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Hillary on Tonight Show with Jay Leno Tonight

Hillary will be on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno tonight. Fox News has a wrapup.

A regular on Letterman this campaign season, Hillary Clinton took a seat on the couch of his Los Angeles Late Night Rival — and took her share of good natured lumps. In an intro at the top of the show, she did a sketch skewering her 3am phone call ad, fielding a call from Leno asking her to appear on the show before saying “we’ve GOT to get caller ID.

And in the monologue, Leno mocked her recent Rocky Balboa infatuation, saying “We have the Italian stallion on the show tonight — Hillary Clinton, ladies and gentlemen.”

She takes on the Bosnia snipers and Rocky:

Walking out to the theme from Rocky, Clinton told Leno she was worried she wouldn’t make the show — saying “I was pinned down by sniper fire.” Leno replied “In LA, that might be true.”

She also talked about Bill's excitability on the campaign trail.

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    i can't wait (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by sickofhypocrisy on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 08:35:29 PM EST
    to hear morning joe's take on it tomorrow.  if she gets the nom, i have a sneaky suspicion joe will secretly vote for her.  

    Not a chance (none / 0) (#15)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 09:13:13 PM EST
    Scarborough's ideology is extremely right-wing.  He's just learned he does better with his guests and in the ratings if he doesn't make an issue of it.  But every once in a while, he starts to talk about it, and there's been zero change from his ideology as a congressman.  He likes Hillary's toughness on a personal level, has zero, as far as I can see, interest in African-American issues, but he wouldn't vote for her or any Democrat in a million years.

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    Scarborough (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by lilburro on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 09:18:23 PM EST
    is interesting.  Not as interesting as people who watch MSNBC that early in the morning, but interesting.

    His newfound affection for Hillary is kinda cute.  But really, the story of the year, if the media cared to positively sensationalize her as much as they do other candidates, would be "Hillary still in!  Crusader at large!  Fighter blah blah!  Heart!  Her own Brangelina!!!"

    They ain't poets.

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    I hope this appearance on Leno (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by kenosharick on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 08:37:50 PM EST
    helps counter the barrage of negative attacks she has been getting from olberman, randi rhodes, ect. She is usually pretty funny when she is self- deprecating.

    honestly? (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by dws3665 on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 08:41:40 PM EST
    I don't think there is anything she can do to gain ground with the pundit crowd. They are a lost cause. She's not staying in the race to convince them.

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    As this race goes on (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by lilburro on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 09:06:05 PM EST
    I am just more and more fascinated with her character.  Her humor is really at odds with the Hillary stereotype and it's gotten more play than I would've expected throughout this campaign.  It's sort of clumsy graceful.  Additionally, I think whether she wins or loses her advocacy for universal health care will be remembered.  Like it or not, she's made her mark.  As this race continues to go on, I realize I didn't know Hillary Clinton all that well going into it.  And I'm glad I do now.  I get the sense other people have the same feeling.  And it's good, again whether she wins or loses, to know that such a famous Democratic politician has stepped out of the shadow of her husband, and will go on to do really good things, despite MSM.

    Of course she'll also do embarrassing things, less than progressive things.  But she's now a very, very important character in the Dem show.  And I'm happy about it.  I do wonder though, how some of her more generous Obama sympathizers expect her to attain the Senate Majority leader seat...to me that's all blogocracy daydream.

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    why? (none / 0) (#27)
    by dotcommodity on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 11:30:07 PM EST
    I actually prefer chief of staff,....but why do you feel sml is a blogocracy (greatword) daydream?

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    To become SML (none / 0) (#38)
    by oldpro on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 02:42:10 AM EST
    she'd have to get the votes of her senate caucus colleagues...the same ones who aren't endorsing her in this race.  The last thing they want to do is give her anything.  More likley Kennedy, etc. would promote Durbin...someone on the Obama 'team.'

    As for your preference...chief of staff of what and for whom?

