That's where you can hurt Olbermann the most.

    [ Parent ]

    I have been for weeks now. (4.66 / 3) (#151)
    by mrjerbub on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:50:06 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    i do (none / 0) (#183)
    by jedimom on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:46:46 PM EST
    i have been boycotting MSNBC for weeks now too
    I tuned in exactly once to see Hillary on Obamamann

    [ Parent ]
    MSNBC deserves it, but... (none / 0) (#202)
    by Chimster on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:39:03 PM EST
    We don't have a leg to stand on against MSNBC if there are Hillary supporters on that channel (Scarborough for instance). It's best to focus on a specific target. A specific goal. Countdown. It's much easier to boycott televison advertisers when it's a TV show rather than an entire network.

    And "not watching" is not the same as boycotting. Literally, writing to the advertisers, and telling them that you will not use their product, and will warn others not to purchase the advertiser's product because of the way Keith Olbermann has attacked his own party falsely. We will not stand for his slander, and will not purchase any goods or services from advertisers that promote his lies and vicious attacks.

    [ Parent ]

    Scarborough a "supporter"? (none / 0) (#207)
    by angie on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:51:38 PM EST
    I don't know about going that far -- he is a Repub. after all.  The difference between him an Tweety, KO, et al is that he hasn't bought into the idea that Obama is THE ONE and thus, can give credit where credit is due -- ie, admiring Hillary for her "toughness." Also, I think he is kind of mocking (in a funny way) the journalists who are in the tank for Obama.  

    [ Parent ]
    I, and everyone I know (none / 0) (#190)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:01:36 PM EST
    who used to watch Olbermann stopped after his pandering to Obama on the first Rev Wright event followed by his slapping across the face commentary against Hillary.  He has absolutely nothing of value to contribute to serious news.

    [ Parent ]
    I, and everyone I know (none / 0) (#191)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:02:38 PM EST
    who used to watch Olbermann stopped after his pandering to Obama on the first Rev Wright event followed by his slapping across the face commentary against Hillary.  He has absolutely nothing of value to contribute to serious news.

    [ Parent ]
    I agree (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by Manuel on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:13:28 PM EST
    The boycott is self defeating.  If people go on Fox and take on their arguments at least viewers will see that there is another rational side.  Not to mention that it shows courage.  We should, of course, insist that guests be treated with respect.  Both Obama and Clinton were treated respectfully.  Fox is a media company, they will change their attitude if it helps them expand their audience.

    [ Parent ]
    in a hopey, changey world... (none / 0) (#196)
    by kimsaw on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:13:05 PM EST
    we're all winners- right? Why can't we all just get along? Seriously, it was stupid not to show up on Fox, the other news networks play their bias in the open just as much, if not more. Olbermann is as bombastic as O'Reilly. Hannity is hard to stomach, but if Colmes was Clinton that would be a show!

    I used to watch Olbermann all the time. He has gone off the deep end. He lacks credibility and is part a of a vast digital waste land. I did watch Clinton on Countdown.  I thought that Olbermann feigned respect in a tense yet reserved voice when Clinton was interviewed.

    At least O'Reilly's interview was less stressed in tone, respectful and engaging with Clinton. It was fun to watch.

    [ Parent ]

    there's never been a Fox boycott here (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by Jeralyn on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:22:46 PM EST
    I've appeared on their network for the past 10 years and will continue to do so. I watch their shows.  I have gotten to know many of the anchors and producers and reporters personally and I like almost all of them.

    [ Parent ]
    didnt mean you (none / 0) (#130)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:30:28 PM EST
    but in left blogistan more broadly.

    [ Parent ]
    Tragic words (5.00 / 2) (#181)
    by lambert on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:41:12 PM EST
    "FOX is just as reputable as MSNBC or CNN. "

    Sigh. I agree.

    [ Parent ]

    that ship has sailed (5.00 / 2) (#110)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:15:52 PM EST
    They're all going on Fox now.  Fox wins this round.

    The best we can hope for is that Dean will not join Nancy and dismiss the Unity Ticket idea.  It will prove he doesn't care about winning this election.

