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Periodically, The Media Accuses Hillary Of Mood Swings

By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only.

Media Matters documents this. I am sure I am just being hysterical here in seeing this also. Nah, I am a man. I can not be hysterical. But I am a hot head. Latino man. Check. That description works.

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    I am the hysterical female that agrees with you!!! (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by athyrio on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:03:20 PM EST


    TL Fundraiser In Progress (none / 0) (#107)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 08:54:24 PM EST
    ******************
    Don't mind me, I'm just tucking in here with a fund-raising suggestion:

    Let's all donate something tonight before we logout, no matter how big or small - according to our individual means.

    Heads up: I'll be posting this elsewhere tonight at TL.

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    Just DID! (none / 0) (#108)
    by AmyinSC on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 08:55:58 PM EST
    :-)

    I am seriously considering terminating my monthly contributions to truthout and switching it to TalkLeft!

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    There will be blood (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by kmblue on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:15:33 PM EST
    periodically.

    OUCH (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:16:34 PM EST
    Not at her age. (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by echinopsia on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:23:38 PM EST
    OUCH again (none / 0) (#20)
    by RalphB on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:37:06 PM EST
    Technically, there could be.... (none / 0) (#53)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:34:17 PM EST
    ...but it wouldn't be a good thing.

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    There will be testosterone (none / 0) (#54)
    by Cream City on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:34:54 PM EST
    going up, then. That's what I used to say to guys in my workplace who dismissed my concerns as from "monthly moods." I said, just wait until I'm menopausal -- that means while your testosterone is going down, mine will be going up!

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    And that's not a bad thing (none / 0) (#55)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:36:23 PM EST
    The proliferation of this kind of thing (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:17:33 PM EST
    shows you just how acceptable it still is to be sexist; substitute racially-charged language in the Media Matters-quoted material, and I shudder to think what the result would be.

    America may never be ready for a woman or a person of color to be president; sadly, I have the feeling that for an awful lot of people, never would be way too soon.

    Can I just say that (5.00 / 6) (#6)
    by Dr Molly on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:18:29 PM EST
    having been long surrounded in a work environment (academia) by men who seem to feel that they must constantly deny that sexism exists, BTD is extremely refreshing.

    I had a prof last quarter (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:39:39 PM EST
    (I'm working on a second bachelor's at 45 yrs, anyway).

    Prof and her husband were eligible for tenure IN THE SAME DEPARTMENT at about the same time.  Unfortunately they have a disabled child and they both had to miss a fair amount of work to care for him.

    Husband breezed through and obtained tenure.

    (Female) prof and wife experienced this:  "We're a little concerned about how much work you're missing".

    She finally DID obtain tenure, but it was a fight.

    Nope, no sexism in academia!

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    Well, THAT came out of the blue (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by goldberry on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:24:52 PM EST
    It's obviously all in your head.  

    BTD? You? (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by kredwyn on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:29:26 PM EST
    Mood swings?

    I'm shocked...amazed even.

    Why I have always found you stalwart in your possession of an almost Vulcan control of your emotions.

    ;-P

    <hugs>

    Analytical and calm. (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:49:24 PM EST
    That's why he's had to ban himself ;-) (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:58:05 PM EST
    The analytical and calm BTD (none / 0) (#38)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:02:26 PM EST
    puts the other BTD in timeout on occassion ;)  The response of a mature caring adult aiding those less mature.

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    The Fight (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by talkingpoint on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:11:19 PM EST
    against women in power continues.How can this nation point the finger against the middle East for women discrimination when we are no different?

    Wow (none / 0) (#45)
    by flyerhawk on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:12:55 PM EST
    Like hyperbole much?

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    sexism (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by mindfulmission on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:23:44 PM EST
    I also have been disgusted by the sexist attacks against Hillary Clinton, and I say that as a white male supporter of Barack Obama.

    It has become even clearer over the last couple of months that sexism is alive and well in this country.  

