Late Night : One for the Girls

Title: Here's One for the Girls.

A good way to end a blog day filled with debate over sexism.

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    Jeralyn (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by glanton on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 10:53:00 PM EST
    Your posts on this primary have been thoughtful and compelling throughout, and together have constituted one of several factors that moved me, at first quite reluctantly, towards supporting Hillary Clinton.

    And P.S. (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by glanton on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 10:59:58 PM EST
    I'm in Texas.  Nice to have a Democratic vote count for something, for a change!

    thanks, Glanton (none / 0) (#36)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 09:06:05 AM EST
    I'm flattered.

    That's a really sweet video. (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by lilburro on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 10:54:05 PM EST
    I wonder what horrible youtube homages exist out there for McCain.  I hesitate to find out...

    I love it, great feel good to end the day. Thanks (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by RalphB on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:03:05 PM EST

    Sweet....!! (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:08:55 PM EST
    Where do you find this stuff....

    I found it in the comments (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:15:33 PM EST
    on TalkLeft!

    Whoever it was (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:57:12 PM EST
    Thank you and them for sharing!

    Yikes... (none / 0) (#14)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:16:50 PM EST
    I should click on more!! but I lose them.

    (smiling) That's so nice.. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by katiebird on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:10:39 PM EST
    Thank you. I saw the link in another thread.  But it's nice to see it right here on the front page.

    Nice (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by eric on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:19:48 PM EST
    Nice.  I'm a guy, and I love that.

    Ditto (none / 0) (#28)
    by reynwrap582 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:03:56 AM EST
    Not even my preferred style of music and I thought it was great.

    I just love it! (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by masslib on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:31:58 PM EST

    Song by Martina McBride (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Pacific John on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:38:18 PM EST
    ... a great Democrat.

    thanks, I was wondering who it was (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:52:03 PM EST
    I had no idea.

    Love this! Sent it to my daughter (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Cream City on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:43:54 PM EST
    a Clinton voter come this Tuesday -- and a country western fan like her Mom, too.  Took my daughter to meet Hillary Clinton more than a dozen years ago, and it made a difference in her difficult and courageous life.  This will give her a good day, so thank you, Jeralyn, as I had missed this link in the earlier post.

    Beautiful video! (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by BluestBlue on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 12:18:53 AM EST
    Send it to your favorite niece/daughter/sister/mother/aunt/friend!

    very nice (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Kathy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 09:06:56 AM EST
    to wake up to.  Thanks, TL, for all you do.

    Fantastic! (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by SandyS on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 09:11:27 AM EST
    Thanks so much for that wonderful video.  I will come back to it often!

    Obama fans (none / 0) (#1)
    by hvs on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 10:43:05 PM EST
    were charmingly called "screeching harpies" in the comments earlier today!  ; )

    Just found and deleted it (none / 0) (#12)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:14:47 PM EST
    no need to keep bringing it up. Thanks for letting me know.

    Just out of curiosity.. (none / 0) (#31)
    by hvs on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:03:52 AM EST
    I thought I mentioned the "harpy" issue once. Is there a technical issue that makes it appear that I mentioned it more than once?

    I was sorry to see my question put to you last night deleted, Jeralyn; it was mean in all sincerity.


    once was enough to mention it (none / 0) (#32)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:49:57 AM EST
    That was Big Tent's post, I don't have an answer for you and I generally don't answer questions about things other people write -- just what I write.

    Thanks (none / 0) (#34)
    by hvs on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 08:35:47 AM EST
    Jeralyn. By the way, have you written a post in the past on the New Hampshire-era "make him black" strategy to which you can refer me for your ideas?

    never nor would I (none / 0) (#35)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 09:05:26 AM EST
    Just one last question (none / 0) (#38)
    by hvs on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 09:08:42 AM EST
    and I'll stop pestering you. Thanks for your patience.
    Is it because you don't believe that it happened or because you choose not to write about it...which is, of course, your right?

    I think he actually said (none / 0) (#6)
    by lilburro on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 10:59:35 PM EST
    something along of the lines that if there were a meeting, a race-based strategy would be disqualified as idiotic politics.  To paraphrase.  And I guess that can be argued.

    I did see your comment earlier today, and I was struck by your assertion that "there was [a] meeting--literally, a meeting, in which the chiefs of the campaign team sat around and came up with this plan."  But you seem not to actually know that there was a meeting.  Do you have proof of any such thing?  I really haven't heard anything quite like that before.  And if you have no proof of that happening, then it's hard to use it in your argument.

    A series of (none / 0) (#10)
    by hvs on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:09:12 PM EST
    phone calls then?
    ; )

    Wow (none / 0) (#20)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 11:57:00 PM EST
    Salon just published the Obama "periodic" quote....(from yesterday)Rather late

    Late Night is for (none / 0) (#22)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 12:03:57 AM EST
    winding down and feeling good. Please don't start the debate again on this thread, put it on one of the debate threads.