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    more Senators endorsed her, actually (none / 0) (#60)
    by dotcommodity on Sun Apr 06, 2008 at 11:29:29 PM EST
    per The Hill link which updates daily...actually now they have 50/50 senate...but they missed my Sen. Boxer, she said she would endorse our winner: Hillary won CA.

    Chief of Staff or someone who helps Obama create domestic policy within the WH...

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    I love your comment because . . (none / 0) (#50)
    by abfabdem on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 09:25:26 AM EST
    it just hit the nail on the head for me:  "As this race continues to go on, I realize I didn't know Hillary Clinton all that well going into it.  And I'm glad I do now."  We were so subjected to the right's trashing of her and making her a caricature for so many years--how many of us really knew what she was made of or really saw her personality?  I'm sure like a lot of others here, she was not my first choice candidate, but wow, she's is so impressing me now.  I feel like Obama got this big media push at the beginning and managed to tap into our celebrity worship culture and that put him ahead.  I am praying it is not too late because the longer this goes on the worse he looks to me and the better she looks.  Rock on Hillary!!

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    good move (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by dws3665 on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 08:39:42 PM EST
    I was hoping she would poke fun at herself over the Tuzla gaffe. Wish she had done it sooner, but I think it shows that while she may take her campaign extremely seriously, she doesn't always take herself so seriously.

    Well, I will do my best to keep (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by Anne on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 08:41:29 PM EST
    my peepers open long enough to see her, because I think when she is in that kind of venue, people can see that she is not the cold, humorless person she tends to be characterized as.  People have made fun of her laugh, but it always struck me as coming from her gut - a real laugh.

    She's a good sport, doesn't mind laughing at herself, and gives as good as she gets.  

    If you watched Obama's encounter with the man who wanted to take a picture with the candidate, you might have found yourself thinking that if that had been Hillary, she would not have cared if the guy wanted to sell the picture on ebay - and there's no way she would have acted as Obama did.  In fact, he's been reminding me a lot lately of Bush, in that he just cannot seem to get it together when he isn't "on-script," and ends up revealing himself to be a petty and immature man.  It's very telling.

    in how many ways (none / 0) (#21)
    by ghost2 on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 10:31:57 PM EST
    is he reminding us of Bush?  I hear it more and more, and his campaign is a complete copy of Bush 2000.

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    Setting my DVR (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by stillife on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 08:56:32 PM EST
    as I type this.  I have no doubt that Hillary will be extremely engaging and humorous, able to laugh at herself (unlike certain other Presidential candidates).  
     

    that ambitious wench! (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by cpinva on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 09:05:16 PM EST
    how dare she? satan's handmaiden going in public and daring to act like a real human being! no doubt every word, movement, glance, gesture and step will be scripted, years in advance, because she just knew she'd be on leno this very night!

    speaking of sniper fire, leno could just as easily have made that comment about being in va. turns out we have the highest concentration of snipers outside of tuzla!

    Wow, that's sad (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by stillife on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 09:05:47 PM EST
    But not surprising, based on personal experience.  I have friends and family (my mother, the Obama supporter who's coming to visit tomorrow) and there's definitely a rift.  

    sigh  And I truly thought the Dems couldn't lose in 2008.

    I'm appalled... (none / 0) (#20)
    by ROK on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 10:26:05 PM EST
    I can't believe you all are giving up on the Dems if HILLARY isn't the nominee. That kind of attitude is inexusable.

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    I'm apalled (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by angie on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 06:45:33 AM EST
    I can't believe that the DNC, Obama and his supporters have been taking my vote for granted, have flat out stated that I am a "low information" voter and are excluding MI & FL from the nomination process and then pretend to be "appalled" that I'm offended.  And now I have to hear that it is my fault and that I'm not a good Democrat? Sorry, pal, that's not the way to win me over.

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    Oh yeah? (none / 0) (#47)
    by ROK on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 08:51:34 AM EST
    That's what I did? I called you that, huh? And I also excluded MI and FL? Wow. I've been busy.