    [ Parent ]

    All they had to do (none / 0) (#192)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:05:22 PM EST
    was sit back and wait until viewers got tired of the MSNBC switch from balanced to biased.

    [ Parent ]
    will you be writing about it on DKos? (none / 0) (#85)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:07:20 PM EST
    It's an idea.

    [ Parent ]
    Oh Noes! (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Lahdee on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:25:43 PM EST
    There'll be palpitations in O land.

    [ Parent ]
    Confusion (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by MaryGM on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:24:35 PM EST
    As a Clinton supporter, I'm obviously not going to cheer a diary like that.  But I like to consider myself pretty far from the kind of cognitive dissonance that a diary like that requires.

    I read it twice, trying to understand exactly where this man is coming from.  I can't.  And my own biases may not be helping, but how can anyone with even an ounce of sense not read that and think anything less than, "HOW are you a journalist?"  And for the love of God HOW is it OK for Obama to do it but horrific if Clinton does?

    He is NOPT a journalist (5.00 / 6) (#9)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:25:24 PM EST
    He is Obama's O'Reilly.

    [ Parent ]
    There are few journalists left, anywhere (5.00 / 5) (#47)
    by NotThatStupid on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:47:54 PM EST
    At least, not going by the definition I learned in the journalism classes I took in college.

    Journalists tell you what happened, not what you are supposed to think about it.

    [ Parent ]

    It's all about the meta (5.00 / 2) (#182)
    by lambert on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:43:22 PM EST
    Meta-leadership, meta-journalism.

    [ Parent ]
    KO is no O'reilly (5.00 / 2) (#160)
    by felizarte on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:07:24 PM EST
    that would be giving KO credit he does not deserve.  O'reilly has acted more professionally than him in his treatment of Clinton.  O'reilly took her on and conducted a healthy debate with her.  KO, could not confront Clinton on issues; just attacked her after she was gone.

    [ Parent ]
    Pappa Bear's Understudy. (none / 0) (#19)
    by Salo on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:31:54 PM EST
    ...sounds about right.

    [ Parent ]
    Never understood (none / 0) (#49)
    by Stellaaa on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:48:46 PM EST
    his daily obsession with O'Reilly.  Why did he have to have something about him every day?  

    [ Parent ]
    Only one at a time (none / 0) (#194)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:09:05 PM EST
    Now that he's obsessed with Hillary, and the world is getting so tired of hearing people bash one another, KO has lost all credibility.

    I did read that Aaron Brown is coming back to TV, PBS, I think.  His opinion is that KO is better than BO'R.  I think Aaron needs to watch a few more recent shows.

    [ Parent ]

    This is what some people have been (5.00 / 5) (#15)
    by pie on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:29:19 PM EST
    saying all along.  We've learned some very hard lessons and viewed some very uncomfortable realities in this campaign.  We've been shaken to our very core.

    If we emerge from it stronger and better, it's all good.

    [ Parent ]

    Did O'Reilly's ratings (5.00 / 5) (#10)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:25:35 PM EST
    when Hillary appeared have anything to do with the whining? -- where O'Reilly's ratings nearly doubled in the demo? and crashed Olbermann's ratings.

    Link

    Gee, you'd think people would be whining about Hillary going on Olbermann's show.  It's a much more unfriendly place for Democrats than Fox News.  It's certainly unfriendly for me!  Olbermann is such an a*s.

    Democrats should have no loyalty to Olbermann.

    The fact that the video came from Drudge (5.00 / 3) (#12)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:25:46 PM EST
    should immediately demonstrate its obvious lack of credibility. Obviously, it was a right-wing attack on Senator Clinton because Drudge is a right-wing hack.

    Duh.

    Democrats used to know who, and what, Drudge was.

    My world is upside-down and backwards these days.

    Democrats? (5.00 / 2) (#193)
    by cal1942 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:07:46 PM EST
    "Democrats used to know who, and what, Drudge was"

    Who says these people are actual Democrats.  The Boyz include at least two "former" Republicans, at least one DLCer and three who supported the invasion of Iraq.

