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McCain In Arizona Monday Night

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 11:38:52 AM EST
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Via Kos, who has a new Research 2000 Arizona poll (McCain 48, Obama 47) to explain why McCain will be campaigning in Arizona Monday night.

Obama has so much money, he can do an ad blitz in Arizona and make McCain spend part of the day before the election in his home state. Hard to see how a McCain miracle could possibly happen.

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    A win there would be fun (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by andgarden on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 11:42:56 AM EST
    Revenge for 2000 on all fronts these days.

    The R2K poll also (none / 0) (#9)
    by MKS on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:25:34 PM EST
    shows Gov. Napolitano beating McCain for his Senate seat in 2010--by about 7 points iirc...Arizona will go blue--if not this election, then by the next....

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    seriously... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by white n az on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 11:43:45 AM EST
    the guy's been US Senator in Arizona for 20 years. Does he think that campaigning will matter at this point?

    Well that tells you all you need (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by CaptainAmerica08 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 11:45:44 AM EST
    to know, doesn't it?

    It's over. (5.00 / 0) (#4)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 11:46:39 AM EST


    We hope:).... (5.00 / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 11:52:50 AM EST
    Johnny probably just doesn't want to travel too far home after his likely defeat...though when you have that many houses, are you ever far from home?...:)

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    I honestly couldn't give a rat's @ss (none / 0) (#8)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:23:22 PM EST
    if he, or anyone else for that matter, had a 100 houses. Or 1000. Jealousy and envy of someone else's stuff just ain't my bag. I'm pretty sure its not yours either...

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    It seems... (none / 0) (#10)
    by Thanin on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:27:35 PM EST
    the problem most everyone I know has with it is that he tried to come off as working for the average joe, like he could really relate to people struggling with mortgage on one house.

    So it isn't envy or jealousy, at least from me anyway.

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    Fair enough. (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:36:34 PM EST


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    You're right... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:30:27 PM EST
    it ain't, just a poor attempt at election humor.

    I am certainly in no position to criticize the discretionary spending of others, nor is it anyone's place to criticize.

    Pursue that happiness John...just do it from the Senate.  and I know this is too much to ask, but how bout lettin' those who value a buzz over a house pursue theirs:)

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    It's all about the buzz! ;-) (none / 0) (#13)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:38:33 PM EST


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    I'd prefer to (none / 0) (#14)
    by jondee on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:45:15 PM EST
    split the difference and own ten opium dens.

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    Only to have the government... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:49:36 PM EST
    seize the opium dens when the competing opium den owner jealous of your success drops a dime on ya?  

    Screw that...better to spend it all on opium:)

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    Well, that was tongue (none / 0) (#17)
    by jondee on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 01:01:43 PM EST
    in cheek (mostly).

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    Tennesee in 2000 (5.00 / 0) (#6)
    by robrecht on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 11:56:30 AM EST
    A win in Arizona would be such sweet revenge for losing Tennesee in 2000!

    get serious folks... (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by white n az on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 01:05:15 PM EST
    McCain will win AZ even if it is a squeaker and it won't be because he came back to campaign Monday night.

    The whole story is sort of the superset of the Obama strategy forcing McCain to spend time/money in states that he shouldn't have to defend.

    If he loses Arizona, it simply inures to the strategy that Dean promoted and Obama masterfully adopted.

    This has nothing to do with payback for Tennessee in 2000 because Gore had become disconnected with Tennessee.

    This has nothing to do with Janet Napolitano and whether she runs in 2010 as it seems pretty clear that McCain will not run again in 2010. This is his curtain call.

    Sheesh (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 01:38:34 PM EST
    You think we do not know that?

    Gawd, you must think we are stupid.

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    you must have missed (none / 0) (#26)
    by white n az on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 04:20:51 PM EST
    the comments about payback for Tennessee in 2000.

    The giddiness of being competitive in AZ doesn't amount to anything at all. The fact that Obama is trashing him in the red states in the east & midwest are key.

    I don't think Obama will actually win AZ and it's not germane to the issue of winning anyway.

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    by the way... (none / 0) (#27)
    by white n az on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 04:23:41 PM EST
    if you want an interesting story about AZ, This front page story by Kos on the orange is just great stuff...kos vs. the Arizona Republic opinion editors...

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    Whoa, let's temper our excitement (none / 0) (#7)
    by easilydistracted on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:14:22 PM EST
    and not rush our judgement here. This might be nothing more than McCain's symbolic return to his home turf rather than an appearance out of necessity.  Sort of a message to his constituents that, "man its sure good to be back home." I note that he isn't scheduled to appear until 9PM PST.  So its not like he's cancelling other appearances in the midwest that day to make this one. Please, let's not get complacent.  This isn't over yet -- with all due respect of course to BTD's expert view to the contrary.      

    McCain is doing robo-calling (none / 0) (#16)
    by IndiDemGirl on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 12:57:13 PM EST
    in Arizona.  Most of the recent polls show a suprisingly close race.  The Obama campaign has just decided to run ads in Arizona.  All the factors suggest that McCain's appearance is to stem any bleeding/shore up support/avoid humiliation.

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    Indi, I so hope your assessment (none / 0) (#19)
    by easilydistracted on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 01:17:44 PM EST
    is right and come Wednesday morning I do want to hear "I told you so." Its just that the disastrous outcomes in the two previous presidential races have made me so damned cynical.  Call it cautious optimism, maybe.      

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    I understand completely!! (none / 0) (#29)
    by IndiDemGirl on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 09:30:49 PM EST
    I'm so nervous about this election I find it difficult to get the sleep these past few nights.  However, I do think the polls in Arizona show a narrow race. And since OBama has the funds he should contest.

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    Obama campaign may (none / 0) (#21)
    by oculus on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 01:43:31 PM EST
    "have so much money," but it's still seeking more on TL.  

    Too much is not enough.... (none / 0) (#22)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 02:04:58 PM EST
    we know this oc...one thing a politician will never ever do is say "the coffers are full, keep your money my fellow Americans".  

    Take that to the bank.

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    Obama e-mail said McCain ahead with $$$ (none / 0) (#24)
    by sallywally on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 03:40:16 PM EST
    I got the e-mail yesterday but knew about it because it was discussed here at TL.

    It said McCain was ahead by $20 million over Obama.

    So he must not have THAT much money....??

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    Don't believe everything you read. (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 03:41:25 PM EST
    It said McCain was ahead by $20 million over Obama.


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    Obama should save his money (none / 0) (#23)
    by pluege on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 03:04:23 PM EST
    More spending on advertising now for Obama is a waste. He could spend some now to tip close Congressional races, but much more importantly he should be getting ready to spend it post election on:

     1) the battalions of lawyers across the country that he will need to fight off the onslaught of republican illegal activity and court challenges to the election results. No amount of landslide will keep republicans from challenging the results of a few big states and trying to throw the results in doubt. The republican objective is to get the results to the courts where 8 years of bush appointments can work their anti-America republican magic.  

     2) counteracting the republican spin that it was an illegitimate election and Obama as an illegitimate POTUS. Its going to be might big ugly post election if Obama is the apparent winner.

    Nate Silver at 538.com (none / 0) (#28)
    by white n az on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 04:29:22 PM EST
    Irrational Exuberance in Arizona

    The most dishonorable campaign in U.S. history... (none / 0) (#30)
    by JohnRJ08 on Sat Nov 01, 2008 at 11:18:45 AM EST
    http://johnrj08.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/the-most-dishonorable-campaign-in-us-history/

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