More Support for Hillary

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:26:11 PM EST
Tags: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama (all tags)

Share This: Digg!

Update: 10:30 pm MT: She's over $3 million now. That's $85,000.00 in the past hour alone. Thanks in part go to TL readers who contributed (see comments below), you helped push her over the top.

***

For the past three days, Hillary Clinton has been fundraising online with a goal of raising $3 million by midnight, the end of the fundraising quarter. Right now, she's at $2,915,000. $1 million a day for someone the media is counting as down and out isn't bad.

Maya Angelou has a new post up at Hillary's site as part of part of a series in celebration of Women's History Month. The theme: Rise, Hillary, Rise.

She begins with a poem:

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I’ll rise.

She adds,

This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits end, but she has always risen, always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her friends.

More...

Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on her.

There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you’re born a girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But, to become a woman is a serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she occupies.

Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country.

She is the prayer of every woman and man who long for fair play, healthy families, good schools, and a balanced economy.

She declares she wants to see more smiles in the families, more courtesies between men and women, more honesty in the marketplace. Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to what it can become.

She means to rise.

She means to help our country rise. Don’t give up on her, ever.

In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country a wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without sanctimonious piety, without crippling fear.

Rise Hillary. Rise.

This race is not over. There's Pennsylvania, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, North Carolina and more. Obama is spending like gangbusters on advertising in Pennsylvania. He's blanketing the state with ads.

Newsweek reports his latest ad on foreign oil is misleading. The ad is running in PA among other places. He says he doesn't take money from foreign oil. The script:

I'm Barack Obama. I don't take money from oil companies or Washington lobbyists, and I won't let them block change anymore. They'll pay a penalty on windfall profits. We'll invest in alternative energy, create jobs and free ourselves from foreign oil.

Newsweek points out that for the last century, there's been a law preventing "corporations from giving money directly to any federal candidate" So no candidate takes money from oil companies. But, it's worse:

Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

Two of Obama's bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful.

Newsweek even has a handy little chart compiled from information available at OpenSecrets.org.

Oil Company Total Individual Contributions
ExxonMobil $30,850
Hess $5,200
Shell $9,900
Conoco Philips $4,300
Chevron $9,500
BP $6396
Total $66,146

After Hillary's campaign called Obama out on the ad, his campaign responded:

Obama's campaign quickly noted that he didn't take money from political action committees or lobbyists.

But, not only is that not what his ad says,

I don't take money from oil companies or Washington lobbyists,

Newsweek notes " the Obama campaign is trying to create a distinction without very much of a practical difference."

Political action committee funds are pooled contributions from a company's or an organization's individual employees or members; corporate lobbyists often have a big say as to where a PAC's donations go. But a PAC can give no more than $5,000 per candidate, per election. We're not sure how a $5,000 contribution from, say, Chevron's PAC would have more influence on a candidate than, for example, the $9,500 Obama has received from Chevron employees giving money individually.

If you are a Hillary supporter, you can help her by donating to meet the $3 million mark tonight. Obama's less than forthright ads shouldn't be the only ones Pennsylvanians hear.

< Florida: Big Increase in Ex-Offender Voting Requests | Obama's Liberal Survey: Did He or Didn't, Does He or Doesn't He? >

Legal

Nothing on this site should be construed as legal advice. TalkLeft does not give legal advice.

TalkLeft is not responsible for and often disagrees with material posted in the comments section. Read at your own risk.

More Support for Hillary | 84 comments (84 topical)

Readers Must Login or Create an Account to Comment

The entire move to make her drop out (5.00 / 3) (#1)
by nellre on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:34:32 PM EST

The entire move to make her drop out was sexist in my opinion.

Some in progressive blogosphere have been complicit. We need to do better than this!

When you need to go to Faux to get a balance (all negative) you know there's a serious problem.
Journalist have become preachers instead of informers. We have got to do better than this!

Saw 3 Hillary ads (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by BarnBabe on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:37:20 PM EST

and only one Obama out of the Scranton Television stations.

Is she just showing "level" (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by andgarden on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:44:25 PM EST

or are others in circulation?

My absentee ballot goes out tomorrow.

[ Parent ]

: Ok, I don't konw level-Sorry (none / 0) (#57)
by BarnBabe on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 08:33:16 AM EST

It is the same ad if that means level.

[ Parent ]

I don't think there's any question... (5.00 / 5) (#3)
by Jerrymcl89 on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:39:23 PM EST

... that efforts to muscle Hillary out of the race cut both ways, and generally rally her supporters. I think Obama actually knows this, unlike many of his surrogates.

