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Here's an interesting article about abusive conditions at a Honduras factory where Donald Trump shirts are manufactured.

Employees at a textile factory that made Trump shirts report dangerous, abusive conditions — harsh even for Honduras.

Politico takes a look behind the vetting process that resulted in the selection of Tim Kaine for Hillary's veep.

Hillary and Kaine made their first appearance today. In the short video clip of their appearance, he doesn't seem boring at all. I kind of like him. But then I could care less about his (or Bernie Sanders') positions on trade or Wall Street -- I'm more concerned with how faith-oriented he is. I don't like religion in politics. Hopefully he'll keep his religious views to himself. With Hillary beaming throughout the appearance like she just won the lottery, I'm revising my opinion that she wasn't thrilled with this choice. Clearly, she is. I'm sure she knows what she's doing, so Clinton-Kaine it is -- I'm on board.[More...]

Ambassador Chris Stevens mother wrote the New York Times complaining about Trump and the Republicans' opportunistic exploitation of her son's death in Benghazi.

"As Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens's mother, I am writing to object to any mention of his name and death in Benghazi, Libya, by Donald Trump's campaign and the Republican Party.

...."I know for certain that Chris would not have wanted his name or memory used in that connection. I hope that there will be an immediate and permanent stop to this opportunistic and cynical use by the campaign.”

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    After listening to the Tim Kaine speech (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 09:41:00 PM EST
    at FIU today, it confirmed my previous reasoning why anyone Hillary picked would be fine with me. Today Hillary once again proved she is far smarter than me.

    Yep (none / 0) (#2)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 09:57:48 PM EST
    She's got this.

    I was dreading Kaine as the pick, as many were, but then seeing how it is working out, I have to say I was not on the mark.  

    She knew better.  Good for her--and us.

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    A question or two (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 10:03:39 PM EST
    ...for the Trumpites.  It's about a contradiction that they live with.

    Since the Trump slogan assumes that the US was once but is no longer "great" ("Make America Great Again!"), the obvious question is this: "Which country is currently the 'greatest,' so we know whom we should emulate?  When was the last time the US was 'great?'"

    Voting record in Senate (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Baal on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 10:13:29 PM EST
    The more I learn about Kaine the more I like him, especially his record in the Senate Over last three years. I knew little about him and spent many hours today delving deepe, since first reactions I read from my usual sources were underwhelming. There are many progressive concerns. There are at least a few where Kaine has been more aggressively out front than  than Sanders, which is something Sanders supporters sometimes miss (and also why they can't grasp why Hillary did so strongly among minorities and in dense urban cores).  I like his 100% rating from Planned Parenthood and NARAL. I am happy about who hates him.  I am very enthusiastic about this ticket. I am guessing maybe no the Will turn out to be  so boring a pick.

    Everything you said (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 10:16:44 PM EST
    Also he seems sort of a tricky target for the right wing attack machine.

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    "My faith is central (none / 0) (#3)
    by Redbrow on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 09:59:07 PM EST
    to ecerything I do."

    Catholic and pro-life.

    There is nothing ambiguous about his "faith-orientation".

    He is a long time Washinton insider who married into a politcal elite family with the same ivy league harvard connections as the Clinton, Bush and Obama dynasties.

    Jealous? (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 10:05:05 PM EST
    Question (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 10:19:57 PM EST
    For you and fish and KeysDan

    I've been binging BLOODLINE.  

    does every cheap motel in south Florida have fish on the wallpaper?

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    why bloodline? (none / 0) (#16)
    by linea on Sun Jul 24, 2016 at 12:32:33 AM EST
    it only has 3.5 stars. i'm watching Dead Like Me and that has 5 stars on amazon.

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    Me, a little (none / 0) (#12)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 11:30:49 PM EST
    But we each have been given something.....

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    Obama dynasty? (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Peter G on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 10:12:50 PM EST
    That's pretty funny. Even "Clinton dynasty" is kind of a dumb notion. Two highly talented people, married to one another. Nothing intergenerational; nothing to suggest family connections have trumped talent or resulted in undue advantages or opportunities (like the Bushes).

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    Obama is a "dynasty?" (none / 0) (#6)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 10:11:11 PM EST
    How so?  He's the first of his line as far as Harvard is concerned.  Same with Clinton.

    I think you meant the BUSH dynasty, which actually existed.  W's GRANDFATHER was a rich politician, but Bill's and Barack's were not.

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    Donald has (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 10:18:01 PM EST
    Duck Dynasty.  Does that count?

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    Neither W.J. Clinton nor H.R. Clinton (none / 0) (#13)
    by Peter G on Sun Jul 24, 2016 at 12:13:17 AM EST
    ever attended Harvard. Both were too smart to bother with Harvard Law. HRC did her undergrad at Wellesley, and Bill at Georgetown (with a masters from Oxford).

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    Yes, Kaine is "pro-life" (none / 0) (#14)
    by Peter G on Sun Jul 24, 2016 at 12:17:50 AM EST
    in a very American Catholic way:  personally finds abortion immoral, but as a matter of public policy and constitutional law supports each woman's right to make her own choices. And opposes the death penalty, both personally and as a matter of policy.

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    immoral? (none / 0) (#17)
    by linea on Sun Jul 24, 2016 at 12:38:31 AM EST
    not "it's against my religion for me to get an abortion" but rather it's immoral in a universal sense?

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    how Hillary wins (none / 0) (#15)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Jul 24, 2016 at 12:21:36 AM EST