Hillary Clinton Wins Rhode Island

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Posted on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:39:07 PM EST
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CNN calls Rhode Island for Hillary. J. went for dinner. Treat this as an Open Thread.

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Hillary Clinton Wins Rhode Island | 57 comments (57 topical)

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ppst: btd--typo in header on NBC thread... (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:41:36 PM EST

Sure it is a typo? (none / 0) (#2)
by Molly Bloom on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:43:18 PM EST

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man, (none / 0) (#8)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:50:20 PM EST

I was really hoping he'd erase that so I didn't look like a pedantic twit. Too late!

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: Well somebody's gotta do it. (none / 0) (#11)
by Molly Bloom on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:51:49 PM EST

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Fineman is such a hockey puck... (5.00 / 2) (#4)
by Maria Garcia on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:43:36 PM EST

He can detect no joy in the Clinton camp, just grim determinition. Funny how Candy Crowley doesn't see it that way.

: Renaming It (5.00 / 1) (#26)
by Athena on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:59:25 PM EST

MSNBO.

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at dKos they're ecstatic over Fineman's disinfo (5.00 / 5) (#5)
by Jim J on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:46:40 PM EST

as well as calling all Ohioans racists because they didn't vote 80 percent for the One True Messiah.

They are truly shameless opportunists with no moral center to speak of. I'll be honest, I cannot stand them, nor their lily-livered fairweather candidate.

You're gonna have to (none / 0) (#14)
by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:53:36 PM EST

get over the anger.

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Nope, we're just gonna channel it (5.00 / 3) (#20)
by Cream City on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:55:35 PM EST

to focus it as energy for the months ahead.

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: It'll come in handy (none / 0) (#33)
by ahazydelirium on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:05:31 PM EST

when I go home to Pennsylvania to help increase her already large margin. :)

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Plenty of folks. . . (5.00 / 6) (#23)
by LarryInNYC on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:57:10 PM EST

have plenty of anger they have to get over. A surprisingly high percentage of them end up on the rec list at Daily Kos.

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So, what's the answer. Did HRC (none / 0) (#27)
by oculus on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:59:32 PM EST

campaign doctor a photo for the ad on how Obama failed to call ONE mtg. of his Senate sub committee?

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You are behind, now she is doing (5.00 / 1) (#32)
by Teresa on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:04:44 PM EST

subliminal advertising. (I don't know what about, I didn't read the diary.)

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By the time this is all over (none / 0) (#48)
by vigkat on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:27:56 PM EST

I swear she will have unlimited powers, including the power to literally pull the earth off it's axis should she need to in order to win. There is something almost Salem witch trial about it.

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: Honestly (none / 0) (#49)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:31:37 PM EST

the Clinton hate from certain elements has been so white-hot over the last few days that I think it's the haters who are going to suffer the most from the burns.

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Pajamas (none / 0) (#56)
by chrisvee on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:02:22 PM EST

It's all about the pajamas. Or so Ann Althouse and DKos tell me.

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Bob, visit there sometime. You wouldn't (5.00 / 2) (#25)
by Teresa on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:58:18 PM EST

believe the hate. It is beyond your imagination. I have been a member there for four years and I can't take it anymore. No Republican site could hate HC worse and I can understand why some are so angry.

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: I lost my TU status Today (none / 0) (#50)
by BarnBabe on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:33:33 PM EST

Guess if you have been avoiding the discussions and hateful diaries for the last month, it just goes away. Oh well. I am sane at least. I think.

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Daily Frat (5.00 / 2) (#31)
by Athena on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:02:35 PM EST

No, the site degenerated beyond all recognition. It's revealed an ugly misogyny on the the left.

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Get over anger? (none / 0) (#35)
by Boston Boomer on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:06:33 PM EST

I don't plan to get over mine anytime soon. I'm enjoying tonight so far though.

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Ohioans racists - no way (none / 0) (#34)
by Salt on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:06:15 PM EST

we just suffered 8 years with a non accomplished Gov who had a name and no experience and the State is almost bankrupt with tons of his corrupt barnacles still under federal investigation or on trial and we don't intimidate easily either.