I think Obama actually knows (5.00 / 2) (#17)
by Prabhata on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:06:12 PM EST

Obama has been pushing HRC to quit since before TX and OH by using his surrogates. These surrogates have used "the math" or other talking points from Obama's camp. It has been a campaign within a campaign and the person at the top, Obama, is responsible for that push.

[ Parent ]

So... (none / 0) (#23)
by Alec82 on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:17:55 PM EST

...should I now, without any basis, simply believe that Senator Clinton is responsible for everything said by her surrogates?

[ Parent ]

: Why not? (5.00 / 1) (#38)
by herb the verb on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:54:31 PM EST

You probably do already, so now you have permission.

[ Parent ]

Maya Angelou is a beautiful soul. (5.00 / 7) (#5)
by Joan in VA on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:41:19 PM EST

Her words make me happy to be a woman in a world with other women.

Now I gotta go scratch up some cash for Hillary, a woman trying to make this country a better place for us all.

Maya is amazing. (3.50 / 2) (#9)
by 1jpb on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:50:45 PM EST

And so is HRC.

We have two great candidates.

And honest people can disagree.

[ Parent ]

Alice Walker (5.00 / 1) (#61)
by hopeyfix on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 09:23:05 AM EST

... lost any of my respect after this open letter. It is one of the most non-sense and bitter things I've read in quite a while.

[ Parent ]

: Looking at (none / 0) (#70)
by 1jpb on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:03:31 PM EST

Walker and others (even, to some extent, Rice this week) can take two routes, 1) assume she's crazy, or some lesser dismissal of her as unworthy of consideration, or 2) ask why does she think as she does, ask could she ever think more like mainstream (which is white, as is a numeric reality) Americans, ask is there any hint of truth in what she thinks?
I'm intrigued by her (and others in the last couple of weeks) POV, I appreciate the honest and sincere telling of her beliefs, which are not mine. But, my own beliefs remain unchanged. Change doesn't come easily.
*Take that last sentence; throw in logic and the context of my comments, and you'll find that the second to last sentence is at once reinforced and discredited:
On the surface, if I believe the last sentence, how can I not believe the preceding sentence.
But there's a problem. If I assume that the last sentence applies equally to people of all hues, how can I not acknowledge that if Walker (et. al.) continues to believe racism exists, it must be true that people continue to have racist beliefs. The only "out" is to assume white folks are inherently more capable of changing their beliefs, but minorities are less capable of change. Or, do I acknowledge that all people are equally slow to change, including white people? In other words, is it possible that minorities do have more difficulties unrelated to racism than may be acknowledged/confronted by the community, but they also have a lot of racist hurdles that white folks are not willing/able to acknowledge/confront. The motivation for both groups is the avoidance of self-implication . In this chicken and egg scenario, it's hard to side with the party whose lingering legacy (i.e. resistance to change) is the oppression of others.

[ Parent ]

That first column you link to (3.66 / 3) (#13)
by andgarden on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:55:32 PM EST

is borderline deranged.

[ Parent ]

So Obama doesn't even take money (5.00 / 2) (#7)
by FlaDemFem on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:47:13 PM EST

from the PAC he started in DC when he first got there? Then what did he set it up for? I am so tired of him lying like a rug and getting away with it. He acts as if he expects people to believe stuff just because he says it. Bush does that too. I don't believe either one of them. Hillary may get some things mixed up, like her trips a decade or more ago, but she is basically truthful about how she is funding her campaign and what she has done in her career. Obama seems to be making it up as he goes along. I mean, how can people actually trust someone who can't keep his own stories straight? And then expects people to swallow the latest version without question? How stupid does he think we are??

: Obama is Just Making It Up As He Goes Along (none / 0) (#83)
by Folkwolf101 on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 01:56:56 PM EST

Obama is Just Making It Up As He Goes Along. Thank you for this article. It is on the money with everything you say. Alas, the unwitting media has been his chief surrogates in getting him nominated. He has lied and proven disengenuous so many times, it is not even SNL-funny. While they catch Hillary on every single faux pas, even ones referring to decades ago, they do not press Obama on anything, such as his donations from oil companies, his fraudulent flyers, his lack of passing legislation, and his relationship with Rezko. Not every voter out there knows how to consult with factcheck.org to find out where his lies lie.
Please, PLEASE, let's all donate to HillaryClinton.com to help her in her time of need.

[ Parent ]

Done (5.00 / 2) (#8)
by nellre on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:48:33 PM EST

Can't really afford it, but I contributed another $100.
It's a really good investment!

: Her campaign bills my visa once (5.00 / 1) (#41)
by hairspray on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:25:17 AM EST

a month. that way I can give more than I can afford in one month spread out, so it doesn't hurt so much.