    [ Parent ]

    Forensics (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Stellaaa on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:27:44 PM EST
    I hope that some responsible journalist or Kantor gets some lawyers and nail whoever did this.  It makes me sick.  This viral use of the internet is getting out of hand.  

    He insults Edward R. Murrow (5.00 / 5) (#17)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:31:38 PM EST
    By posting that diary on Daily Kos, Keith just crapped all over Murrow's memory and the profession of "journalism"

    I know we've come to expect a lot of horribly unhinged and biased behavior from MSNBC but even I am surprised at how far he went with that diary.

    He just couldn't help himself, could he? Had to post that hypocritical rant while the rabidic foam was still bubbling.

    What hypocrisy from him and anyone at Daily Kos who piles on when their own candidate just finished doing the same thing!

    MSNBC (5.00 / 3) (#27)
    by Salo on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:37:23 PM EST
    hae proven their hostility to Dems Not Named Obama.

    [ Parent ]
    They tingle and they mingle (5.00 / 3) (#95)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:11:27 PM EST
    why can't Obama just be single?

    [ Parent ]
    Clinging (5.00 / 3) (#104)
    by Stellaaa on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:13:35 PM EST
    while tingling, oh my.  

    [ Parent ]
    everybody now! (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:16:28 PM EST
    join in

    [ Parent ]
    Is "rabbidic foam" even a phrase? (5.00 / 3) (#79)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:04:44 PM EST
    I just looked it up on Google and realized it wasn't.  Sorry about that Keith, but he should be flattered that he's adding words to my dictionary because his behavior is becoming hard to describe.

    [ Parent ]
    LOL! (5.00 / 1) (#89)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:08:31 PM EST
    diet cream soda => keyboard

    [ Parent ]
    sounds like (5.00 / 5) (#100)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:12:34 PM EST
    some sort of galactic cloud where rabbis are formed.

    [ Parent ]
    Oh my GOD... lol!!!!!! (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:18:57 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    The Power of the Schwartz (5.00 / 5) (#142)
    by Salo on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:44:05 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    I wish I could give you extra upratings (5.00 / 2) (#163)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:09:08 PM EST
    for the SpaceBalls reference!

    LOL x 47,000!

    [ Parent ]

    Space Balls! (5.00 / 2) (#184)
    by cal1942 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:52:04 PM EST
    Always happy to be in the company of Mel Brooks fans.

    [ Parent ]
    I read one paragraph. (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by MarkL on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:35:56 PM EST
    Could have been written by TINS.

    heh (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by Turkana on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:40:27 PM EST
    at least kagro has the integrity to post about both candidates sucking up to faux. but how fair and balanced of keith.

    they have to now (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by Salo on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:44:11 PM EST
    Obama does especially,  after Wright crippled his public image as a centrist.

    [ Parent ]
    no question (5.00 / 3) (#52)
    by Turkana on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:50:26 PM EST
    and i've written that i don't blame obama for doing it. i'm not happy about any of them doing it, but he's in serious damage control mode. what most amused me, though, was that he held out his having been criticized on "the daily kos" as proof that he's no crazy liberal.

    [ Parent ]
    A bit OT, but I am so angry (5.00 / 3) (#109)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:15:30 PM EST
    at these gutless politicians who allowed the word "liberal" to become a slur.

    It won't be rehabilitated, IMHO, till we start investing in the liberal agenda again, then calling it what it is. Universal health care? Liberal. Investing in science and renewable energy and jobs and infrastructure? Liberal.

    Once we show how well the liberal agenda works for America, how scary will it continue to be?

    [ Parent ]

    Balanced Budget (5.00 / 3) (#152)
    by themomcat on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:51:40 PM EST
    and deficit reduction....Liberal.

    / "By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes." Macbeth, Wm. Shakespeare
    [ Parent ]
    social security, medicare, medicaid (5.00 / 3) (#162)
    by Turkana on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:08:13 PM EST
    civil rights, voting rights, environmental protection... LIBERAL!