    Not only do I think that MI and FL should be counted and seated, I also think that Hillary and most of her base are excellent Dems. I do not, however, think that she would do as well in the GE and I do not think she could compete with McCain. I also do not think that she could expand the Dem party.

    Stop playing victim.

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    Do you commit (none / 0) (#51)
    by Marvin42 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 10:05:03 AM EST
    To fully supporting her if she is the nominee?

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    Of course... (none / 0) (#57)
    by ROK on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 04:51:57 PM EST
    I'm a Dem and eventough I have not liked so many things that EITHER candidate has done, I refuse to let my pride or anger get in the way and not pull that lever for a Dem. If I do, GOP wins again and it's our fault.

    I will say that I hope Hillary is also supporting counting caucus votes while she is claiming to wants EVERY vote to count. If she does not, then all of those states are punished because they happened to have a caucus.

    Again, I'll vote for her if she wins, but the Dems still have a lot to learn.

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    re electability being your concern ... (none / 0) (#58)
    by andrys on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 07:48:59 PM EST
    ROK,

    Quinnipiac poll on April 2 shows, per Reuters:

    "In a general election matchup in Florida,
    McCain closely trails Clinton 42 percent to 44 percent but
    McCain leads Obama, who would be the first black president,
    46 percent to 37 percent..."

    "In Ohio, Clinton has a 48 to 39 percent lead over McCain
    after months of too-close-to-call results...
    In an Obama-McCain matchup, Obama gets 43 percent against 42 percent for McCain.

    In Pennsylvania, Clinton tops McCain 48 to 40 percent and
    Obama leads the Arizona senator 43 percent to 39 percent."

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    heh, we can write her in ;) (none / 0) (#23)
    by nycstray on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 11:08:44 PM EST
    She's a Dem after all, lol!~

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    who asked you to excuse anyone? (none / 0) (#28)
    by RalphB on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 11:41:59 PM EST
    those choices are up to the individual and, if you have any faith in democracy, you'll let them make them.

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    That kind of attitude is realistic (none / 0) (#33)
    by echinopsia on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 01:17:36 AM EST
    because Obama cannot win the GE.

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    Thank you (none / 0) (#42)
    by stillife on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 06:37:04 AM EST
    That's what I meant.  I never said I wouldn't vote for Obama if he's the nominee.  I haven't made up my mind about that; November is a long way away.  I was merely observing that this primary campaign has generated a lot of bad feelings on both sides which will make it difficult for the nominee, but particularly for Obama who has alienated much of the Dem base.  My son's best friend says, "If Obama's the nominee, I guess I'll be voting for the grumpy old guy!"  I know quite a few people here in NYC who feel that way.  

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    Not (none / 0) (#41)
    by mm on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 06:01:40 AM EST
    Whoever said Obama is a Dem?

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    Senator Clinton just did really, really (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by inclusiveheart on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 11:11:22 PM EST
    well on the jobs issue I thought.  She and Leno touched on one of my pet peeves which is that our education system is set up to produce rocket scientists, but doesn't help train people who would be good at building the rockets (figuratively speaking) - she said the magic words - people to install the solar panels and build the wind turbines - those jobs can't be outsourced and they are valuable skilled labor that we no longer help kids who have an apitude for them to learn.

    I agree. It seems like technical (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by hairspray on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 11:57:48 PM EST
    education is not valued.  Not everyone is cut out to go to  college and do analytical work.

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    We've made such a fetish (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 01:01:56 AM EST
    of college education in this country that we don't have anywhere near enough skilled tradesmen -- plumbers, electricians, carpenters-- to keep up with the demand.  It's nuts.  Those are GREAT jobs and pay better than all but the best white-collar jobs.  It's just insane that our society has devalued those professions because they involve getting your hands dirty.

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    I thought she did well (5.00 / 5) (#30)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 12:58:45 AM EST
    The audience was with her, she was as others noted, conversational and  humorous but also got her talking points in.  She came across as very human and as someone who is doing the best she and staying in because she knows how much she can give and help those Americans who are in need. She bashed Bush, not Obama or McCain and portrayed the impact of the disenfranchisement of FL and MI voters as one that would hurt Dems in November because they would think the Dem. party did nothing to help them. She never once mentioned what votes she won or how it was necessary  to her campaign chances, only necessary for voters in two states that are important for Dems to win in November.