    Now... I do not necessarily think that sexism is more prevalent than racism (or vice versa).  But I do think that sexism is much more publicly accepted than racism.  

    I think that racism is also still alive and well, but it is more hidden, right below the surface.  Sexism, on the hand, is allowed to come out in full force.  And that really, really saddens me.  Especially when such sexism comes from those who call themselves progressive.

    Now... I do not believe that every attack against Hillary is sexist, and it also saddens me to see many people (including people commenting here on TL) say that any attack on Hillary is because she is a woman, just as it disturbs me to see people claim that attacking Obama is racist.  I do think that it is important to remember that both candidates have very legitimate issues to "attack" them on.  Their race/gender are not among those issues.

    And by the way... I am most definitely more moody than my wife.  :)

    I don't think (none / 0) (#59)
    by Lena on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:40:17 PM EST
    that anyone here has said that every attack on Clinton is because she's a woman, or is owing to sexism.

    In fact, there's plenty to criticize about both candidates without bringing in gender or race at all.

    It's just that HRC has been rather consistently attacked with a sexist subtext in the background (or in some cases, in the foreground). And, as you say, since sexism is more accepted, even among Democrats, many refuse to see it. Meanwhile, anything racist has been tamped down. When calling Obama "show-offy" has been mangled to show racism, you can see how much more racism is decried by our fellow Democrats than sexism.

    The attacks that BTD has brought up for discussion are ones where sexism was arguably involved. Lots of Obama supporters chose to mock the very idea.

    BTW, my spouse (male!) is more moody than me too. I sense that's supposed to be  unusual, but I imagine that moodiness (and mood swings) is split about evenly between men and women.

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    hmm... (none / 0) (#79)
    by mindfulmission on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:46:17 PM EST
    I don't think that anyone here has said that every attack on Clinton is because she's a woman, or is owing to sexism.
    Sorry, but I disagree.

    I have seen numerous examples of people using the sexist attack against anything negative about Clinton.  

    Again... sexism exists.  And sexism has clearly existed in this primary campaign.  

    I am not denying that at all.  And I am condemning it.  AND rejecting it.  AND denouncing it.  :)

    I just think that it does more harm than good to assert that certain attacks are sexist/racist that really have nothing to do with sexism/racism.

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    Huh? What charge? (none / 0) (#80)
    by mindfulmission on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:49:23 PM EST
    While I agree with you that sexism is not necessarily behind this, this charge is simply not true
    I have no idea what charge you are referring to that isn't true.  

    And I pretty much agree with everything that you said, as far as I can tell.

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    racism & sexism in prison nation (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by wreck on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 05:26:40 PM EST
    As someone who thinks Clinton has gotten slapped with some pretty gross misogyny, I'm interested in the statement I frequently hear popping up in these debates about the relative acceptability of racism and sexism. Specifically those along the lines of "But I do think that sexism is much more publicly accepted than racism." In some sense that it true, but in another sense, not at all.

    Looking at the Pew Report just posted, we see that 1 out of 9 black male adults is in jail. The racism visible in this statistic, given the proportional population of this country, should be obvious to those who are intellectually honest. Moreover, the history of incarceration makes it clear that it was/is a means of perpetuating slavery by another name and white supremacy (the 13th amendment states, "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States").

    It is racism, it's not under the surface, and it seems largely acceptable to most Americans. I guess I just wonder why it is we don't see it as "on the surface"? That's a huge chunk of people to just disappear. Perhaps "disappear" is the operative word...

    racism exists, but those Pew report statistics are not helpful.

    For example, according the Pew report, 1 out of 14 adults in jail are men.

    Would you suggest that sexism is visible in this statistic, given the proportional population of this country?

    No big deal, just saying...

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    pew stats are telling (none / 0) (#102)
    by wreck on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:33:02 PM EST
    The stats are helpful when you interpret them. The discrepancy between white men and black men is statistically significant, the racial telling point; same with women of color and white women.

    Plus, you can tell something about sexism in this country from the statistics too. Why put women in prison when the state does just fine controlling the lives and liberties of women without jail?  

