If Obama loses Indiana, only scores a 5 to 10 point win in North Carolina, loses Kentucky and West Virginia, where are we then?

I suppose that the only thing left is whether the Democrats are willing to lose the general election in order to not lose some AA's because of the wedge that Obama has driven to separate Clinton from the black vote.

The only republican guy came in to gloat with me about Obama's misfortunes, which I was having none of. He thought because I support Hillary; I'd bond with him or something. I told him he should get used to saluting a woman or a black guy because that is how this will end after we have our nominee.

Even though I said that, I have this real fear that Obama will lose to McCain. I fear there are thousands, if not millions who are just like this guy and will not vote for Obama no way, no how, ever. they don't "trust him".

On the other hand (I'm a Libra), I have heard many Hillary bashers who absolutely hate her. This often surprises me to the degree they dislike her (CDS). I think Hillary's supporters that I know will vote for Obama but winning over those that hate Hillary is another story. I happen to think we are more reasonable at this point.

He could get away with it too -- He can say that Democrats want the focus to be on the real issues in the campaign, and the media's obsession with Wright is preventing a discussion of those issues.

Feb. 10, 2007 -- Obama decides not to have Wright deliver the invocation at the launch of his presidential campaign.

NYT says John McCain cheating on his wife?  Would have sunk Obama, but most people felt they knew John McCain to reject this as just defamatory rumor.

How can voters trust someone who walked away from a close personal mentor and friend of 20 years over politics? Every voter (not perhaps the brainwashed Obama supporter or the MSM who are already in the tank for him) must be asking "how long will this man hang with me"? How quickly did he turn on Wright of whom he said "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community, or my grandmother ... he is a part of my life".

Remember the biggest loss because of all this. Remember the Philly speech that was supposed to "start" the conversation on race that The One was supposed to lead us through. Here was a prime opportunity to further that conversation -- by engaging Wright! Instead Obama just copped out, did the politically expedient thing. He can't be trusted.

I tend to think that AA will not be too happy with Obama's condemnation of Wright. Believe it or not Wright is regarded highly by a lot of people.

Then again, people have gone crazy this election.  The MSM was just praising his speech at the NAACP. Two hours later, he was crucified.

His standing with the AA community will not be hurt by anything he has done or will do.

The clip I saw last night on ABC's evening news of his speaking to a group in Indiana showed him talking about his oh-so-humble beginnings: single mom on foodstamps, etc.--but rather than connecting with voters (or even just empathizing with their economic woes, as Hillary's does so well), he just seemed to rather desperately trying to distance himself from the "elitist" label.

At the end of the clip, he said "This is why I love America," and I thought he was going to break out into an a capella version of the Star Spangled Banner to top things off.

At first the Obama campaign and his supporters were saying that Wright's words were being taken out of context; that all we heard were five minutes worth of snippets from a thirty year career; that what Wright said was true anyways, so deal with it; and lastly, that new instant classic (brought to you by the Obama campaign) "you're a racist" for not liking what Wright said.

But now that Wright is acting crazy out in the wide open, it's finally time for Obama to throw him under the bus along with Granny.

Obama finally comes around to seeing things the way those of us who immediately criticized Wright saw them, and where ostracized by Obama's supporters for doing so.

I'm so glad that I support Hillary Clinton and I don't have to contort myself on a daily basis in order to continue to support her.

Oddly enough, I do not feel bad for Senator Obama, I feel bad for Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright said some awful things, and I was particularly offended and upset with his comments about Bill and Hillary, as well as God D*** America, but Obama knew who he was and what Wright was about. He joined the church, possibly for political reasons, and I think he and Michelle really did become very close to Wright and then he threw Wright under the bus when it hurt his chances. So I can only imagine how much it pained Wright to see Obama all of a sudden acting like he had no idea what this man stood for and the things that he believed for political reasons. Wright himself said to the NYTimes that Obama may have to distance himself, so I don't think this was a surprise to him, but I still think he has to be the person that is most hurt.

In terms of the fallout, I was not especially impressed with his race speech because he failed to take responsibility, and I have the same reaction today. Everything is Wright's fault, Wright is a different person, etc, but I think Wright is the same person that we saw in those clips. Obama never takes responsibility for his own choice to stay in the church and take his kids there. My guess is his answers will work for the same people that the race speech worked for - his base - the media, and other people who were already inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. For those of us that are already skeptical, 20 years is 20 years and nothing can change that.

I think AAs will stick by him, even if they think his actions were wrong. The group to watch is latte liberals - if he keeps them and prevents HRC from making inroads like she did in PA, he will be in good shape. Reagen dems are lost to him.

Obama's selfishness has really become apparent with all the spectacles conducted by Wright.  Actually Wright did a lot of us a favor:   he exposed Obama for the hypocrite that he is.  Deep down I bet Wright is jealous of Obama's rise in the political world.  So what does Wright do?  He torpedoes him, and, gets bragging rights that he brought down the first black man that had more than a good chance at becoming president.

Obama's own selfishness allowed ALL of this to happen.  He so badly wanted to be the nominee and president that he just did what he felt was the politically expedient thing to do.  He didn't give a damn about Wright or his church.  They were his tools to get into political offices in Chicago.

I may not agree with a lot of the things that Wright speaks of, but at least he showed Obama that he wasn't going to be thrown under the bus without taking him down.  In Wright's mind, he helped Obama get where he is, and will bring his butt down, too.

Understand this...

Obama embraced him a month ago and disowned him today...where's the integrity? Where's the commitment to stand and fight?

I know it originated on this site, except I could not find the original post'poster via your search engine.

But the original came from one of our posters here, worded "I never had spiritual relations with that man."

Let's make sure we give that poster the original credits for that comment, and the spin-offs from there.

Please stand up, poster, who came up with this.  The search engine is inferior.  Let us know who you are once again, so that we can credit you with it.  It's a winner, and it's spreading around.  There's no reason why your name shouldn't be attacked to it.

I predict he bounces back from this, and uses today's events to his advantage in the future.  As I think it was Jeffrey Toobin said, now that he has given up trying to have it both ways over Wright, he has the words he needs to defend himself in the future. (He should have heeded Hillary's advice a long time ago, and rejected, renounced, disowned, whatever he needed to do.)

On a lighter note, from the comments in a thread below discussing Obama today saying Wright was not his spriritual advisor or mentor: Shorter version: "I did not have pastoral relations with that man."