    A good show, she diffused the Bosnia snafu, Bill's excitability and got to display the mother side of her when discussing Chelsea.

    She's such a more polished speaker than Obama, and I connect so much more to her than to him.  I think a lot of people do. Particularly those that don't like change when it comes with an unknown factor at the end.  

    Or maybe it's just me. I have pots and pans I use that are 30 years old, some were my mother's. I don't think I've changed my shampoo or my hair stylist in 20 years. I've had the same car insurance policy for 36 years -- the same doctor and dentist for 30 years.

    Change is disconcerting to the very young and to older folks. If it's change for the better, sure, but we need to know that we're not buying a pig in a poke, Obama leaves me with an unsettled feeling. How well does he know how Washington works after spending one year there? How many years has he been studying national health care? All his plans are new and developed with experts he's only known a few years.

    I can only imagine the angst of losing a job and not knowing what comes next; of having to move to a new city and and your kids have to change schools; Life is stressful enough without a lot of change where you just have to hope for the best. There's a lot of people my age that are looking for security as we figure out how to wind down and retire. Those of us who have both kids and elder parents, sometimes on both sides, have it really rough.

    Hillary always has a plan, it's one that's well thought out and she has the stuff it takes and the know-how to push it through Congress. If Obama gets the nomination, I'll be very worried about his experience and capabilities. The blind leading the blind as my grandmother used to say. (She's the one that gave me the "pig in a poke" line too.

    Well, tommorrow is another day. There'll be an open thread up in the morning since I have jail visits most of the day.

    Have a great night everyone. You can convert this to an open thread if you;d like.

    I can't (none / 0) (#7)
    by Gossipqueen on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 08:42:00 PM EST
    wait to watch this tonight.

    contrast that to Obama (none / 0) (#10)
    by Kathy on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 09:02:17 PM EST
    whining about a ten year old kid messing up his bowling game...

    I dunno, I think the older I have gotten, the more I can laugh about myself (not that I'm ever foolish, but, you know, it could happen).  Goes way back to my problem with Obama not being seasoned enough.  You have to learn to take the lumps.  We've already got an inexperienced president who can't take a joke at his expense.  Not working too great for us.

    Laughing at ourselves is (none / 0) (#22)
    by nycstray on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 10:47:58 PM EST
    one of the perks of being "older", lol!~

    My friends and I do it quite well. Of course we have the best laughs when we go back over our younger years  ;)

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    Good Times (none / 0) (#52)
    by Tmo78759 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 10:10:53 AM EST
    Oh yeah, nice memories.  Remember that time I totally lied about it being too dangerous for Bill to go to Bosnia, so I took my 16 year old daughter and went instead.  Oh so funny.  And remember how I said that we had been under sniper fire, and hand to cover our heads and run to the waiting cars, but we really just got out and a little girl read us a poem and we milled around a bit until we leisurely got in our cars and went to lunch.  That was hilarious.  Oh good time, good times.  I can't believe they bought it for so long.  Oh, those were the days.

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    He said the eight year old kid was giving him (none / 0) (#34)
    by voterin2008 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 01:21:43 AM EST
    tips, your reading way to much into it.

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    What did she say about the supers? (none / 0) (#16)
    by Davidson on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 09:14:08 PM EST
    What could she have said that would've caused them to roll their eyes?  I mean, both Obama and Clinton will need the supers to win the nomination (assuming it doesn't go to a floor fight).

    I hate how much disinformation is out there and how intensely it's believed.  I just had a 3-hour battle with a formerly close friend of mine who suffers from Obamania.  Half of that was just correcting him on the false race-baiting narrative.  Even when all the facts were on the table and he couldn't challenge them, he still refused to believe Clinton was anything less than evil and Obama was pure--in spite of the fact, his entire basis for those conclusions were proven false.