[ Parent ]

I gave 70 dollars to her two days ago. (5.00 / 5) (#10)
by Saul on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:51:23 PM EST

Not much but I guess it all counts.

: Your 70 dollars counts and helps (5.00 / 3) (#20)
by Prabhata on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:12:07 PM EST

I calculated the average gift per individual was 77 dollars. That was this morning. I convinced my sisters, who have never given a dime to a candidate, to give. They gave 25 and 20 dollars. I added to to make it an even 100.

[ Parent ]

The fight continues (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by IKE on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:51:40 PM EST

I am glad that Hillary has chosen to fight rather than give in to what Leaky Leahy has to say. He's no body but an idiot senator from a small homogeneous state with no diversity. His view is narrow as is his opinion.

Watch it, bub (5.00 / 2) (#39)
by gyrfalcon on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:00:42 AM EST

Dump on Leahy all you want, but dumping on Vermont is just plain stupid. The people in this state embody Democratic values more than any other in the country. Our house speaker is a woman, and you won't find stronger, more respected women anywhere in the world than in farm country. Our legislature came within a hair's breadth of formally telling our one congressman to file articles of impeachment on Bush. Our other senator, overwhelmingly elected, is an outspoken socialist.

It's true our population isn't all that diverse, but it's not because people of all kinds aren't fully welcomed and accepted here. The frozen north isn't exactly the most popular place in the country to relocate. But we were the first state in the union to outlaw slavery and one of the first to abolish the death penalty.

My tiny farm town happily elected a married gay man with two adopted African-American daughters to the school committee. There are very few communities, and I venture to say no farm communities, anywhere else in the country where that could happen without major controversy.

If Leahy is behaving like a jerk, it's not because he's reflecting his constituents.

[ Parent ]

From another Vermonter! (5.00 / 1) (#46)
by alexei on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:28:53 AM EST

Absolutely, Leahy can go but don't dish the State.

[ Parent ]

Bernie Sanders! (5.00 / 1) (#51)
by magisterludi on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 05:51:21 AM EST

and, i believe (4.50 / 2) (#56)
by cpinva on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:35:47 AM EST

they make really great maple syrup there too! :)

actually, the dems have only one really good candidate, sen. clinton. sen. obama has delusions of mediocrity. had he a shred of honor, he'd gracefully bow out now, recognizing his complete lack of electability in nov.

but no, it's pretty much all about obama, not the party or the country. he speaks eloquently, with dulcet tones, while saying nothing much at all. his actual resume' is thin gruel by comparison to sen. clinton's. the list of his negatives, real or imagined, grows daily.

he will be trounced in nov., should he be the dem. nominee. he knows it, his campaign knows it, the party leadership knows it. it's the 800 lb. gorilla in the corner, that no one wants to talk about, lest they be accused of racism. better, i suppose, to be a raving mysogonist than a racist, i guess.

those who supported him, especially among the party leadership, will wake up the day after the election, with an "obama hangover", wondering what happened, and what they were thinking.

sen. obama, i implore you, for the good of the democratic party and the nation, please, please do the right and honorable thing; quit now, while it still looks like you're ahead! save your career for the future, after you've actually got a body of legislative accomplishments to stand on.

i fear, should you continue in your don quixote-like quest, you shall be permanently damaged. the democratic party needs you intact, not as a once upon time wannabe.

[ Parent ]

: Unfortunately, Obama's Ego (none / 0) (#84)
by Folkwolf101 on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 02:09:59 PM EST

is more Obama than Obama is Obama. He thinks he can do a better job than any of our previous presidents, including Bill Clinton and most assuredly the latest Bush. No way will he have the audacity of hope to step down. It is indeed all about him, and his arrogance will not submit to anything before him.
I will donate, and I will be at her breakfast tomorrow in San Francisco donating another $250. Every little bit counts.
Please vote through HillaryClinton.com

[ Parent ]

Gave another $100 tonight (5.00 / 7) (#18)
by herb the verb on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:07:12 PM EST

I know it's a long shot for her, and I'm about tapped out, but still, it is important to try and important to support someone who can fight as hard as Hillary. The alternative is a four-year Obama (best case scenario) and at worst a four-year McCain. I don't believe either of those characters will last more than 4 years.

Her campaign really blew it last Nov.-Jan., but she has amazing willpower and you can never count someone like that out. I honestly think the Republicans would be shaking in their boots if they thought she actually would pull it off.

Plus, I'm actually wondering if supporting a party and candidate that would disenfranchize two major swing states just to prove their point on the one hand, and win an nomination on the other is a principle worth caving on.

