Late Night: Doolin' Dalton (Hello, Wyoming)

Showtime in Wyoming: Bill Clinton vs. Barack Obama
The Eagles, Doolin' Dalton/Desperado Reprise, 1974 (with Linda Ronstadt singing in this segment and she's not the one wearing Jersey number 12)

Well the stage was set the sun was sinkin' low down
As they came to town to face another showdown
The lawmen cleared the people from the streets
"All you blood -thirsty bystanders, will you try to find your seats?"
Watch 'em duelin'
High or low ,it's all the same

The AP:

Presidential hopeful Barack Obama has announced that he will visit Wyoming on Friday for a town hall meeting in Casper and a rally in Laramie.

...The Clinton campaign announced today that former President Bill Clinton will swing through Wyoming on Thursday on behalf of his wife's campaign.

Bill Clinton's stops will include a speech at 10:45 a.m. at Central Wyoming College in Riverton. He'll then travel to southwestern Wyoming for a 1:45 p.m. event at the Sweetwater County Events Complex in Rock Springs. The former president will wind up his Wyoming appearances in Laramie with a speech at the UniWyo Sports Complex at the University of Wyoming at 5 p.m.

Will it matter? I love the state, but it really is Dick Cheney country. In 2004, John Kerry won one county, Teton, with a total population of 18,000 and a population density of five persons per square mile.

The chances of a Democrat winning in November? When H*ll Freezes Over, Get Over It.

Update below: Hillary's going to Wyoming too.

From the comments:
Hillary's Friday, March 7th visits include a 2:30 p.m. town hall meeting at the Laramie County Community College gymnasium in Cheyenne, followed by a 6:30 p.m. town hall meeting at the Casper College auxiliary gym in Casper. Both events are free and open to the public.

Bill Clinton is there today campaigning in Riverton, Rock Springs and Laramie.

Chelsea Clinton is scheduled to appear with her father in Riverton today and then speak at Casper College at 2 p.m.

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    I envision Bill Clinton swooping across (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:38:43 AM EST
    Wyoming in a crop duster with a megaphone and a pile of campaign leaflets.

    Seriously (none / 0) (#6)
    by phat on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:43:07 AM EST
    That would be astoundingly good.



    Suppose I could make, say $3 mil. (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:43:56 AM EST
    for that idea?

    I've got ten bucks (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by phat on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:45:19 AM EST
    We could start a PAC with money like that in the great plains.



    Of course, we'll have to be quite (none / 0) (#10)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:53:52 AM EST
    careful about any photos we include of Obama.

    The media would love it (none / 0) (#12)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:01:36 AM EST
    and then somehow call it racist.

    Since his wife's campaign... (none / 0) (#54)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:49:45 AM EST
    is doing better, at least we don't have to worry about Bill wagging the dog and dropping some bombs from that cropduster, a la Iraq during his presidency.

    The Democratic party....only 2% less fond of dropping bombs than Republicans.


    Here's some yammering about (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:53:13 AM EST
    Clinton campaign.  Nevertheless, she's doing great.


    Classic tension (none / 0) (#13)
    by phat on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:02:04 AM EST
    Message vs. Field.

    Absolutely classic.




    Darn, no more "Penn for Penn" slogan (none / 0) (#14)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:05:48 AM EST
    Stop the printing of those banners! Too bad, just too bad.

    Everytime I see Penn now (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:08:18 AM EST
    I have to stop and think.  Good job.

    You see Penn a lot? (none / 0) (#33)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:30:17 AM EST
    Creepy!  I hope not through binoculars...

    The Huff Obama (none / 0) (#37)
    by facta non verba on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 04:26:38 AM EST
    headline to that story read: WAR RAGES INSIDE CLINTON CAMP.

    Honestly do they get up in the morning and say well how can I savage Mrs. Clinton today?

    It is a Sabine rape on a daily basis.

    Even Roman whores had Sunday and Mondays off.


    Mind your tongue.... (none / 0) (#55)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:51:18 AM EST
    the pc police are all over the place.

    You can't use words like rape and whore, no matter how apt, lest you feel the wrath.