    [ Parent ]
    liberal (5.00 / 2) (#185)
    by jedimom on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:52:30 PM EST
    neighborhood reinvestment act making home loans to low income workers-liberal

    [ Parent ]
    Any Big Orange commenters point out (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by LHinSeattle on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:46:03 PM EST
    to KO that BHO was on Fox too?  

    Too averse myself to go over and check.

    Where's Hillary's O'Reilly? (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Chimster on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:47:12 PM EST
    Instead of attacking Olbermann, which I must admit has become my favorite pastime, can't we get a pro-Hillary pundit (assuming there must be one--Abramson?) to blog here and unfairly attack Obama? Heck, they don't even have to be Democratic at this point (Joe Scarborough). Anything to help create a narrative that contradicts Olbermann's insane bias against Hillary.

    Hee! (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:11:26 PM EST
    A funny idea. But unfair attacks are not countenanced here.

    That's why me lurve TalkLeft.

    [ Parent ]

    the funny thing is (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:16:12 PM EST
    the closest thing to this can be found on FOX these days simply because the report the actual news without the "how to get Hillary out of the race" crap.
    I swear I almost pulverized my teevee the other night while watching Joke Line with that ditsy CNN prime time woman talking about "what it would take to get Hillary out of the race".

    the decided it would take and IED.  
    now, can you imagine what would happen if they said that about the Prince?

    [ Parent ]

    Edward R Murrow (5.00 / 2) (#50)
    by mmc9431 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:49:08 PM EST
    If he has any relatives that care about his reputation, they should insist that KO quits quoting him. KO is definitely no Murrow.

    I see little (5.00 / 3) (#53)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:50:40 PM EST
    difference between Fox and MSNBC.  As far as I'm concerned, those who think they're different are trapped in old school thinking.

    MSNBC HATES Hillary.  Fox Hates Hillary, but less so.  Both are destructive to Democrats, but MSNBC wants to divide Democrats, thereby destroy Democrats.

    What's different?

    I posted this at KOS (5.00 / 3) (#59)
    by flashman on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:55:15 PM EST
    Dear Keith,

    I was once a loyal fan.  I was in since the earliest days of "Countdown."  I once thought of you as a fair broker of news and information.  But that was before you went completely in the tank for Obama.  You're vile hatred for all things Clinton has contaminated your show, and rendered you no longer objective or honest.  It was a shame to see you devolve to nothing more than another cable political hack.  You've become a joke in many netroot circles; only here is the utterance of you name not be greeted with a mixture of snickers and groans.  I hope you will be cancelled soon.

    I'll bet you (none / 0) (#157)
    by themomcat on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:04:20 PM EST
    that your comment went to HC in record time and got trounced further by TU's. :-)
    / "By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes." Macbeth, Wm. Shakespeare
    [ Parent ]
    Naw. (5.00 / 1) (#176)
    by Fabian on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:29:18 PM EST
    But someone got smacked down for dissing Maya Angelou.  They do have some kind of standards there.  

    [ Parent ]
    Good to know (none / 0) (#179)
    by themomcat on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:35:49 PM EST
    they haven't totally lost perspective. I haven't been there in weeks.
    / "By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes." Macbeth, Wm. Shakespeare
    [ Parent ]
    Rewriting history (5.00 / 9) (#63)
    by Stellaaa on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:56:08 PM EST
    Hillary goes on O'Rielly and trounces him at each and every turn.  Millions watch it.  O"Reilly, huffing and puffing, thought he would demolish her and he ended up looking like the lightweight that he is.  He then does this whole thing after the interview with two women, explaining, "why he was not hard on the little woman", cause with a man, he could lean over and get in his face etc.  With a woman, he had to go soft, cause, well, it would be seen as crude.  

    Give me a break. She cleaned his clock.  

    On the other hand Obama went on Wallace's show to clean his clock and did no such thing.  

    Now, Obama's O'Reilly, tell me why you have never managed to spank O"Reilly like Hillary did?  Or for that matter no other Progressive or Democrat.  It was a breath of fresh air to watch her trounce the windbag.  