: Don't worry. (1.00 / 1) (#45)
by jtaylorr on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:43:00 AM EST

I gave $2,300 to Kucinich. so I know what it feels like to give money to a candidate who has no chance of winning.

[ Parent ]

I also gave again (5.00 / 7) (#27)
by nycstray on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:28:24 PM EST

even though I told myself I was over my personal limit this month. Here's hoping my clients keep to their good paying habits and Hillary makes her 3 mil PLUS $$$$!

Maya Angelou's (5.00 / 5) (#33)
by Andy08 on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:39:27 PM EST

poem and post are incredible. Thanks for posting this.

And yes, we did it!!

good on ya (5.00 / 1) (#34)
by proudliberaldem on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:41:20 PM EST

just checked on the donation tally -- we did it!!!

: Congratulations... (none / 0) (#77)
by diogenes on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:10:26 PM EST

While this site pushes donating to support Hillary's ultra-long shot (remember, Rocky lost in Rocky I too), Kos is pushing donations for a Blue Majority in Congress.

[ Parent ]

Jeralyn, mucho thanks (5.00 / 1) (#47)
by Becki Jayne on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 04:27:12 AM EST

You and BTD have done an outstanding job. Thanks for being a bright spot in the blogosphere and delivering information voters need to know.

Props!

Now let's go help Hillary rise by sending her $ome love.

I donated a little bit more (4.83 / 6) (#40)
by caseyOR on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:07:03 AM EST

Until this campaign I had never given money to a presidential candidate. State and local,yeah, but never a president. I've been voting since the 70s, and Hillary is the first democratic candidate I have really liked. Yeah, I wanted Gore to win. I knew he'd be good, and I am a big fan of Bill, but there is something different about Hillary.

After all those "at least he's not a republican" votes for Carter and Mondale and Dukakis and Kerry--

Maybe it's because I was so committed to Bobby Kennedy. I was 16 in 1968, so I couldn't vote, but I would have walked across the country on hot coals to campaign for Bobby. He, like Hillary, was someone who was tested so harshly in his life ( and , yes, I do know that what Hillary has gone through is not quite the same as having your brother assassinated.) But both Bobby and Hillary grew as people from living through terrible times. They both became even more thoughtful and compassionate and, yes, passionate.

When all the Kennedy brouhaha was going on, I just did not see the comparisons Teddy and others were making. Both JFK and, even more so, RFK, became the men we all remember because of some extremely difficult and trying circumstances in their lives. Hillary has also lived through difficult times.

I don't see the same thing in Barack. No, he did not live the spoiled and privileged life of say George W. Bush, but I just do not see where he has had to live through and grow from, harsh times. He seems to have been pretty much a golden boy.

I know this is a bit long, and I hope I haven't gone too far off topic. I've been thinking about this for a very long time now, and I am still trying to work it all out. Thanks for listening.

Life experience counts the most! (5.00 / 1) (#54)
by sleepingdogs on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:00:26 AM EST

I just do not see where he has had to live through and grow from, harsh times. He seems to have been pretty much a golden boy.

This has been my issue with BO as well. He has never dealt with extreme adversity and does not show the maturity and humilty that come from such experiences. This has alway been my argument about the 'experience' factor. Let him suffer through the balance of the Wright and Rezko fallout, let him raise 2 teenage daughters to adulthood, let him suffer setbacks in his senate career, then I would know enough about him to trust him as President. For now, I can't.

It makes me physically ill thinking of handing over the reins to him, or anyone else with so little proven track record. Come back on 4 or 8 years, BO. For now, learn all you can, prove yourself and leave this to someone who knows what the world is about and how it works.

Yes, you can make the argument that Bill was young and immature. But so was Bush. The country is in really lousy shape right now. I need a track record, not ideals, when I consider where to place my trust.

[ Parent ]

Ask my brother and sister... (none / 0) (#69)
by Dadler on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 11:31:16 AM EST

...if being multi-racial has been easy. My sister, for one, has dealt with sexism AND racism in her career. My brother, in the Marines, and able to pass for an Arab (and "valuable" to the military because of it) hasn't had an easy ride either. They both straddle two worlds, and have trouble being comfortable in either. Like many folks similar to them.

I find this line of thinking about Obama, whom I'm no partisan of, both offensive and ignorant. The notion a fairly priveleged white woman named Hillary Clinton fought or suffered more is ridiculous.

They both have experienced much, but that experience is entirely unique and individual. And that is it.

[ Parent ]

I am not trying to convey that (none / 0) (#72)
by sleepingdogs on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:11:56 PM EST

Barack's life has been a cake walk. Nor did I say that being bi-racial does not come with difficulties. (In fact, I don't recall mentioning race or gender in my post in any way, shape or form.) But I have not seen enough of how he handles set backs in his work or in his personal life to place my trust in him to be president.