    Wyoming (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by mouth of the south on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 07:33:36 AM EST
    Well, if Wyoming is one of those states that doesjn't count, then I think Clinton should just write it off as not worth the effort.  Isn't that how she got more than 100 delegates behind?  Some states matter but others don't?

    Funny thing about red states... (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by mike in dc on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:17:40 AM EST
    ...is that there are still plenty of registered (and unregistered) Democrats in them, and perhaps they appreciate it when they're not written off.  Even if a Dem presidential candidate can't break the 50% threshhold in one, raising their vote share there will have a beneficial down ticket effect, getting some local Democrats elected, and also building some party infrastructure to improve our chances next time around.

    That "only blue states and swing states matter anyway" mentality is a big part of the reason why we haven't yet turned the GOP into a regional party.

    I like your comment (none / 0) (#52)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:26:00 AM EST
    and considering that Wyoming is what introduced Dick Cheney to Washington D.C. yes, redstates matter and even sparsely populated wimpy looking red states ;)  What if Democrats had paid more attention to Wyoming 20 years ago, would we have a Darth Cheney the uncontested black lord torturing Empire evil doers?  I was once one of those drooling Democrats living there repeatedly made to know that I did not matter.  Hope springs eternal though.

    I totally agree with (none / 0) (#58)
    by Joike on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 10:23:53 AM EST
    your take.

    Campaign thread? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Oje on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:28:17 AM EST
    Sure, late night (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:34:11 AM EST
    is an open thread.

    Then I would like to add this link... (none / 0) (#4)
    by Oje on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:38:20 AM EST
    For all the campaign haters, look how marginal we are in the Democratic party:

    Gallup VP Clinton-Obama ticket poll

    sniff. sniff.


    We knew that glad the People (none / 0) (#53)
    by Salt on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:36:09 AM EST
    caught up. Some news from Ohio that may come in handy in Wy and NC, Clinton won Dems which made up 69 percent of the vote by 14 points and she won in all the rural counties with a least 70 percent and who had they sent out there on a road show, Bill.  So the plane swooping over Wy may not be that far off.  She also won the white vote by 43 points and the Black vote by 25, 83 counties to Obama five county win. And a whopping 59  percent of the voters were women, and Clinton won them by 20 points, good job ladies.  If she moves her supporters into Wy as she did in Ohio, pesky crowd that, and they now have the key to Obama caucus victories I for one will am not counting her out for a win in WY.
    Bottom line seems the local papers believe Obama could not pull the State in a General, now it is true that same paper endorsed Bush, twice but I I do belive is resume is a problem for Ohioians.

    Could you link to (none / 0) (#59)
    by Joike on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 10:26:46 AM EST
    these numbers.  Are you sure she won African-American voters by 25%?  That seems like a typo.

    Dont forget she had Representative Tubbs Jones (none / 0) (#61)
    by Salt on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:06:51 AM EST
    a powerhouse and Representative Miller at her side in Ohio, the numbers are in The Columbus Dispatch starts front page ...What happened in Ohio and what it means for Democrats.

    The specific genius of Obama's campaign. (none / 0) (#3)
    by phat on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:36:38 AM EST
    He's realized that people in far-flung parts of the country truly appreciate him asking for his vote.

    This hasn't happened in many parts of the country for Democrats for a long time. It's quite cheap in many parts of the country to rent a room and let people in to hear you speak.

    I'm not one to believe that this is inspired by some specific belief system in the Obama camp. It's pure strategy. And I agree, in some part, that Dean may have inspired this. But it's still a tactical/strategic decision. It's working, too.

    Targeting caucuses is that much more effective.

    The tools of community organizing are always tactical. This is not to discount the motivations behind these tools' use. But they are still calculated.

    I think the effectiveness of these tools is dependent on making sure that they do not seem calculated. And I believe this is the heart of Obama's success.

    Granted, without the backing of the half of the Democratic powers-that-be that support him he would never have gotten where he is. I suspect he was able to sell this whole strategy sometime last spring to people who were not interested in backing Clinton, for various reasons. His unusual choice of strategy and tactics helped that sale.