    Failing that, women are the fastest-growing sector of the prison population, especially in the aftermath of the dismantling of the welfare system.

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    yes (none / 0) (#103)
    by Kathy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:44:01 PM EST
    and a lot of women are in prison because they were holding for their boyfriends, who told them they would get lighter sentences.

    Death row is still not fully equal, but I am not going to complain about that bit of sexism.

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    that's so true (none / 0) (#104)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:49:46 PM EST
    It is truly an art.

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    The question isn't if racism is more prevalent (none / 0) (#114)
    by esmense on Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 11:39:02 AM EST
    ...than sexism. It is whether it is more acceptable to, in terms of public discourse, display overt sexism than racism.

    We live in a culture in which the kind of incarceration rates that young black men endure is more acceptable, that is, less decried as racist, than suggesting that a African American candidate's claims about the consistency of his anti-war stance is a "fairy tale."

    Now that is genuinely absurd and morally disgusting. So why is it so?

    My personal opinion about this is that a great deal of liberal emphasis on "politically correct" speech is in fact an expression of hidden (unconcious?) liberal racism. What do I mean by that? Well, I think many liberals don't want to offend blacks because they are, at heart, afraid of them.

    Once you recognize that fear, you can see more clearly why a culture might incarcerate African Americans at an immoral rate, yet, go into hysterics about language that may offend them.

    Sexist talk is more open and prevalent because women aren't feared.

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    Mood swings (3.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:19:11 PM EST

    Aren't mood swings 100% normal?  Anyone that is happy all of the time, or sad all of the time, or angry all of the time, or worried all of the time, or never worried is abnormal.  Accusing HRC of being normal is a hoot.

    Indeed it would be a hoot (none / 0) (#9)
    by RalphB on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:22:11 PM EST
    if it didn't work for big media to paint her as somehow unstable.  That is the subtext after all and it is pathetic.


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    Won't stick (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:28:23 PM EST

    The unstability tag probablw won't stick.  IMO, between HRC and Bill, HRC has the better part of the stability quotient, and just about everybody knows it.  If I had to pick the most stable of BHO, HRC, and Johny Mac, I'd have to go with HRC.

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    No kidding (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by RalphB on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:36:06 PM EST
    I agree with you.  I'm just not sure how the "bubbas" will take it.


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    The instaility tag (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Lena on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:40:54 PM EST
    does and will stick. It's because it plugs into lots of people's preconceived notions of what women are and how they behave.

    Saying that Obama has mood swings wouldn't have the same effect (unless he really does have them, or has acted erratically).

    The fact that she's accused of having mood swings in the face of her behavior which indicates no such thing is the sexist part.


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    MSNBarack so believed ... (3.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Robot Porter on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:35:20 PM EST
    their own claims of Hillary's mental problems that they seemed genuinely surprised on the night of the debate that they didn't need white coated orderlies to escort her from the stage.

    Isn't it clear that the press doesn't believe in Obama's "massive political skills"?  Otherwise, they wouldn't think he'd need so much help to win a nomination that they keep telling us he's already won.

    It won't be acknowledged (none / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:04:19 PM EST


    Dissociative identity disorder (none / 0) (#8)
    by cannondaddy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:21:38 PM EST
    is not a gender based illness.  I'll admit several of your earlier posts were on target in respect to sexism in the media.  But I don't see it here.

    Ha! (5.00 / 4) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:27:48 PM EST
    Yes, because that is what causes all mood swings.

    Hilarious comment.

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    thanks (none / 0) (#16)
    by cannondaddy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:29:28 PM EST
    Poor Tano can relate (none / 0) (#84)
    by Kathy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 04:15:35 PM EST
    He's much more reactionary when "Halstoon" takes over.

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    No! (none / 0) (#89)
    by Kathy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 05:10:00 PM EST
    You don't think Tano would do such a thing!  

    Now, Halstoon...maybe.