[ Parent ]

Cakewalk? (1.00 / 1) (#76)
by squeaky on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:06:48 PM EST

Surprised that you did not say cottonpicking cakewalk:

The cakewalk's original meaning was lost; where it had originally been black slaves attempt to mock their superiors and for a minute live in autonomy, it had come to be the bumbling attempts of poor blacks to mimic the manners of whites.


[ Parent ]

definition of cake walk as I used the term (none / 0) (#78)
by sleepingdogs on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:35:02 PM EST

3 a: a one-sided contest b: an easy task

I had no idea of ANY racial meaning and am guilty of a poor choice of words---althought completely innocently. Thank you for enlightening me and please forgive my oversight.

I'd really appreciate it if you would stop looking for offense where none is intended. See my original comment. It is not an attack on anyone---and certainly not a comment based upon race or gender. It is my opinion. I was responding to another commenter's observation.

[ Parent ]

If You Do Not Want (1.00 / 1) (#79)
by squeaky on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 04:34:50 PM EST

Appear to be using offensive analogies, do not use them. I cannot know your intention or the level of your ignorance, so your entreaties are falling on deaf ears.

Glad to know that you were not being racist on top of being flip.

[ Parent ]

Did you also correct the Bush Admin, when they (none / 0) (#80)
by MMW on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 05:15:59 PM EST

used the term cakewalk to describe the Iraq war? Iraqis are brown after all. This is yet another example of why supporters like you are death knells to campaigns. If you only see him as black, then the problem is with you, not the poster who made no obvious reference to race.

[ Parent ]

: Apologist? (1.00 / 1) (#81)
by squeaky on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 05:31:32 PM EST

Not only was the comment insult but it was just as racist as anything Limbaugh might say. Do you also defend his racist remarks?
And as for Bush using the term regarding the Iraq war, sorry it is not the same thing and clearly not racist.
Cakewalk is not a racist term in most contexts, but you knew that.

[ Parent ]

Three mill forward, fitty back (4.00 / 1) (#50)
by Ellie on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 05:36:06 AM EST

March 31, 2008
50 Cent no longer supports Clinton
50 Cent says he was impressed with Obama's speech on race.
(CNN) - Hillary Clinton appears to have lost a high-profile backer to rival Barack Obama.
Rapper 50 Cent, who told Time magazine last September he was supporting the New York senator's White House bid, now says he has decided to shift his allegiance to Obama.

Yawns all around for this tropic, camera light chasing moment from yet another "celeb" I wish I'd never heard of who yet manages to elbow his way into my newstime.

Fitty cent? Fitty sucks. But since he'e here, I'll tell him he needs to get a melody and stop having lunch on that irritating Sean Paul riddim.

: I really don't think (5.00 / 1) (#53)
by BrandingIron on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 06:38:05 AM EST

anyone cares what 50 thinks and those who do are probably already supporting Obama anyway.

[ Parent ]

Does this mean she'll pay her bills? (4.00 / 1) (#52)
by sar75 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 06:22:22 AM EST

...or at least answer the calls and certified letters sent by people jer campaign has decided not to pay for the time being?

: Try to keep up (5.00 / 1) (#64)
by herb the verb on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 10:08:51 AM EST

They are all paid now, and they appreciate the rat-xxxxing by Obama operatives for that too. Some of them sent out invoices in March for work they did in Feb.. It would be nice if my clients paid me that quickly, that ain't even net 30!
Please tell Obama to pay all of his vendors immediately too, that will show his respect for 'the little guy'.

[ Parent ]

Two points (3.00 / 1) (#4)
by 1jpb on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:40:35 PM EST

The poem isn't new: it's from Jan 20.
The ad is technically true, although it is also true that he doesn't ban American citizens from contributing, even if they work at Exxon (et. al.), which he derides in the ad. But, no lobbyist money is better than yes lobbyist money, and HRC has raised over $300,000 with oil money.

Lobbyists still channel money to his campaign (5.00 / 8) (#12)
by Davidson on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:54:09 PM EST

They're just smart enough to do it under the radar.

[ Parent ]

this sounds a little like (5.00 / 8) (#16)
by bjorn on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:05:30 PM EST

it depends on what the definition of "is" is...Obama is caught red-handed here, sorry.

[ Parent ]

Money from Lobbyists to Obama (5.00 / 4) (#24)
by Prabhata on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:20:54 PM EST

All the other presidential candidates shut down their leadership PACs when they announced their candidacy, but Obama's PAC continued to distribute more than $400,000 to political candidates and parties after Obama entered the ring on Feb. 10, 2007.