    How do you build an insurgent-looking campaign from the inside? That question has been answered.

    I use "genius" in the title of this post. That's probably a bit of overstatement, but it's working quite well.

    It's a tightrope, of course, as the specific tactics have an effect of alienating the Democratic base. And it's divisive in that manner. But it has been sold well. It takes advantage of local state Democratic Parties, looking to get some of that action that they haven't gotten in years. The local parties take advantage of the attention to build their parties. Open primaries and caucuses do build the party.

    The Wyoming Democratic Party would be fools to not take advantage of the situation. The Wyoming Republican Party are probably very upset about this whole thing.


    perhaps so. (5.00 / 3) (#18)
    by cpinva on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:25:40 AM EST
    while on the one hand this strategy might be seen as inspired, it has a fatal flaw: it's only (and marginally at that) useful in the primaries. no good will come of it in nov.

    no doubt the 5 or 6 democrats in wyoming (and ND, SD and MT) all appreciate sen. obama's presence, none of those states will go democratic come nov. none, zilch, nada, zippo. nor will SC.

    a fair chunk of the "independents" who've voted for him during the primary/caucus season will go back from whence they came in nov. and vote republican. regardless of who the dem nominee is.

    in the meantime, he's succeeded, as you noted, in alienating the dem core. as well, if published reports are true, and his campaign is threatening AA SD's to vote for him, he may well have seriously hurt his career in the process. those people don't like threats and they won't soon forget.

    i guess these are the risks you run as an "insurgent".


    Yes (none / 0) (#25)
    by phat on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:02:37 AM EST
    I suspect that he won't lose too many of the independents that he may have gained. Some good may come of it in November. If some small state's Democratic parties are able to take advantage of the situation, than there is likely to be some even more long-term gain.

    However, he's built a rhetorical mandate that may not help progressives. This has been argued here and in other venues. I must point out that I don't equate progressive with liberal. I consider myself to be a progressive and a liberal. That may just be a quaint formulation. But that's the foundation of my political beliefs.

    That being said, I don't know that Obama is building a coalition that is based on liberal or progressive principles. There is some faith that he might be doing this. That faith isn't completely unwarranted. It's still faith.

    The influx to local Democratic parties is, it seems, directly related to Obama's campaign, at least in some places. I suspect that the fierce competition has had an effect, too.

    But his campaign is not partisan/progressive/liberal. It's something else. What that means is up to interpretation. Which is the crux of the argument. And it's an important question.

    If he does not win the nomination, which is still possible, he has to explain to his supporters that other things are at stake. Argue all you want about the problems of 2 party systems and institutional power, but if you are willing to get people excited about a movement that you have built and that movement doesn't achieve the goal that was set, you have to do something meaningful to get the members of that movement to, at the very least, help the obvious allies you may have.

    I suspect that Obama will help Clinton if she wins. He hasn't really been very forceful in his comments about that. And, to be honest, I think his strategy has made it difficult to do this.

    He's a smart guy, he can figure it out if he has to.

    If he wins the nomination, he still has problems to deal with. It may seem to his supporters that those problems are small. They aren't. But I suppose that what we get for entering new territory.




    No one likes (none / 0) (#38)
    by facta non verba on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 04:29:18 AM EST
    a bully and you can bet Rep. John Lewis won't forget the threats made against him. I have a suspicion that John Lewis made yet again change his mind.

    Wow (none / 0) (#49)
    by Claw on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 07:57:30 AM EST
    Do you have any idea the political power Lewis wields in Atlanta?  No, clearly you don't.  John Lewis has faced much stiffer tests than the threat of a challenge in a political race.  He's going with his constituents and I think he's earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his political life.  He may have decided that he likes Obama more than Clinton.

    Trust me.  This guy doesn't get bullied by anyone.  Sorry.    


    I happen to agree (none / 0) (#17)
    by Steve M on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:13:52 AM EST
    with the power of the 50-state strategy, and the "ask."

    Obama will never win these deep-red states in this election cycle, of course.  But we'll never make progress if we, as a party, don't adhere to Howard Dean's philosophy of showing every American respect by asking for their vote.  Obama is fortunate enough to have the fundraising resources to make this outreach, and I'm glad he's doing it.