    Sorry Jeralyn (none / 0) (#27)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 12:41:56 AM EST
    Hmmmm (none / 0) (#24)
    by Onetimeonly on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 12:19:44 AM EST
    This sounds alot like the Yes We Can video on youtube (You know for those brainwashed "Obamabots"), but with even less substance. Also her healthcare plan is completely ludicrous and benefits the insurance companies. It forces everyone "Universally" to pay for crappy corporate healthcare. Thanks Hillary, your straight from the middle class and have turned your back on us.

    Sorry didnt mean to ruin your happy yay Hillary thread. Even though it enforces every bad stereotype that exists about your candidate ("This ones for the girls").

    Ah, there's one in every crowd (5.00 / 3) (#26)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 12:29:20 AM EST
    But you have a good evening too. Love, TalkLeft.

    I don't think that's a bad stereotype... (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by reynwrap582 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:12:38 AM EST
    There are a lot of women who have had major influences in my life, and I've seen the enormous struggle each has had to undertake simply because they're women.  It's not unseemly to think that having a female president in the White House, who has lived the female experience for 60 years, might actually be able to give a unique voice to 50.4% of the population. I don't find it unseemly that Obama captures 90% of the African-American vote, I think that people ought to vote for the person who they think will do the most good, and I think it's valid for them to vote almost entirely for a person who can mirror some of their experiences and understand their plight.

    Love it! (none / 0) (#25)
    by jen on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 12:24:42 AM EST
    Thanks to whoever linked it, and thanks Jeralyn for  ending our night on a positive note! ;)

    This is for the Girl (none / 0) (#33)
    by Janet on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:59:16 AM EST
    Thanks for making a bad sexist week end on a high note!!! After Obama's remarks this week I found the video a breath of fresh air. janet

    "When I grow up, I can be president" (none / 0) (#40)
    by echinopsia on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 09:25:32 AM EST
    Made me tear up.

    I guess that makes me weak?

    No, it makes me proud that unlike me, little girls will no longer be limited to hearing only the message, "You can't do that because you're a girl."

    Forget your dreams and aspirations and limit your horizons and expectations because while you might be smart, ambitious, courageous, talented and hardworking, you were born female and that means you'll never be good enough no matter what you do. Heck of a thing to tell any child.

    They'll still run into it, but it won't be universal. Thanks, Hillary.

    I'd like thank NJDem (none / 0) (#41)
    by daveUSA on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 01:25:48 PM EST
    for reminding me (in a previous article now closed to discussion) that I, as a man, have no right to defend another man from accusations of sexism.  What was I thinking?  

    Seriously, can someone please tell me what exactly in Senator Obama's quote was sexist?  Was it the "feeling down" phrase?  Do men never feel down?  Down emotionally, down in energy, down in polls? Obama's team should call this bluff. If Obama's quote was blatantly sexist why doesn't Hillary's campaign run with it and put it all over TV in the remaining states?  They won't do that because they know there wasn't really anything sexist about it.

    It is irresponsible of BTD to write such a baseless accusation (in the 16Feb "These Kinds of Sexist Remarks Are Not What I am Looking For" article).  This is typical mudslinging:  if it doesn't stick, who cares, no one will remember; but if it does stick, then you help your favored candidate.  This particular accusation falls into the no one will remember category.  Even if it fails, BTD should be ashamed of stooping to that level.  Failing an outright apology, BTD should give more explanation why the serious charge of sexism is warranted here.

    This blog has taken on a vaguely depressing feel.  People are grasping at straws, throwing bombs, and making stuff up.  There is a lot of intellectual dishonesty here. I hope it passes after we have a nominee.

    Okay, but first, can you show (none / 0) (#42)
    by Cream City on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:07:33 PM EST
    which ones of the dozens of answers to your questions on those threads didn't explain it for you already?  Try taking a couple of the points from those threads that just aren't clear to you and come on back.  Otherwise, we would have to do more hundreds of posts saying the same thing again, and they apparently still wouldn't do it for you.

    Seeing this video (none / 0) (#43)
    by Sima on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 05:15:43 PM EST
    Sunday afternoon and it just picked up my day.

    For some reason, whenever I think about the 'girls' I think about my Mom and all she's seen, fought for, won and lost.  So I shed a tear thinking about all of that.

    Same here; my mom would have been (none / 0) (#44)
    by Cream City on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 10:48:07 PM EST
    85 yesterday, when Jeralyn posted this.  And if my mom was here, she would have loved it! She was a hard-working Dem in every campaign for decades.

    So I sat down with my daughter today and showed it to her -- plus the lovely Alicia Keys "Superwoman" video on Clinton (and on youtube, too).  And then we got out our calendars to figure out when we're free to vote Tuesday -- we're going together, so that someday, she can tell her daughters that we did so.

    May my granddaughters not think it so unusual for a woman to run for president.  Their late great-grandmother worked hard for this day, and we owe it to her generation and many, many more before them.