    He didn't even have the guts to spank Hillary... (5.00 / 5) (#67)
    by Maria Garcia on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:58:52 PM EST
    ...when he had her on his show. He is gutless.

    [ Parent ]
    How dumb of Keith (5.00 / 4) (#71)
    by Stellaaa on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:01:03 PM EST
    He should lead with O"Reilly having been take out to the shed by Hillary then trying to cover it up with the "I took it easy on the girl".  Shows you that when you embed with a side, you miss the news.  

    [ Parent ]
    Before the Hillary Hate, (5.00 / 4) (#121)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:21:29 PM EST
    Olbermann would have made fun of O'Really for getting beaten up by a girl.

    It would have been sexist, but funny.


    [ Parent ]

    So Keith had Hillary on... (5.00 / 7) (#64)
    by Marco21 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:57:12 PM EST
    because she needed free air time? How thoughtful of him. I am sure getting a bounce in his ratings had nothing to do with it.

    Seriously, this guy went from 0 to douche in a nanosecond. if anyone at MSNBC cared, and they don't, he'd be removed from their election lineup. His  Pennsylvania election night anchoring was shamefully partisan.

    Ratings (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by mmc9431 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:06:16 PM EST
    Maybe Olberman is doing this for the future of his show. Maybe he believes Hilary is going to win. Then he'll have story lines for 4 more years. If Obama wins he and his show will be toast. How will he be a critic of the man he's touted for the last 6 months? And his type of show survives for conflict.

    And why did she say that? (5.00 / 6) (#84)
    by Stellaaa on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:07:06 PM EST
    So that they can be taxed more.  Are you people so demented?  Did you not follow the discussion?  ARe you arguing that she said the higher income people should be taxed to what they were taxed in the 90"s.  I swear you people make me sick.  You are all a bunch of a$$ es.  

    Is Keith Obamaman serious? (5.00 / 4) (#88)
    by GOPmurderedconscience on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:08:23 PM EST
    Even if Bill O'Reilly want to write a pathetic column with a fake Keith Olbermann ID, he would not have ben able to write anything this ridiculous.

    Jesus Howard Christ!

    What was that? He rambled from Hillary Clinton's interview to Ann Coulter and took a detour to Winchell. After reading this, my question was huuuuh?

    How much deeper can this guy fall?

    I think the fact that his nemesis more than tripled his ratings with that interview must have driven Keith insane.

    OMG Another one of them post!!!! (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by feet on earth on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:08:37 PM EST
    Enough already - said and replied a million time

    Never having to admit you were wrong. (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by Radix on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:10:35 PM EST
    This is the real pleasing part of Obama. It's not your ideas that were wrong, he tells republicans and conservatives, you were betrayed by the Washington leadership.

    Because there are no facts, there is no truth, Just data to be manipulated

    Don Henley-The Garden of Allah

    It also helps (5.00 / 2) (#120)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:20:03 PM EST
    to have an magic memory eraser handy (stamped IACF!), so that you can forget every mistake Obama has made almost immediately after he makes it.

    Ah, my Kool-Aid is grape today! MmmmmMMMMmmm, grape.


    [ Parent ]

    Yawn. (5.00 / 6) (#96)
    by pie on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:11:43 PM EST
    They miss you at Kos.  Go home.

    Quite a stretch there (5.00 / 2) (#97)
    by LHinSeattle on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:12:11 PM EST
    about a clipped syllable.  That's all you've got?  

    but Obama (unlike Clinton) is too honorable to go down into the Rovian cesspool just to win the nomination.

    Ummm....   So Fox show w/Obama is OK, but Fox show w/Clinton is a cesspool, right?

    Gee (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:12:14 PM EST
    You may want to quote that text IN CONTEXT.  However, I suspect, you copied it straight from the Orange O-Propaganda machine.

    My, my, my.  I think that's all I have to say.