    I'm glad his doing it (none / 0) (#27)
    by phat on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:09:47 AM EST
    on a very selfish level. My local Democratic party has gained because of it.

    But make no mistake, he's not doing it to build the party. He's doing it to beat his opponent.

    It's almost worked. If he loses the nomination, it could be disaster.

    That's our responsibility to deal with it, but it's still a serious gamble.



    Actually Patrick Mass .Tatic again (none / 0) (#62)
    by Salt on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:16:35 AM EST
    that approach is an Axelrod campaign strategy too, the approach was first used in Mass for the Patrick race and was proven effective, where the state primary uses remote delegate rich caucuses as well to select a nominee and the results where the same the front runner was in the big cities and was also shocked when the AA vote moved form him in mass leaving him wanting.

    This has been the part that bothers me about Clinton's campaign, it is exactly the same play book that knocked out the Dem favorite for Gov. as well, why did they not see this coming this being the biggest error of her team, I believe.


    Clinton supporters might enjoy this video... (none / 0) (#11)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:00:50 AM EST
    It is from her Town Hall in Texas and there is a very heartfelt moment from one of the women who compares Hillary to "polished gold"


    Standing ovation from the crowd was well deserved.

    That was fabulous (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:39:23 AM EST
    I'm going to do it as a late night this week.  Thanks so much. I'll hat tip you Diplomatic.

    woohoo, thumbs up (none / 0) (#22)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:54:31 AM EST
    Now that is inspiration (none / 0) (#23)
    by Stellaaa on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:56:22 AM EST
    Inspiration comes from this woman's soul, not from a speech writer.  Wonderful.  

    I wonder how many votes... (none / 0) (#28)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:12:27 AM EST
    That was aired the night before the election in Texas and the event was hosted by Eva Longoria.

    I bet you that those 2 ladies were responsible for moving thousands of undecided voters to Hillary just in time.


    Wow (none / 0) (#32)
    by Stellaaa on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:23:46 AM EST
    Some tough old ladies, I want all those young women who say:  " I am a feminist but.....", whenever I hear that I go apoplectic.  It's like an apology for being a woman.  I loved Chelsea, she was crying.  

    Here's Roger Cohen (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:09:49 AM EST
    on Obama's African roots and half-sister's appraisal of Obama (favorable, of course):


    Do I have to? (none / 0) (#24)
    by Stellaaa on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:57:14 AM EST
    Of course not. But here's more (none / 0) (#26)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:03:48 AM EST
    from Obama's putative grandmother in Kenya.  For one thing, she does not like dirty tricks:


    BTW, Stellaaa, have you bookmarked the Rezko trial site?  I have.  All fired up and ready to go.


    She is not his grandmother (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Stellaaa on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:21:17 AM EST
    She is the second step mother or something.  No biological connection.  His grandmother is dead.  His white grandmother raised him.  Gawd....

    Where is the Rezko trial site?  I am here in "Old  Europe" I lurk when others sleep.  

    Heh, all the small town papers have Hillary's face on the front cover.  Great German quote:  My heart says Obama, my brain says Hillary.  Funny thing both my heart and brain say Hillary.  


    Rezko link was in Jeralyn's post (none / 0) (#67)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 07:36:16 PM EST
    yesterday, I think.

    Keep us posted on what is newsworthy about the Dem. race where you are.  Quite interesting.


    Hey, question (none / 0) (#29)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:13:06 AM EST
    Do you mean Rezko Watch?

    The thoughts of a Super-D (none / 0) (#20)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:40:48 AM EST
    from North Carolina:


    Some momentum in the polls for Hillary in NC (none / 0) (#30)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:14:05 AM EST
    Just saw something about a PPP poll indicating she is within 4 points of Obama now.

    But it is a looooooooooooooong way away and it might not even get that far.


    Here it is... (none / 0) (#34)
    by Oje on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 03:06:21 AM EST
    PPP poll on North Carolina:

    "This isn't actually particularly good news for Obama... He's been leading in most North Carolina polls over the last three weeks by double digits."