"And this money did come from lobbyists and special interest groups," Clinton said.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/409/

The above statement from BC was checked and it's true, but Obama plays with the truth.

[ Parent ]

: Very honest of (3.00 / 1) (#29)
by 1jpb on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:30:16 PM EST

you to post that link.
It shows that this is very gray.

[ Parent ]

you need to read more carefully (5.00 / 4) (#28)
by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:29:11 PM EST

As Obama might say, I said the post is new and she begins with a poem. I didn't say the poem is new.

Technically true. But people will misread it.

[ Parent ]

Thanks for posting the poem (5.00 / 4) (#35)
by nycstray on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:46:17 PM EST

It reminds me every time of a Christmas at my parents' cabin. My mom giving my niece a book of her poems. My niece sat in the recliner and just took in that book :) My niece was in her teens, mom, mid 60's. And dad took some sweet pictures of her all curled up with the book.

sorry for the OT, just a good memory for me.

[ Parent ]

: I was lucky to snag a copy of Pulse of Morning... (none / 0) (#58)
by Maria Garcia on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 08:46:09 AM EST

...signed to my daughter, who was only 8 at the time and she appreciates it even more now.

[ Parent ]

Except he takes money (5.00 / 1) (#30)
by SantaMonicaJoe on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:34:00 PM EST

from state and local lobbyists, and he takes money from people who work at known DC lobby firms (ie, not the registered lobbyist him/herself, but his/her friend across the hall).

Get real.

[ Parent ]

The donations... (3.00 / 1) (#15)
by Alec82 on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:58:59 PM EST

...cut both ways: Senator Clinton has received far more in donations from those who have donated $4,600. Additionally, Senator Obama has received 40% of the donations under $200 as between Senators Clinton, McCain and Obama. She has received nearly $100,000 more from oil and gas and eight times as much from lobbyists. HMOS have favored her, she is even on commercial banks, behind in the tech industry, way ahead from real estate and ahead from insurance.

Since all of this is available on the internet, why don't you just go to www.opensecrets.org and get the information they provide?

because I don't mind (5.00 / 4) (#19)
by bjorn on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:07:37 PM EST

that she takes their money, and she is not the one acting "holier than thou" about it.

[ Parent ]

My guess is that she knows quite (5.00 / 1) (#44)
by hairspray on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:35:19 AM EST

well that the money does not compromise her.

[ Parent ]

She would (1.00 / 1) (#49)
by Wile ECoyote on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 04:42:59 AM EST

be the first politician in history that is not compromised by the taking money. Ah the cult of Hill. What color is the sky in that world?

[ Parent ]

: It's blue most of the time.... (none / 0) (#59)
by Maria Garcia on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 08:48:05 AM EST

..and when the sun is too bright we wear sunglasses. And when it rains, get this, we tend to remember our umbrellas!

[ Parent ]

Amen (5.00 / 2) (#48)
by Becki Jayne on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 04:31:45 AM EST

That "holier than thou" routine... troubling, especially when it isn't true.

[ Parent ]

Hello? (5.00 / 6) (#21)
by angie on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:12:52 PM EST

Hillary isn't the one running an ad saying she doesn't take money from oil companies -- that is a vital part of this equation.

[ Parent ]

Well, he doesn't take money from the oil companies (1.00 / 1) (#22)
by Alec82 on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:16:40 PM EST

...but yeah, he takes money from individuals who work for them. The ad may be misleading, but not horribly so. And it is completely inaccurate to say that "ExxonMobil, Shell and others are among his donors," as Phil Singer did.

[ Parent ]

Oil companies can't give money (5.00 / 4) (#37)
by RalphB on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:50:17 PM EST

it's illegal, so that's a poor distinction.

[ Parent ]

: Cut the man some slack, Jack (none / 0) (#55)
by Ellie on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:11:42 AM EST

Obama also didn't shoot a man in Reno just to watch him die but everything else he's ridden around the block at least once. Refraining from going after some poor fictional schmuck for real practically borders on saintly given all of his own standards he's broken (and apparently never intended to uphold anyway.)
That old scool crap, he's done more egregiously in degree and frequency than the rottenest and most rancid old school dirtbag this side of Rove.
Obama Rules Note to self: get supporter to go after Hillary for doing routine political stuff. Imply the shot man in Reno thing and see who runs with it.

[ Parent ]

Exelon (none / 0) (#66)
by abfabdem on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 10:17:28 AM EST

Don't forget Exelon is a big Obama contributor and some reporting that nuke-related legislation in Illinois a few years ago was watered down by him due to this influence.