    Why are you so sure about Obama... (5.00 / 4) (#141)
    by dianem on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:43:45 PM EST
    ...not being behind this? It's the kind of thing Axelrod is known for. This is the campaign that accused Bill Clinton of racism when he compared Obama's campaign to that of Jesse Jackson. This is the campaign that accused Ferraro of being a racist when she said that Obama was lucky to be who he was, because a woman with his experience would not be as successful. This campaign turned the phrase "shuck and jive" into a racist insult, even though it wasn't aimed at Obama, and claimed that Clinton had insulted Martin Luther King by saying that Johnson helped pass the Civil Rights Act. Each time they accused Clinton's supporters of racism, their popularity went up.

    It would be irresponsible for the media to suggest that this came from Obama's campaign, but it is equally irresponsible to deny the possibility given the evidence that this campaign has used charges of racism in the past to defuse the impact of Clinton's supporters.  I wish I could be as sure as you are that Obama's campaign had nothing to do with this. But nearly every time a Clinton supporter comes out and gets some press, somebody finds something racist about them. Either there are a lot more racists in the Democratic Party than we had previously supposed, or "there is something rotten in Denmark".

    I'm sure that they're not (none / 0) (#159)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:06:33 PM EST
    unless it's proven that they are.

    If there's proof, I'll be wrong and happy to admit it. But better to assume innocence than guilt, IMHO.

    If this were an Obama campaign dirty trick, though, I can't say I'd be that surprised. And what a sad, sad statement that is.

    [ Parent ]

    You know what? (5.00 / 4) (#178)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:33:05 PM EST
    In the last few months I have had to face some hard truths. Am I really a Democrat? Do I want to be a democrat? I have certainly misjudged a lot of people who I thought were advocates for Democrats. It seems that somehow Obama is doing to Democrats what Bush has been doing to Republicans. I really can sympathize with some of the Republicans right now. I always like Olberman and even got people who didn't previously watch him to turn the channel. That being said, I don't watch him anymore and I don't know that the other people I sent there watch him either since they've become Hillary supporters now.

    Once again (5.00 / 1) (#200)
    by cal1942 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:29:12 PM EST
    Obama supporter can't tell the difference between elite and elitist.

    Do we have to go over all of this again.

    Additionally, her statement was in support of progressive taxation.

    But I really shouldn't expect an Obama supporter would be capable of understanding.

    Pompous Buffoon (5.00 / 1) (#209)
    by daryl herbert on Fri May 02, 2008 at 04:02:43 PM EST
    Nobody appreciates outrage about Fixed News more than do I.

    "More than do I"

    Would Walther Cronkite ever that have said?  No, would not that said, have he.

    The correct grammar, btw, is "more than me."  It's simple and to the point.  No wonder Mr. Olbermann eschewed it in favor of something wrong, long-winded, and pretentious.

    How can anyone think he is better than O'Reilly?  O'Reilly would never say "more than do I"

    I know (none / 0) (#212)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 04:13:16 PM EST
    I absolutely hated KO's bloviating style long before I hated HIM.

    He sounded like a wordy pompous a*s even when I liked him.

    [ Parent ]

    Even if it's Fox News..... (3.00 / 2) (#24)
    by aequitas on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:36:20 PM EST
    There's a considerable difference between appearing on the Sunday show and doing a laydown for a freak like O'Liely.  

    A "laydown"? (5.00 / 6) (#29)
    by Fabian on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:38:47 PM EST
    I do not know what you meant by that, but Clinton did not go on O'Reilly's show so she could fawn over him and praise his greatness.

    [ Parent ]
    It hought Billo had a bemused look on his face (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by Salo on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:41:21 PM EST
    Not so evil is she, and quite tough. Stands up for her proposals she does. Well spoken and polite. Not at all the cartoon i've built up about her.

    [ Parent ]
    She looked foolish..... (1.00 / 3) (#69)
    by aequitas on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:59:52 PM EST
    .......just being in the same frame with a clown like O'Liely.  What's next?  Rush Limbaugh?

    [ Parent ]
    As opposed to bloviating head Olbermann? (5.00 / 8) (#76)
    by rooge04 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:03:56 PM EST
    It's called having GUTS and having CHARACTER and going into ENEMY territory and making a case for yourself. Something Obama seems incapable of doing.