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Taylor Marsh has info (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by NJDem on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:48:16 PM EST

about the conference call, btw.

So how many times will McCain say... (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by Maria Garcia on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:48:36 PM EST

...My Friends?

: McCain can't pronounce Murica either. (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by Molly Bloom on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:50:58 PM EST

great. I thought we were through with that fake good ole boyism.

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: Until he has one... (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:54:25 PM EST

that doesn't involve money.

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Within 3% in Texas now. (5.00 / 2) (#10)
by Teresa on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:51:16 PM EST

It's a new narrative now -- no more (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by Cream City on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:52:18 PM EST

"he's won all the states since Super Tuesday," blah blah blah. . . . Nope, it's the mouse that roared -- Rhode Island, our smallest state, makes a big noise on behalf of the rest of the voters, who will get their chance.

Yay Rhode Island! (none / 0) (#30)
by chrisvee on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:01:43 PM EST

I just flew to Providence and back today. I saw lots of Clinton signs (including over I-95) and had a feeling it would be a good day for her there despite the rainy weather.

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: Lots of Clinton bumper stickers (none / 0) (#39)
by Boston Boomer on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:08:56 PM EST

here in MA. Ho hum. We don't listen to Kennedy and Kerry here. We just want them to do their jobs and let us decide who we'll vote for.

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Ohio, 21% in, 59%-39% in HRC's favor (nt) (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by Cream City on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:53:49 PM EST

Markos (5.00 / 2) (#17)
by Coldblue on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:54:51 PM EST

is beyond credible;

Exit polls
by kos
Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 03:23:15 PM PST
I don't run exit polls anymore because quite simply, I don't buy them.

And then this

Results Thread #8
by kos
Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 06:27:05 PM PST
Update: CNN calls Rhode Island for Clinton. Her 12-state losing streak has been snapped!
So according to exit polls, Obama won the under-65 vote in all four states. (his emphasis)

Sad to see a crash that bad.

I don't know about you but.... (5.00 / 2) (#22)
by Andy08 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:56:28 PM EST

I certainly well below 65 ...(uh?)

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: (uh?)..? (none / 0) (#28)
by Coldblue on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:00:28 PM EST

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There must be tons of old people in RI (none / 0) (#38)
by Manuel on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:08:32 PM EST

Or is that an aggregate count? If so what were the margins?

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Was any TL blogger on Wolfson's latest (none / 0) (#3)
by oculus on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:43:35 PM EST

conference call?

that conference call ambush (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:52:01 PM EST

was absolutely shameful. It was like listening in through the vent between the boys and girls locker room in high school.

And for those of you keeping score...think Obama will make the phone call to Clinton saying congrats? Or, more likely: think Obama will come to the phone when Clinton calls to congratulate him on Vermont (and anything else)?

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: I imagine Obama will (none / 0) (#19)
by oculus on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:55:02 PM EST

be flying back to Chicago to put out any fires stemming from Rezko trial.

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By how much (none / 0) (#18)
by Andy08 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:54:53 PM EST

did she win RI? Any idea on # of Delegates?

Thanks

: Let's put it this way. . . (3.00 / 2) (#24)
by LarryInNYC on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:57:49 PM EST

the Rhode Island delegation is planning on holding a bridge tournament, if they can find a fourth.

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: good question (none / 0) (#21)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:56:07 PM EST

further, what does Wyoming look like? (Other than red) Any polling there?

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HRC with 0.69% lead in TX (none / 0) (#29)
by RalphB on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:00:34 PM EST

according to SecState website. Number good for 3 minutes.

: McCain looks like a.... (none / 0) (#36)
by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:06:39 PM EST

Potato Bug. It's terrible, but true. Look for yourself.
http://arnica.csustan.edu/photos/animals/Potato_bug_1.jpg

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: That is for the primary only? (none / 0) (#37)
by oculus on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:08:30 PM EST

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Wasn't Obama predicted to win (none / 0) (#40)
by oculus on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:08:57 PM EST

Rhode Island?

I think Clinton (none / 0) (#41)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:11:09 PM EST

had RI locked for a while. According to NBC, the state is populated entirely with elderly, uneducated, poor white women, so it makes sense.