[ Parent ]

: U.S. Senate (none / 0) (#67)
by ColumbiaDuck on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 10:43:33 AM EST

It was actually more recent than that. It was while he was in the U.S. Senate. NY Times has the story here.

[ Parent ]

HRC has not denied taking PAC money (5.00 / 5) (#26)
by Prabhata on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:25:24 PM EST

In fact she defended her position in a debate.

[ Parent ]

: I remember this (5.00 / 6) (#42)
by blogtopus on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:29:01 AM EST

She got a lot of flack for that. People were just about jumping up and down screaming 'SEE? SEEEE? SHE ADMITS IT!!!'
Props to the girl who prefers to say it like it is, not how she wants it to look.

[ Parent ]

Wish I could contribute more but (none / 0) (#14)
by RalphB on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:56:51 PM EST

I'm now max'ed out. However, if there is a pro-Hillary 527 which could use a few bucks, I'd like to know about it.

Emily's List (none / 0) (#25)
by Prabhata on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:23:48 PM EST

Is pro Hillary, but I'm not sure they will use the money specifically for HRC. I know they've put some TV ads for her.

[ Parent ]

There was a 527 that Obama supporters (none / 0) (#31)
by nycstray on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:35:10 PM EST

were up in arms about (which doesn't seem to have done the horrible things they were-pre-accused of) so try google?

Also check with endorsers. Obama had Union endorsers that were spending money on ads for Ohio, so maybe there's some Union or 'group' endorsers that are planning to run ads for her. I would call her campaign headquarters and check.

[ Parent ]

: I understand Obama outspent (none / 0) (#43)
by hairspray on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:33:04 AM EST

Hillary in Ohio by almost 2-1. I guess he is doing to try to put up the firewall in PA. Most of the time money talks, but I hope the PA folks are too smart to see through his twisting and turning.

[ Parent ]

American Leadership Project (none / 0) (#32)
by nell on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:36:04 PM EST

could use the funds. They ran last minute ads in Ohio and Texas promoting Hill but not attacking Barack. I am maxed out so I am planning on contributing to them soon.

[ Parent ]

Thanks, don't have that much to give (5.00 / 1) (#36)
by RalphB on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 11:49:02 PM EST

but, what the heck, it seems the worthiest cause to me right now.

[ Parent ]

: Poor you (none / 0) (#65)
by herb the verb on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 10:13:55 AM EST

Willie, you don't need to worry about being suspended unless you personally attack people or chatter. But if you want to have a martyr complex, that is up to you.
Yes, Jeralyn is pro-Clinton, didn't you get the news flash? Also Big Tent Democrat who also posts here is tepid pro-Obama. But not one of those Obama supporters who believes he can do no wrong.
Just like I'm a Clinton supporter who doesn't believe she can do no wrong.

[ Parent ]

Man... (none / 0) (#62)
by proseandpromise on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 09:48:24 AM EST

Maya Angelou is a great endorsement. I'm firm in my support of Obama (but I'll vote for Clinton if she wins) but if I was undecided and less interested in the campaign, Angelou's endorsement would hold some major sway. I have incredible respect for her. I'm glad to hear that she is still bringing her incredible voice to American politics.

Thanks, Jeralyn (none / 0) (#63)
by madamab on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 09:51:54 AM EST

for another positive and uplifting piece about Hillary.

She is "in it to win it," not whining and begging that her opponent give up.

She is our only chance to beat McCain in November. Obama just doesn't have the spine or the fight to withstand the Republican slime machine.

How's the saying go? (none / 0) (#68)
by kdog on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 10:58:45 AM EST

A fool and his/her money are easily parted?

I should know, I dropped a hundo at OTB on Sunday. But at least I got action for my buck, what are you all buying, pipe dreams of a government by, of, and for the people? Ha!

If that's what you wanna buy, give to Nader...at least he'd deliver if the electorate ever gave him a chance. A donation to Hillary is a donation to Walmart or Boeing...Obama and McCain too.

aw willie, don't be that way (none / 0) (#71)
by cpinva on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:04:20 PM EST

guy! we love you obama supporters here. really, really, we do! ok, i made that up, I love the obama supporters here, i have no business speaking for anyone else.

i love it when they come here, all excited like, and breathlessly deliver to us some previously "unknown" insight into the heart & mind of the vicious hillary! she tortures puppies, abuses babies and murders virgins, to bathe in their blood, all in a day's work! it's true! they had it on (name of your favorite "obama blog" here), it must be so!

that most of us probably already know what you've just recently discovered likely never enters your mind.

i especially enjoy the heartfelt pleading for sen. clinton to "do the right thing" and quit now, so sen. obama can take his rightful place as the heir to jack kennedy. very touching really. hits just the right notes of stridency and abject fear.

so please, do continue coming by, and leaving droppings that we need to "read between the lines" to figure out.

kdog, such cynicism dude!

should i assume you don't plan on voting in the presidential election? and please, do spare me the "nader all things good and right, everyone else bad!" nonsense, it's just obama with a bad haircut.

mr. nader is essentially a one-trick pony. it was a pretty good trick i'll grant you, but still only one. frankly, i kind of wish he'd stuck to it, he did far more good there.

