It's really, really the wrong message to use with women or anyone for that matter.  Sit down, shut up and vote Democratic or else!

I don't know if it's misogyny, CDS, an evil media plot or what, but I've never seen anything like it.  Even the treatment of Gore in 2000 pales in comparison.

Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, Donna Brazille, Ted Kennedy, etc., etc. are, dare I say, stupid if they thinks Hillary will slink away and subserviently bow down without fully exerting her power of 49.9% of the delegates.

I think this nation has lost its collective mind. We have learned nothing substantive from a lazy, leg tingling MSM since this campaign began. The media has turned Rovian! It continues to fail us. Hard journalism exists in snippets while everybody feeds on opinion, rather than facts. The media failed us on Iraq and questioning Obama's record and relationships. They have fawned "just words" and explored  nothing substantive. When someone does ask pertinent questions, the questioner is  attacked and those questions never get truly answered.

Obama has yet to put words into action. His race speech was not a bridge builder just a history lesson stating the facts. He offered no solutions In fact he stereotype the bitter, clinging voter. There's change for you.

Clinton states the facts and she's a racist and anyone who votes for her is too. Yet 90% of AA community voted for Obama and that's not racism in reverse. That's called identity politics.
We're  politically correct when it comes to race relations, but when it comes to gender, sexism is acceptable. Clinton is easily compared to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction by an arrogant congressman or she's called a female dog that's likable enough or her likeness can be molded into a nutcracker, but no harm done. Just imagine if that likeness were your mother, wife or daughter.  

The Dems don't want to lose the AA because they are a loyal voting block. But their leadership and Obama willingly toss out those low information white voters clinging to their guns and bibles, because they swing either way. How do you build unity without swing voters? How stable is your new coalition without winning the in betweens? Isn't the goal creating unity? If you can't build unity in a party how do you coalesce a nation? I guess there's unity and then there's Obama's unity.

The MSM and their corporate backers are nothing but lobbyist working on Obama's behalf.  We get  in return what we allow to happen. Majority rule gave us Bush and now we'll get Obama. Their strengths are based on politically fabricated hate. Divide and conquer strategies employed long ago. I totally understand why some people become apathetic, because nothing really changes in politics, the rhetorically driven divides thrive while substance dies.

Some other possible women VPs are mostly from the senate, and would leave us with a Repub gov (Blanche Lincoln, McCaskill) picking the replacement.  We can't afford to lose any Dems from the senate, and McCaskill has little experience outside of her state.

Gov Napolitano is strong, maybe a little too strong on anti-illegal immigration, but she's also unmarried and I don't want yet another dicey social issue to do with marital status/sexual orientation thrown in to go with the black guy with the funky name and the gender stuff.

IMNHO, the VP spot is Clinton's for the taking if she wants it. And maybe she does want it, because even if she thinks they will lose in the GE (which I believe strongly and I also believe SHE believes strongly, and maybe ESPECIALLY if she believes that) it is likely the only thing that will repair her relationship with AA's in the party and save her and Bill's legacy and power within the Party without a devastating divorce. The divorced from reality Obama set of his supporters have no idea what the reality of having 49% of the delegates in your control means (see Bowers, Chris, Stoller, Matt or JM, WK).

His only other potential choice if Clinton doesn't want it? Evan Bayh (and don't get me started), Ed Rendell, or some other prominent Clinton supporter. She will demand that for her support, and she will win that battle. The VP slot is Clinton's choice, not Obama's, she has "The Math".

The funny thing is Tumulty doesnot act this stupid on her blog.

I can't believe she would want to, in effect, repeat as VP a job she essentially had with Bill.  In fact, she would have less power than she had with BC -- unless somehow she were able to force some sort of power-sharing arrangement with Barack along the lines of Bush-Cheney or what Reagan in 76 wanted with Ford.  

Longer answer-- I would never under any circumstances either vote for McCain or not vote at all if there was any chance at all he could win my state.

They just can't take advantage of them without alienating their base.

Now, since the GOP base isn't the same as he Dem base, McCain and the GOP can use attacks that would hurt Clinton as much as they would help her.

No, it's not o.k., considering that I generally like McCain.  And it's going to be a disastrous tactic to attack a war hero/POW like that, and it's already proving to be a bit STUPID for him to come out with that "losing his bearings" junk.  Obama's tactics suck, no matter who they're directed towards (Alice Palmer, anyone?).

Picking such a conservative woman would be an even more cynical ploy than Obama picking Sebelius however.  

My radar said it was a campaign staffer feeling it out.  

The question was asked too soon, but I think that would be an absolutely brilliant move on McCain's party.

It's not just women's GOTV groups, but vet groups, and any group perceived to be against Obama.  Or not even against; being non-partisan seems to be a tacit endorsement of Clinton these days.

It really reminds me of what Bush & Co have done over the last seven years, where they weed out anyone who might perchance eventually not agree with them.  The fascinating thing is how quickly the blog boys have started to eat their own tails.

You are part of the problem. You hate Clinton so much you can not imagine how it is necessary to unify the Party.

The economy is now the winning issue. Iraq is only as slight positive for Dems now.

If Bush could not get Roe v Wade overturned, McCain won't (he's waffled on abortion before)

It's not outlawing abortion outright that we have to fear, but restrictions places on access.  Time out laws, parental consent, waiting periods, mandatory sonograms, etc.  Slowly, access is being restricted until there will be a stranglehold and only women who have money and time will be able to get safe, legal abortions.

But then, I worked in a male-dominated industry for years and probably saw every gender trick in the book pulled to make sure I didn't get this or that.  None of it really worked, and I probably have a thicker hide than most.

I also am always one to champion stating the obvious.  This nonsense where we can't notice that 90% of AA voters are voing as a bloc or we can't notice that a candidate is AA or we can't point out that many of the state results were due to this kind of unprecedented support make me nuts.  I'm in the group that says transcending racial and gender bias requires us to be able to talk about it, for gosh sakes.

My own preference is just to say, "You do know that's pretty sexist or that could be seen as racist," and then let it go.

I'm firm that true sexism and true racism involves acts that, in fact, harm the person in a tangible way.

But then, I'm a huge believer that what people say reflects upon themselves, not upon the person they are talking about.

Bill's comment seemed to me a very simple matter of trying to point out that Hillary lost due to a landslide vote of the AA bloc, to be expected, just as other AA candidates had done in the past.

I believe that if Clyburn and Co. hadn't faked outrage, the entire comment would have caused a few eyes to roll in the AA community and not much more.

Over-reactions on both sides to stuff has probably bothered me the most this season.

And I want to add a personal note: It just so happened on MA TV (I forget the channel) -- Bill Clinton's comments about the "fairy tale" (where he was clearly talking about Senator Obama's record on the Iraq war -- and that his claim that he had always been voting against it etc. was a fairy tale), was played right before a clip of Michelle Obama saying that the Hillary campaign was saying that an African American ever winning the Presidency was a fairy tale. I found it disgusting that they were twisting his words that way -- and that no one in the MSM were calling them out on it.

Voting for Obama is validating all the bee-ess that has tarnished this primary. If I vote for Obama I say I'm fine with rampant misogyny, media choosing candidates, media fawning over one candidate and relentlessly attacking the other, disenfranchising voters from 2 states, Tarnishing the WJC legacy and calling people that fought for woman's rights, civil rights and human rights "racist" if they don't support Obama. There are more reasons but I've ranted enough.