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    You Are Wrong (none / 0) (#90)
    by squeaky on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 05:17:18 PM EST
    So you can stop your backbiting. Jeralyn has apologized to Tano.

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    "backbiting?" (none / 0) (#92)
    by Kathy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 05:33:52 PM EST
    I beg your pardon, but if something came up re: the Tano/Halstoon revelation while I was away, then I apologize.  I haven't read every single post here today, so you can bite your own back on this one.

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    Here's Jeralyn's comment earlier: (none / 0) (#93)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 05:36:55 PM EST
    [new] my apologies but (none / 0) (#243)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 09:15:24 AM PST
    halstoon is obamamania. Obamamania has now been banned. Halstoon is not Tano.


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    So Halstoon was here twice not as Tano Though (none / 0) (#99)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:13:14 PM EST
    but as obamamania?

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    Whatever You Say (none / 0) (#95)
    by squeaky on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 05:38:46 PM EST
    For someone that has been out all day you have managed to make quite a few 'jokes' about Tano. Whatever rocks your boat.

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    I think I have made it clear (none / 0) (#96)
    by Kathy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:03:19 PM EST
    to Tano that he annoys the crap out of me--and may even have said those exact words to him.  Finding (the now disproven) statement hilarious--that he was posting as another person just to agree with himself--is completely in line with those feelings.

    I have apologized for not realizing that Jeralyn had made a correction, but--heck yeah, I made a couple of jokes about Halstoongate, and it totally rocked my boat!  


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    So, do you both renounce and reject (none / 0) (#97)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:05:19 PM EST
    or not?

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    Renounce and Reject? (none / 0) (#100)
    by Kathy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:25:41 PM EST
    It depends...which one will get me more votes?

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    I gotta read more things (none / 0) (#98)
    by RalphB on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:07:27 PM EST
    I don't agree with obviously.  I never noticed halstoon  :-)


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    I gotta say (none / 0) (#101)
    by Kathy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:27:34 PM EST
    he was a lot smarter than his dopplobammer.

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    ;o) Gee, thanks!! n/t (none / 0) (#110)
    by halstoon on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 10:44:15 PM EST
    ugh (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Nasarius on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:33:06 PM EST
    So where's the psychoanalysis when Obama attacks Clinton? This is all, at the very least, moronic and demonstrative of an irrational desire to attack Clinton.

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    Right........any candidate.....all the candidates (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:37:42 PM EST
    who can keep up with the campaigning needed right now have mental problems ;)  It isn't just one of them ;)  I die laughing when people call her narcissistic.  Like waking up one morning and deciding you want to be president of the United States doesn't require having some of that ;)  Yeah, I'm just a humble, hard working, well educated, refined yet well connected gentle soul who sort of wants to be insistent that you vote for me to be the leader of the free world next time around ;)

    A friend told me Obama, (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:52:03 PM EST
    having just graduated from Harvard Law School, sd. he didn't want to be in the cabinet, he wanted to pick the cabinet.

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    Oh our blissful joyful humble beginnings (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:54:49 PM EST
    on our many journeys to the White House ;)

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    is it that women and men are not different, or that women and men are different but we're not allowed to acknowledge it?

    You're allowed to acknowledge (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by kmblue on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:51:12 PM EST
    men and women are paid differently for the same work.

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    This is sarcasam, right? (none / 0) (#27)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:51:04 PM EST
    Men are from Mars, (none / 0) (#36)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:02:03 PM EST
    or so I've read.

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    that book is pretty lame, (none / 0) (#87)
    by kangeroo on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 04:23:44 PM EST
    quite frankly.  it reinforces and perpetuates stereotypes...  self-fulfilling prophecy, so to speak.

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    The foundational issue is (none / 0) (#30)
    by JJE on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:54:33 PM EST
    HRC is perfect in every way and the only reason she's having trouble is there is a vast ObamaMedia conspiracy to take her down.

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    Well at least someone gets it ;) (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:56:12 PM EST
    The foundational issue: (none / 0) (#33)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 12:57:55 PM EST
    does anyone have any basis to state HRC is mentally ill?