    Ugh.

    Funny (none / 0) (#18)
    by Steve M on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 09:22:14 PM EST
    but "spoiler alert" Jeralyn!! :)

    She is such a good speaker in these (none / 0) (#24)
    by Teresa on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 11:09:43 PM EST
    formats. No hesitation, just very conversational. Smart lady.

    She rocks in these situations. (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by nycstray on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 11:20:29 PM EST
    damn. Just put her on the talk show rotation. This is why I like her. She can really talk to the specifics of a subject. They were def continuing the conversation into the commercial.

    Ah, we have 2 debates coming up  ;)

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    Bravo, Jeralyn (none / 0) (#32)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 01:13:59 AM EST
    Beautifully said.

    I think the saddest thing is how this woman has been personally trashed, so that people who see her for the first time are genuinely suprised at what a really nice and authentically warm person she is.

    Some -- but only some -- of my distaste for Obama is the contrast with what you describe about Hillary. He so often seems so distant, with his nose in the air, dismissive and not infrequently outright condescending, often even bored at the idea of being asked to explain himself.

    Not a good way to decide on a president, certainly, but it does strike me nevertheless.

    He seems to me far more the heir to Adlai Stevenson and Gene McCarthy than Jack Kennedy.

    And I have to say, one of the reasons I decided way back when that Bill Clinton was a pretty good guy was because he fell in love with and wanted to marry Hillary, such a blisteringly smart woman, and not particularly presentable in those days.

    Neither of them are perfect, but both are genuinely good people.

    Only caught the last section of the interview (none / 0) (#35)
    by voterin2008 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 01:28:27 AM EST
    which didn't go to well from my perspective.  She she has a winning arguement on revotes in Michigan and Florida and diverted direct questions on isn't this changing the rules.  She said "I don't want to go into that right now" and then mis-spoke again.

    1. The republicans shannanagins affected the revotes in both states.  Her words not mine, she is at least half right (kind of).

    2. In Michigan the State Legislature and I supported a revote but Barrack didn't.  Not true not saying Obama supporters may not have stopped it but the state legislature is the entity that stopped the revote.

    Dismiss this if you will but if your standing on the right side you should be able to make the right arguement.

    Come on (none / 0) (#39)
    by Manuel on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 02:56:54 AM EST
    If Obama had wanted a revote in MI we'd be planning for one now.  He didn't want one so we aren't getting it.  I don't blame him for using the rules to his advantage.  It is what he did in his very first election.


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    There are many items on the (none / 0) (#56)
    by waldenpond on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 11:12:04 AM EST
    MI/FL issue.  You might want to go read them.  There are links to articles etc. that show a different perspective.  This issue has been beaten to death here and there is a very large majority here that disagree with you.  In fact, the discussions of FL/MI are often stopped flat out because they have been discussed here so much.

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    Yes, best Fla Mich write-up was (none / 0) (#59)
    by andrys on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 07:56:34 PM EST
    Best Florida/Michigan write-up was Wayne Barrett's introduced here by BTD.  Probably too much info for those who prefer to keep using the simplistic "The Rules! They broke them!" routine.

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    yep, (none / 0) (#36)
    by cpinva on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 01:41:10 AM EST
    such a blisteringly smart woman, and not particularly presentable in those days.

    she cleans up real good! lol

    every time i've seen sen. clinton on tv, she has impressed me, since the '92 campaign. frankly (and i'll probably get booted out of the "guy" club for this!), i always thought she was the smarter of the two. not that pres. clinton isn't a smart guy, clearly he is, but she has street smarts.

    what i find fascinating are the youngsters, who've totally bought into the "hillary as demon spawn" theme pushed by the right-wingnuts and, sadly, the obama campaign. they've never met her, never seen her on tv, yet they "know" what an evil person she is. was i really that arrogant and stupid at that age?

    to quote dean wormer: "drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son."

    rhandi rhodes apparently went totally off the deep end today, anyone know what set her off? i always thought she was reasonably intelligent, does drinking the kool-aid cause you to just completely lose your mind?