    [ Parent ]
    exactly (5.00 / 4) (#86)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:07:31 PM EST
    I would love to see Obama have the guts to do that.
    he thinks Georgie was mean to him?


    [ Parent ]
    "foolish" (5.00 / 11) (#77)
    by Stellaaa on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:04:13 PM EST
    You are really distorting reality and history.  Which tape did you see?  Have you ever seen any Democrat take these nuts head on helathcare, taxes, Iraq, terrorism and immigration without pandering to their prejudices?  She stood up to him.  Did you see her tax discussion about Taft?  and the history of taxes, equity?  Who looked foolish?  Only someone who could not follow the discussion who is embedded in the narrative.  

    [ Parent ]
    She'd wipe the floor with Rush (5.00 / 6) (#80)
    by LHinSeattle on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:05:34 PM EST
    and his arguments, politely, smiling the whole while.

    Probably get him to agree on her healthcare plan, and the need to fund more medical research. Into back pain.  /snark

    [ Parent ]

    I know Obama fans often like to have (5.00 / 5) (#81)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    everything their way but the fact is millions of people watch OReilly whether you like him or not.
    ignoring that fact or peeing on his audience will not change that fact or get their votes.
    the interview was good. great even.
    did you see it? it was light years better than "Obamas OReillys" interview with Hillary.

    [ Parent ]
    Why so unhappy (5.00 / 8) (#119)
    by waldenpond on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:19:41 PM EST
    today?  Is it just me or Obama supporters stressed out again?

    Myself... I'm looking foward to Tuesday with a big grin on my face and apparently I've already lost.

    What's up is down, what's down is up.  The supporters who self-proclaim to have won are unhappy, and the ones who are being told they have lost are having a great time.....

    [ Parent ]

    Obama has won (1.00 / 2) (#161)
    by aequitas on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:07:57 PM EST
    What we Obama supporters are uneasy about is Clinton taking down the party if she can't get 70% of the rest of the votes.

    [ Parent ]
    blah blah blah (5.00 / 7) (#167)
    by waldenpond on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:12:53 PM EST
    Clinton destroying the party blah blah blah

    [ Parent ]
    How boring. (5.00 / 3) (#172)
    by Marco21 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:25:10 PM EST
    Can Obama supporters come up with new talking points, please?

    My DD had a poll up yesterday showing most Americans want a Democrat running the country in the fall over a Republican by 20%. How is she destroying the party again?

    We know her continued winning paired with his continued ego-driven meltdowns make you nervous, but every state will being voting and EVERY STATE'S votes should be counted.

    If you're bothered by Democracy, I feel bad for you.

    [ Parent ]

    why has he not been acting like a winner? (none / 0) (#166)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:11:39 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    Must be... (5.00 / 3) (#173)
    by Marco21 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:25:57 PM EST
    all that recent losing he's been doing.

    [ Parent ]
    How did Obama look with Chris Wallace? (5.00 / 2) (#174)
    by Marco21 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:27:10 PM EST
    Not quite the fight he promised, was it?

    [ Parent ]
    Typical distortion (5.00 / 1) (#187)
    by cal1942 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:58:43 PM EST
    we've come to expect from the Obama people who drop in here.

    Your candidate pandered to the Fox crowd with glowing talk of charter schools, etc.

    Hillary stands up to O'Reilly, nails him on factual points and you say she laid down.

    aequitas, you can't get by here with bald faced lies.  You'll be called on it everytime.

    [ Parent ]

    Being President (5.00 / 1) (#195)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:11:38 PM EST
    means you have to sit down at the table with people of all kinds...not just the ones you approve of.

    [ Parent ]
    Exactly! "No red states, no blue states (none / 0) (#201)
    by angie on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:35:49 PM EST
    there is only the United States of America."  

    I think someone said something similar to that in, what, 2004?

    [ Parent ]

    Some of us thought (5.00 / 2) (#203)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:43:42 PM EST
    he was right about that.

