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Posted on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:14:50 PM EST
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By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only.

In an earlier post, I misattributed a line that was written by Obama blogger Sam Graham Felsen to the very fine writer for the New Yorker, Hendrik Hertzberg. What Hertzberg actually wrote in the New Yorker, and was quoted by the Obama blogger was:

"Going negative" has been a bust. It could never be anything but a bust, because there is no audience for it in the Democratic Party... Barack Obama is a phenomenon that comes along once in a lifetime. Unfortunately for Hillary, it's her lifetime; fortunately for the rest of us, it's ours.
The line from the Obama blogger was "Let's let Hillary know that the American people are sick and tired of negative attacks and want something new."

I regret the error.

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    Or unfortunately.. (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by tree on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:20:53 PM EST
    Your mileage may vary.

    I think negative campaigning works as (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by athyrio on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:20:55 PM EST
    that is all they have done to Hillary from the beginning from the press and it has allowed Obama to catch up....

    once in a lifetime (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by eric on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:39:30 PM EST
    Barack Obama is a phenomenon that comes along once in a lifetime.

    Or, maybe not.  I remember seeing thousands and thousands of people squeezing into the square in front of City Hall in Minneapolis in 1992.  Why were they there?  To see the TEAM FOR CHANGE.

    I've seen enthusiasm for CHANGE.  It tends to happen after 12 years of Republican Presidents, or, as is the case now, 8 years of an especially one nasty one.  Is Obama even more of a rockstar than Bill was?  Sure.  But it's the same gig.

    plus I believe that Obama is to the right of Bill (none / 0) (#8)
    by athyrio on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:43:34 PM EST
    in many things that are important to me like health care etc...

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    Obama to the right of (none / 0) (#9)
    by Jgarza on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:45:58 PM EST
    Bill Clinton?

    on health care?  lets see 8 years of Bill, almost nothing on health care.

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    Except for the part... (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by OrangeFur on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:47:12 PM EST
    ... where he tried to get UHC. I know he failed, but he tried. Obama isn't even going to try.

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    He had (none / 0) (#12)
    by Jgarza on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:48:34 PM EST
    8 years, and Obama is proposing Universal health care.

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    what he is proposing is NOT UHC!!!! (none / 0) (#13)
    by athyrio on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:49:43 PM EST


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    Sorry, it is not. (none / 0) (#14)
    by OrangeFur on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:04:08 PM EST
    There is no reasonable definition for which Obama's proposal is universal health care.

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    "Universal" should be in quotes. (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:14:03 PM EST


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    I assume you weren't following (none / 0) (#20)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:14:51 PM EST
    politics closely during those 8 years....during impeachment (but NOT CONVICTION) and all that garbage.

    He was supposed to enact universal healthcare while the Republican Congress was calling on him to step down from the presidency, investigating his every bathroom break, etc.

    O.M.G.

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    Once in a lifetime? (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by OrangeFur on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:46:41 PM EST
    And they wonder why people are a little creeped out by their fervor.

    Barf.

    More on once in a lifetime... (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by OrangeFur on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:20:18 PM EST
    It reminds of an old Peanuts comic, where Charlie Brown is talking to Linus (?), and asks him something like "Do you think there will be a moment in our lives which is better than all the others?", and after Linus agrees, says "What if you've already had it?"

    I'm a little confused (none / 0) (#4)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:27:27 PM EST
    do I understand correctly that your point about Obama was still valid in the original post?

    My correction (none / 0) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:28:58 PM EST
    speaks for itself.

    I will not add to it.


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    O K (none / 0) (#6)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 06:32:28 PM EST


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    WTF is going negative? (none / 0) (#15)
    by white n az on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:06:00 PM EST
    if not a meme by the main stream media

    I think we saw a taste of what the general election is going to look like and that is going to be one 'going negative' after another.

    on the other hand, it was nice of Obama to retire Dodd's campaign debt  ;-)

    negative hasn't begun yet (none / 0) (#17)
    by RalphB on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:09:56 PM EST
    but between nomination and November.  frankly, I'm gonna sit back and laugh my butt off when the attacks start.

    That was especially nice for Dodd  :-)

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    That endorsement surprised me, (none / 0) (#18)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:13:30 PM EST
    frankly.

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    Hertzberg, like Tweety, (none / 0) (#16)
    by RalphB on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:07:12 PM EST
    was a speechwriter for Carter.  Make of it what you will  :-)

    OK, so Hertzberg is drinking the Kool-Aid too (none / 0) (#21)
    by pmj6 on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 07:15:48 PM EST
    What a bunch of nonsense. Sure, the American people are tired of negative campaigning--unless it's Obama's Harry and Louise ads, colluding with Drudge in that photograph "smear", misrepresenting NAFTA, etc.

    oh really? (none / 0) (#23)
    by cpinva on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 09:58:29 PM EST
    i wasn't aware that democrats had been "blessed", "sanctified" perhaps. they are, according to this blowhard, morally superior to mere mortals. give me an f*ing break!

    of course the democratic constituency is affected by negative campaigning. geez, anyone who thinks otherwise is, well (taps the table as he tries to think of a nice way to put this).............an idiot. or just a liar. possibly stone cold blind as a bat. possibly a combination of all of the above.

    perhaps, democrats aren't quite as subject to it as republicans are, i'll grant you that much; democrats, in general, tend to not hate nearly as many people as your average republican seems to. but negative does work with democrats. were that not the case, we'd never see it.

    if sen. obama's supporters think they've seen negative, they are in for a hugely rude awakening, come the GE, should he be the dem. nominee.

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