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But, do all those women drink beer? (none / 0) (#46)
by oculus on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:23:33 PM EST

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only when they put in their teeth (5.00 / 1) (#47)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:25:52 PM EST

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Isn't it amazing all those decrepit (none / 0) (#52)
by oculus on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:43:01 PM EST

females ventured out to vote?

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: Clinton air-dropped thousands of Little Rascals (none / 0) (#54)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:45:57 PM EST

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Grr (none / 0) (#42)
by chrisvee on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:11:34 PM EST

Carl Bernstein is an idiot. He just went off for five minutes about how Hillary can't win on pledged delegates no matter what, etc., etc. Uh, doesn't that same reasoning likely apply to Obama? It's coming down to the superdelegates. Then we had to hear how she will need to go SO negative as a result of tonight's results...he is truly a moron. A dangerous moron. I can't believe what passes for political commentary and analysis even on CNN.

MSNBC is unwatchable.

he's the worst there is (5.00 / 3) (#43)
by Jeralyn on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:13:25 PM EST

I've said that at every debate. He is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

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I wonder if tomorrow (5.00 / 1) (#45)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:19:29 PM EST

anyone will wake up and actually do the delegate math and concede that neither candidate will be able to win and that it will all come down to the super d's? Because the only "news" outlet where I've heard that seriously discussed is Fox, and I could only listen to that for about three minutes before the mark of the beast broke out on my forehead.

Maybe SNL will do it. I mean, come on--why is it "tearing the party apart" for her to stay in but it's "uniting the world" for him to do it?

And I would bet a bag of gold that this time last year, Clinton tried to talk Obama into running as her VP and he passed. Just my theory, but there it is for what it's worth.

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: JMHO (none / 0) (#51)
by chrisvee on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:39:26 PM EST

But no -- no one is going to wake up and do the math. I think Hillary would need to win big in TX & OH for that to happen. SNL may be our only hope. I'm starting to feel more positive about TX and less about OH for some reason, but I'm clinging to BTD's 'quick math' from earlier.
That reminds me. Please join me in a small moment here to mourn my dead love for KO. And add Jon Stewart as well. The primary season has claimed many victims.
ITA with your comments about Fox -- but how insane is it that I'm even watching it? I'm turning to them for unbiased coverage...cats are living with dogs, worlds are colliding. By the way...mark fo the beast had me ROFL.
We could have had sixteen years with Clinton and Obama...my dream is shattered.

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Joe Scarborogh on MSNBC (none / 0) (#44)
by gish720 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:17:48 PM EST

Sounds pretty darn good. He's actually talking about the spin on MSNBC

Gergen (none / 0) (#53)
by chrisvee on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:45:42 PM EST

He's in Philly. I'm surprised the city does spontaneously eject him...but I shouldn't be too critical since his take is that the Clinton folks seemed happy this week and felt they would take 3/4 tonight. At least he gives them credit for having some effective spin which is more than NBC and Fineman can do.

Okay, now Gloria Berger is giving us the 'popular vote' vs. 'delegate' win spin. At least she's saying that it's not about the math -- it's about winning and you can't win without winning.

Wow...600 votes apart in TX on CNN with 1.4 million cast.

Toobin calls TX a disgrace. Tell us how you really feel about the caucuses, Jeff.

: Sigh (none / 0) (#55)
by chrisvee on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:47:52 PM EST

That should be 'doesn't spontaneously eject him'. It definitely makes the dubious joke fall flat if you have a typo...Donna Brazile defending caucuses by claiming they build the party base. Yeah, assuming folks don't kill each in the process. :-)

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i believe that was (none / 0) (#57)
by cpinva on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:25:01 PM EST

Nope, it's the mouse that roared --

the grand dutchy of fenwick. great movie. peter sellers did his usual spectacular job. he followed that with stanley kubrick's "dr. strangelove", a character eerily similar to our very own darth cheney.

the Rhode Island delegation is planning on holding a bridge tournament, if they can find a fourth.

unfortunately, tonite's bingo night so.....................!

we kid, with love!

Hillary Clinton Wins Rhode Island | 57 comments (57 topical)

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