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    Lacking any authoritative basis on a subject (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by flyerhawk on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:04:27 PM EST
    has never prevented the media from commenting on just about any topic they cover in the past.  

    If journalists are talking about anything other than journalism and politicking they are almost certain to be speaking from a position of gross ignorance.

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    I'm not sure what you're saying here, (none / 0) (#46)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:13:59 PM EST
    do men and women bar-brawl with the same frequency? Or does one gender more than the other?

    Careful how you reply, lest ye be branded a sexist...

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    I'm not going to argue with you. (none / 0) (#52)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:29:17 PM EST
    Try googling "mood swings."

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    And that would prove what? (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:39:32 PM EST
    Try googling. (none / 0) (#67)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:58:13 PM EST
    I think racism and sexism will end only when the races and sexes understand that they're on the same side.

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    I'm sorry, maybe I'm being dense... (none / 0) (#76)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:05:11 PM EST
    ...but I still don't understand what googling has to do with it.

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    Your not being dense Googling has nothing to do (none / 0) (#77)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:08:04 PM EST
    with it.  I can always find a post to "proof" my point.  It's like statistics depends on how you read it.

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    All, this shouldn't be a competition. (none / 0) (#83)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 04:14:00 PM EST
    Accepting truth will not diminish us.

    Making this type of subject a competition, however, very effectively prevents learning and understanding.

    I'm not sure further discussion of convictions will be helpful.

    Parent

    Try Googling! (none / 0) (#85)
    by tree on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 04:15:51 PM EST
    You'll like it! Worried about those wild mood swings? Try Googling! Nine out of ten doctors recommend it for their patients who swing. Weeeee!

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    Googling "mood swings" (none / 0) (#86)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 04:22:01 PM EST
    and reading links might give you some info that you don't presently have.

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    How hilarious.... (none / 0) (#105)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 08:08:05 PM EST
    ..but really when I want to really know something that I don't know I tend to consult peer reviewed journals...not google. I truly didn't realize that's what you meant cause that's frankly absurd. I thought you were saying there was a link between googling and mood swings, which is wild but interesting.

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    There Is (none / 0) (#106)
    by squeaky on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 08:46:40 PM EST
    Although it has not been studied as of yet. Google is holding back on the data.

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    LOL. We must demand they release them. (none / 0) (#109)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 09:22:01 PM EST
    If google is responsible for my mood swings, I want compensation!

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    Class Action Suite? (none / 0) (#113)
    by squeaky on Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 11:03:53 AM EST
    You will get your $15. share of the settlement.

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    Fair enough, I have no dog in this fight. (none / 0) (#111)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 01:16:51 AM EST
    Please link us to the peer reviewed journals you consult that conclude there is no difference in the prevalence of mood swings between the genders.

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    Personally (none / 0) (#37)
    by flyerhawk on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:02:12 PM EST
    I think it is Mark Penn that suffers from acute mood swings and erratic behavior.

    Either that or there are 2 equally powerful factions inside the Clinton campaign that have diametrically opposed views on how to campaign and because of that it has made the campaign appear disjointed and contradictory.

    Well, all I can say is, that if you ever (none / 0) (#39)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:02:59 PM EST
    dare say that sexism is a bigger problem than racism you'll find yourself excoriated by the masses.

    And rightfully so (none / 0) (#41)
    by JJE on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:05:34 PM EST
    The Oppression Olympics are rightfully derided in most progressive circles.

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    And problems of inequality (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by kmblue on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:09:50 PM EST
    are not discussed at all in the Republican party.
    You might like it better over there.


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    Thank you Kimblue (none / 0) (#44)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:12:39 PM EST
    my pleasure (none / 0) (#48)
    by kmblue on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:20:27 PM EST
    the GOP likes to minimize racism too (none / 0) (#50)
    by JJE on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:24:12 PM EST
    seems like you'd be a good fit.