    With Pennsylvania 6 weeks away, it is no longer about the primaries, it is all about the narrative for now. We will have to see if the media bestows "teh momentum" on her.


    Undecideds... (none / 0) (#35)
    by Stellaaa on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 04:14:09 AM EST
    10% are undecided, it seems that in all the primaries late or later deciders go for Hillary.  

    poor Randy Meisner (none / 0) (#21)
    by DandyTIger on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:46:58 AM EST
    the Eagles base player (number 12 in the video), never gets any respect. Correct, that's not Linda. But I can see why you said he's not to avoid confusion given the hair styles. Ah, brings back memories... er, nightmares. Great to see the back band Linda formed for a tour went on to do great things.

    Shapiro at Salon (none / 0) (#36)
    by Stellaaa on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 04:24:26 AM EST
    Great analysis.  Let them fight it out..

    The sheer sense of collective befuddlement triggered by Hillary Clinton's political resurrection in Tuesday's primaries has been comic to behold. In the political and media cocoon known as Campaign Land, there is this gape-jawed, little-green-men-just-landed-on-the-front-lawn amazement that this is actually happening. The Democratic Party -- the symbol of disorganization since the days of Will Rogers -- has done it again. With just 172 days to go before the opening gavel of the Aug. 25 Denver Convention, the dithering Democrats have failed to agree on a nominee.


    Finally! The return of Bill (none / 0) (#39)
    by miked on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:04:47 AM EST
    Actual campaign activity by Bill Clinton! There has been such a Bill blackout the last few days, I was starting to suspect he had taken over Prince Harry's platoon in Afghanistan.

    I'm finding it difficult to sort out whether Bill has been an asset or liability for Hillary's campaign. He was such a hugely popular president, it's hard to believe he's not an asset, but still it seems he's gotten mixed results. What do you guys think?

    Asset (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:46:33 AM EST
    He went out there and worked very hard for Hillary before several key primaries and she won most of them.

    Before New Hampshire, Bill was all over the place speaking out -- she won.

    Before Nevada, Bill was getting feisty and complaining about the caucus irregularities and holding rallies, etc -- she won.

    Before California, Bill held tons of rallies in the final days and even appeared at her televise town hall -- she won.

    Before Texas and Ohio, Bill was ALL OVER THE PLACE holding rallies and even made that infamous comment that she had to win both TX and OH -- she won.

    The only exception may have been his efforts before South Carolina. That was the only time Bill may have hurt Hillary simply because the media hyped up the race angle.  But let's not forget that Hillary was going to lose that state no matter what.  So there is no direct evidence that it was BECAUSE of Bill.

    As long as he goes out there and talks to the people "incognito" sort of speak, without doing something to cause too much national media attention I think he has been a tremendous help to her.  He is very popular with Democrats and there should be no reason for her campaign to hide him away from here on out.


    Manufactured (none / 0) (#48)
    by miked on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 07:55:22 AM EST
    Having listened to Bill's comments in NC, and then read some of the press accounts - I'm totally convinced the media manufactured that "controversy" out of whole cloth. Obama supporters, however, tend to go along with the media interpretation. Saddening.

    On the other hand, that kind of stretching by the media to manufacture racial controversies can be cynically viewed as a sort of asset for Obama's candidacy in the general. The media can be depended upon to play the same kind of tricks on the Republicans - and they'll probably get alot more material to work with to boot.


    Don't be too sure (none / 0) (#50)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:17:31 AM EST
    The media is against Republicans all of a sudden?  They love McCain, don't forget.

    Temporary crush (none / 0) (#60)
    by miked on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 10:37:42 AM EST
    Eh, I don't think they're going to love McCain so much anymore now that he is the Republican nominee. I think they were McCain fans from 2000 on partly because he was almost as anti-Bush as Republicans get - now that they're having an endorsement love fest in the White House I think the press is going to notice McCain has zits all of a sudden.

    I think most of what is interpreted as bias on the part of the media is simply them trying to manufacture stories and drum up ratings / readers. They're going to print anything that sounds juicy that comes up on McCain. Hopefully they will do enough homework first to avoid shooting themselves in the foot like the NYT recently did.