: I plan on voting.... (none / 0) (#74)
by kdog on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:54:23 PM EST

just not for a democrat or republican.
It will be Nader, or Kubby, or maybe Bob Barr. Ventura, Bloomberg...heck, the bag lady collecting cans outside the supermarket...I'm not that picky. My only requirement is they bring a big wrench to Washington to throw in the machine.
I don't know how you could compare Obama and Nader with a straight face. Obama is establishment business as usual, he's a lot closer to McCain than Nader.

[ Parent ]

Champions (none / 0) (#73)
by Vern on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:27:28 PM EST

I am a huge sports fan. Even with time expiring, no champion should ever quit! There are buzzer beaters, field goals with no time left, and walk off home runs that snatch victory from the jaws of defeat! A real champion can take a punch and shake it off. A real champion would never say to an opponent, I know there is still time, and you really want to win, so I'll just lay down for you! No, a real champion makes you earn it! A true champion leaves it all on the battlefield! Hillary Clinton has had many chances to crawl in a hole and cover her head. She has been slapped around by the press, humiliated by her mate, and accused of every personal failing in the book, but she just keeps on coming back! BHO may win, but I'm counting on the heart of the champions in all of us to give HRC, the comeback victory of all time! This is not little league with the 10 run rule! Champions fight to the finish! No victory is as sweet as the ones you get from just staying close, until the last second and taking what all but the faithful said you would never have! Rise Hillary Rise!

All this "Risin'".... (none / 0) (#75)
by kdog on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:56:28 PM EST

are we talkin' about a crooked pol or the messiah here...I'm confused.

How to get more votes (none / 0) (#82)
by T on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 09:49:01 PM EST

I have been big fan to Mrs Clinton until her comment that the govvernment needs to be tougher to the chinese. (Actually I do not have the right to vote).

What is she talking about? Be tougher to a group of people who have just experienced some terrible events? How about be tougher to one's husband first.

Go Senator Clinton Go! We support you!! (none / 0) (#85)
by jerrydtx on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 11:32:06 PM EST

Hillary is a fighter and will NOT be written off by the media! I remember how hard we all worked before the first primary in Iowa sending Hillary money and blogging on the Hillary Clinton website. Then Hillary lost Iowa and the media and many were calling for her to drop out of the race. This was such a big farce!!..since Hillary had come in the front-runner and they were going to sink her candidacy on the basis of ONE STATE. Iowa...which by the way...was won by the Obama campaign's brilliant but very manipulative techniques of working the caucuses.

Hillary then surprised the media...but not her millions of supporters! and WON New Hampshire. It wasn't her candid moment either that won NH! (once again the media undermining her... it was her months of campaigning and extremely solid support in New Hampshire which won this state!)

Then Senator Clinton went on to do extremely well and WON in the large states where she campaigned and had built strong organizations...like California and New York and WON in other states! She tied Senator Obama on Super Tuesday and beat him in the popular vote....also adding Fla and Michigan. which she WON....The media called Super Tuesday a draw.

Then came the 12 smaller state losing streak....most of these losses came from the Obama campaign's caucusing expertise..which had been the Clinton campaign's weak point...and racial preferences although inroads were made into some of Hillary's base.

The media wanted to end the campaign then and FORGET the millions of voters and states Senator Clinton had won! Hah! There are 50 states in this Union!! The Clinton Family fought back!! They are tough as nails and won Rhode Island, Ohio and Texas!

Hillary also surprised pundits numerous times coming back with millions of $s from her supporters during times of need!

These wins brought Hillary squarely back into the race and she is poised for another win in Pennsylvania!

Once again the Obama team helped manipulate the caucuses in TX to get delegates but the Clinton camp has learned from their mistakes and they are turning out their supporters for all future caucuses.

This whole concerted effort to "IGNORE" a very close race which either candidate could win is nothing short of astounding!!! Hillary and her million of supporters are not going to let anyone push us to the back of the bus or be manipulated by political press techniques. We are fighting back!!!.. Fighting back hard and we are supporting Senator Hillary Clinton all the way to the White House! Senator Clinton is the champ!! Hillary for President!!