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    I am a Registered Republican (none / 0) (#62)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:44:53 PM EST
    Just one that voted for Kerry and plans to vote for the Democratic Nominee in November.  On the subject of minimizing racism is not minimizing racism is admitting that sexism exist even in the minority groups.  So sexism transcends race and/or Nationality, or for that matter religious believes.

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    No thanks. (none / 0) (#63)
    by kmblue on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:47:13 PM EST
    To quote myself, "problems of inequality" include both racism and sexism.  I abhor both.
    That's why I'm a Democrat.

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    me too (none / 0) (#65)
    by JJE on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:53:58 PM EST
    that's why i don't try to pit one group against the other by saying "racism is worse than sexism" or vice versa.

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    Nah, you just put them (none / 0) (#68)
    by kmblue on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:37:37 PM EST
    both down by talking about
    the "Oppression Olympics".

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    Your inability to comprehend (none / 0) (#71)
    by JJE on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:50:04 PM EST
    is not my problem.  Saying "my oppression is worse than yours" is the Oppression Olympics.  Seeking to minimize the struggles of others to call attention to your own is not progressive.

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    Let me stop talking about this with this (none / 0) (#72)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:54:56 PM EST
    remark being excoriated by you is proof of my original comment.

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    If so, then the problem (none / 0) (#57)
    by Cream City on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:38:46 PM EST
    just may be in those allegedly progressive circles.

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    On the Subject of Mood Swings (none / 0) (#51)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:27:47 PM EST
    and Hormonal Disorders.  Part of my duties as a Health Educator was helping in the preparation of pre-natal classes and serving as interpreter for spanish speaking future parents.  During that process I came to find out that even among some women there was  this incorrect belief that mood changes and such were basically a female problem.  My position is that this is a widely held notion in our Nation and the media plays the masses on it.

    In men they calll it anger management.. (none / 0) (#60)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:40:32 PM EST
    ..don't they? At least that seems to be the acceptable term.

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    that or they just Lump it with (none / 0) (#70)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:45:29 PM EST
    Bi-polar disorder.  My father who was Sexist and Sarcastic use to say that Men changed their mind Women were Irrational.  My biggest worry has always been how so many women accept the status quo because of religion or because that is nature's way or so many other excuses that saddens me.  

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    at the end of the day (none / 0) (#56)
    by talkingpoint on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:37:28 PM EST
    she will still prevail.

    I'm working on (none / 0) (#61)
    by Lena on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:41:21 PM EST
    her campaign right now, with that very goal in sight.

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    narsisstic personality disorder (none / 0) (#66)
    by Lil on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:57:28 PM EST
    don't all candidates regardless of gender have at least a little of this? They have to in order to think they could run this country. But it seems that when a woman does this it is considered unbecoming.  Double standards still abound everywhere. Even when Schuster referred to Chelsea as being pimped, it was curious he didn't refer to Romney's sons as being pimped, and of course there are about a thousand other examples of this that we've been treated to during this "silly season"...most egregiously by MSNBC, but by many others too. When the left blogs started doing it, it turned my stomach, and I find myself reading less and less of them.

    One more thing (none / 0) (#69)
    by Lil on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:40:37 PM EST
    Since when is having a stabalized mood or even being sane have anything to do with being president. Bush's insanity was largly ignored until after 2004 (specifically, after Katrina)

    Think Thomas Eagleton. (none / 0) (#73)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:56:48 PM EST


    I remember that election (none / 0) (#75)
    by Florida Resident on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:03:35 PM EST
    The MCMers said similar things about Al Gore-- (none / 0) (#81)
    by jawbone on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:55:46 PM EST
    It's one of their Frequent Attack Points (allows them to fly first class).

    FAP's are recycled as appropriate.

    IIRC, Somerby has mentioned it frequently.

    http://www.google.com/custom?q=Al+Gore+mental+problems&sa=Google+Search&cof=AH%3Acenter%3BAW FID%3Ac32a032061318778%3B&domains=dailyhowler.com&sitesearch=dailyhowler.com

    MCMers: Members of the Mainstream Corporate Media