    Too bad he doesn't believe his own rhetoric.


    [ Parent ]

    Clinton (5.00 / 5) (#37)
    by Stellaaa on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:44:19 PM EST
    Humiliated him.  He had to have these women afterwards to explain why he was easy on her cause she is a woman, did you watch that?  He was trying to "look macho" after he got put in his place and told a few things.  

    [ Parent ]
    "Hillarycare will destroy America" (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:47:45 PM EST
    sounds like a laydown only to an unhinged buffoon like Olbermann and his cliff jumping brigade.

    [ Parent ]
    I don't think there is (5.00 / 3) (#48)
    by ruffian on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:48:15 PM EST
    that much difference.  O'Reilly is just more obviously freakish.

    Brit Hume is more dangerous.

    [ Parent ]

    Somehow when Obama goes on O'Reilly (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:52:02 PM EST
    I bet you will rationalize that somehow too.

    [ Parent ]
    I'm beginning to think (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by pie on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:55:58 PM EST
    that some of these so-called Obama supporters are really working for McCain, because they're certainly not doing Obama any good.  In fact, they're trying to drive a deeper wedge between supporters.

    [ Parent ]
    I've thought that for a long time. (5.00 / 2) (#78)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:04:16 PM EST
    It's hard to tell who's who in the blogosphere...

    [ Parent ]
    try Ron Paul supporters (5.00 / 1) (#165)
    by diplomatic on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:10:56 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    No thanks. (5.00 / 1) (#205)
    by madamab on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:46:16 PM EST
    I've had too many close encounters of the Pauliac kind.

    One followed me to my eensy blog and proceeded to post 40-paragraph comment after 40-paragraph comment "proving" how teh awesome libertarianism is.

    I finally had to delete the poor deluded SOB.

    [ Parent ]

    You might be correct except that.... (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by Maria Garcia on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:53:27 PM EST
    ...Hillary took it to Fox whereas Obama played pattycake.  

    [ Parent ]
    She smacked O'Reilly down (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:54:08 PM EST
    In other times, Democrats would have relished that.

    [ Parent ]
    A Rollover Could Best Describe Obama's (5.00 / 6) (#122)
    by MO Blue on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:22:31 PM EST
    appearance on Fox. Who knew that Republican's had better ideas on government regulations? Of course for someone who voted in favor of Cheney's energy bill, maybe this shouldn't come as any surprise.

    [ Parent ]
    now olberman is an enemy? (1.00 / 1) (#128)
    by AgreeToDisagree on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:28:51 PM EST
    this is getting ridiculous...

    o'reily, kristol, Buchanan, Mellon Scaife are now Clinton's friends... and Kos, Richardson, Olberman, Andrew, etc. are the enemies...

    seems a little opportunistic and slightly petty.  but...

    Petty is as petty does (5.00 / 1) (#138)
    by cawaltz on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:38:10 PM EST
    Quite frankly kos and Olbermann as well as some of the others get what they deserve. I don't knowqwhere they think they get the right to determine who is "not a Democrat" but it strikes me they deserve their status as enemy if they embrace the ideathat simply because Clinton is not Obama that she is "not a Democrat." As for MSNBC I don't know any of the gentlemen they employ personally but I was less than amused with the thught to e off camera remarks of Matthews and Delayhere they took the time to show their "manliness" by belittling Clinton. I feel fairly confident in saying that MSNBC not only tolerates misogyny but by allowing behavior like that, they condone it.

    [ Parent ]
    Really? (5.00 / 3) (#140)
    by LarryInNYC on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:39:38 PM EST
    How can you seriously argue that Kos and Olberman, at least, do not consider Clinton an enemy?  Have you read or listened to anything they've said?  These are not people who simply support Obama over her for the Presidency, these are people who believe (or say they believe) all sorts of awful and generally demonstrably false things about her.

    You think that Olberman attacking her for appearing on Fox while ignoring Obama's own appearance isn't the act of a political enemy?  

    [ Parent ]

    hmmm.... (none / 0) (#153)