    Ok so you buy into the myth of a liberal media. (none / 0) (#68)
    by diplomatic on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 01:19:24 AM EST
    We cannot agree then.

    Well In Ohio (none / 0) (#56)
    by Salt on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:56:18 AM EST
    that would have been major asset, they love that guy.  When we were making calls for Hillary women kept saying and we get Bill too, surprised me, but hey, at the rally they had Bill for first Dude stickers and women giggling about that, guess its that competent bad boy image thing he got going on .  They love Bill Clinton out here they did not deploy him to any AA counties which appears to have been a good strategy with the MANO stuff, thats happening there.

    Neverthless, it will be useful (none / 0) (#40)
    by bob h on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:06:52 AM EST
    to those masters of momentum manipulation, Obama and Axelrod.

    Are you saying (none / 0) (#41)
    by Arbitrarity on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:15:46 AM EST
    That their votes shouldn't matter?

    I suppose this could be the start of (none / 0) (#42)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:28:20 AM EST
    better things to come for Wyoming the ignored.  I love the state too and perceived momentum does seem to matter so hey Wyoming, get some.  I wish that Bill would hit Casper too because that is the largest population of blue collar Wyoming.  It's nice that he's hitting Rock Springs.  Wish I was at UW right now getting to hear both Barack Obama and Bill Clinton speak.  What a cool living on the wilderness edge gift that would be.

    Not scientific (none / 0) (#44)
    by Paladin on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 07:13:31 AM EST
    by any means, but my in-laws (in their 70's), who live in South FL, have become Hillary supporters. One voted for Romney and the other McCain - had they crossed over they would have voted for Obama at the time.  They've impressed with her fighting spirit.

    Is Hilary going to go to Wyoming and N. Carolina? (none / 0) (#45)
    by Saul on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 07:20:06 AM EST
    I think she needs to go to both.  I would not assume that she could not win these two.

    Nah, not Wyoming (none / 0) (#47)
    by diplomatic on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 07:47:00 AM EST
    But North Carolina is a long way away.  I think it's in May... By then she may have won Pennsylvania and solidified her standing.

    Women in both States need to rise (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by Salt on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 09:09:50 AM EST
    to the opportunity and unite as women behind, Senator Clinton as blacks have behind Obama, its time we elect a competent, capable and ethical woman as President, 230 years has been too long to have waited, is she the right one, hell yeah. Yes this is identify politics it has been since the morning after NH, but the pendulum has only been swinging one distorted way, it is women who really have the power as the largest group in the electorate and in the Dem Party, under represented in Party leadership and SDs by tons I might add, needed to ensure a competitive Dem is nominated and who can win in Nov.

    Hillary is going to Wyoming (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by americanincanada on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:50:13 AM EST
    as are Bill and Chelsea. They are not ignoring the state or giving up the fight there at all. Clinton has even begun, just today, running 60 second ads on radio.

    Hillary's Friday, March 7th visits include a 2:30 p.m. town hall meeting at the Laramie County Community College gymnasium in Cheyenne, followed by a 6:30 p.m. town hall meeting at the Casper College auxiliary gym in Casper. Both events are free and open to the public.

    Bill Clinton is there today campaigning in Riverton, Rock Springs and Laramie.

    Chelsea Clinton is scheduled to appear with her father in Riverton today and then speak at Casper College at 2 p.m.


    Thanks, just added this as an update (none / 0) (#64)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:23:56 PM EST
    to the post.

    SWEET! (none / 0) (#65)
    by americanincanada on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:46:25 PM EST
    I am beyond thrilled that she is not ignoring the state. If she can cut into the caucus lead for Obama...

    Teton County ... (none / 0) (#66)
    by chemoelectric on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:48:05 PM EST
    ... actually is an exclave of California, and Kerry won California, right? :)

    But isn't that also where Cheney has his bogus residence so he could run on the ticket with a fellow non-native Texan? (OT: That's not really fair to Bush, because he did grow up in Texas; I didn't grow up in the state where I was born, either.)