    I'm from Pittsburgh (5.00 / 3) (#44)
    by smott on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 08:01:15 AM EST
    ...and saw/heard her recent speeches here. SHe's actually very self-depracating and witty as a speaker, though no doubt she lacks BO's style. Also I think she's scary-smart - very particular details on  lots of policy always at the tip of her tongue.

    ANyway I had been luke-warm towards HRC early on, and leaning towards Obama after hearing him speak and thinking how great it would be to have a candidate who like Bill Clinton could really talk to a crowd...

    HOwever the more I have seen and heard of HRC, and read about her policy, the more I like her. Her ideas are more progressive, and my sense is she works extremely hard. My in-laws are in NY and they all used to hate her when she first got in. Now they're all voting for her, because she is such a hard worker and got so much done for NY, esp the 9-11 workers.

    On the flip-side...the more I have gotten familiar with Obama, the less I have liked him. Yes he's still a great speaker, but his policies I find to be well short of hers, esp in health care, and SS, and economy. I also think he's politically naive as evidenced by his apparent assumption Wright and Rezko wouldn't come back to bite him. Hillary's negatives may be high, but I think his will be higher by the time we get to GE and we've got Jeremiah on wall-to-wall 527s. So despite her negatives, I actually think she is more electable, and I hope that my experience is similar to many others - that as she campaigns from town to town and more people get acquainted with her, the more support she gets.

    So her nbrs would continue to climb while his continue to falter as the spotlight gets stronger and the race gets shorter.

    I guess that is what we have to hope for anyway...

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    I don't think that was caused by the kool aid (none / 0) (#37)
    by voterin2008 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 02:30:35 AM EST
    and if so it should come with a warning label.

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    Reminds me of GWB's hilarious skit (none / 0) (#45)
    by CodeNameLoonie on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 08:40:06 AM EST
    where he looks for WMD under the furniture!

    I laughed so hard I forgot everything I thought I stood for.

    do you stand (none / 0) (#49)
    by dws3665 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 09:18:37 AM EST
    for false equivalencies? Hillary was making fun of herself for misremembering something. GWB was making fun of his administration's causus belli, you know, the one that has so far led to the death of 4000 Americans and uncounted thousands of Iraqis.

    Yes, indeed, we laugh and laugh.

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    Misremembering? (none / 0) (#53)
    by CodeNameLoonie on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 10:15:36 AM EST
    I think you misunderestimate  the issue.

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    Sorry I missed this. (none / 0) (#46)
    by lucky leftie on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 08:47:57 AM EST
    I saw snippets of it early today, and Hillary was great.  Funny and quick on her feet; clearly, she doesn't take herself too seriously.  I also think this was a great strategy, given that Obama is out-raising her.  A little free exposure.  Good for her.  

    What everything else said (none / 0) (#48)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 08:52:37 AM EST
    One point:  I don't like Jay Leno, and every time I watch his show, that feeling is confirmed.  Last night was no different when he started in about "da roooolz," and then snickered humorlessly while citing them and the reason why FL/MI had to be excluded.

    I'm glad Conan is replacing him.

    Hillary did fantastic (none / 0) (#54)
    by OxyCon on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 10:47:34 AM EST
    She spoke with so much depth and knowledge on every subject that Leno brought up.
    I seriously don't know how anyone could watch her and not be extremely impressed.
    I kept thinking that if Obama was seated next to her and Leno asked him the same questions, he'd just nod his head and say "I agree with what Hillary said", like he always does.
    When Hillary speaks, you can tell she is actually thinking and speaking from a wealth of knowledge, that she is trying to educate you.
    When Obama speaks, it seems like all he is trying to do is come up with something that sounds cool, or some kind of sweet talk or platitude.

    Got a new hero..... (none / 0) (#55)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 10:47:54 AM EST
    Link

    I hope the man gets off his land.  If I had a pair and wasn't so fearful of a cage I'd join him.  Tax revolt may be the only way to bring about desperately needed changes.