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Frank Rich's Fairy Tales

Bob Somerby has documented well Frank Rich's hatred of Al Gore and the Clintons. And of course everyone is entitled to their opinions, but in his column today Rich accuses people of living in fairy tales while creating his own. Consider this:
People don’t change. Bill Clinton, having always lived on the edge, is back on the precipice. When he repeatedly complains that the press has given Mr. Obama a free ride and over-investigated the Clintons, he seems to be tempting the fates, given all the reporting still to be done on his post-presidential business. . . . “The Republicans are not going to have any compunctions about asking anybody anything,” Mrs. Clinton lectured Mr. Obama. Maybe so, but Republicans are smart enough not to start asking until after she has secured the nomination.
This is too funny. Does Frank Rich want to explain how HE knows about all this? Does he REALLY think the public is going to be "shocked" by whatever Whitewater-like triviality he thinks he knows about? But Rich has a history of believing in fairy tales. Last year he believed and tried to sell the fairy tale of John Warner getting us of Iraq. His history of fairy tale writing against Al Gore is notorious. Frank Rich lives in a glass house of fairy tales. Here is what Frank Rich needs to do - help us to enforce the new Obama rules. That would help, as opposed to his spinning more of his sad fairy tales.

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    Obama doesn't care (none / 0) (#1)
    by horseloverfat on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:17:10 AM EST
    Obama doesn't do "partisan" very well because He is not, well, partisan.  Obama is for Obama in much the same way that Lieberman is for Lieberman.
    Which is why Obama can push Reagan as "transformational" and Republicans as the "party of ideas."  Obama does not pick up on the partisan stuff because it is not really relevant to what he thinks about - Obama.
    I came across exit polling that Obama does much better with regular churchgoers than the less observant.  Seems to fit his campaign style, the guy sounds like a preacher.  That should be a big help in states like SC and OK and AL that will go red in the general anyway.


    Teddy Kennedy (none / 0) (#2)
    by Heather on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:17:16 AM EST
    wants change.

    Huh? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:21:22 AM EST
    Heather, we demand that comments be on topic to the post under discussion.

    I will delete OT topic comments.

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    On topic (none / 0) (#5)
    by Heather on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 08:08:34 AM EST
    I think the column serves as a warning that there is Clinton fatigue and hate festering among a proportion of dem and gop voters. And that the general election will be a referendum on the Clintons--good and bad. It will get ugly and be very repetitive of what we have already seen and been through. Folks like Teddy will be called upon to defend the Clinton's honor and their right to return to the White House. Obama will be asked to do the same. The skeletons (real and imagined) will be paraded on Fox daily for months.

    Its apparent that a fairly large segment of America wants to turn the page on politics as usual, as it were, and avoid the pitfalls of the past. There is a reason why Obama is running on a platform of change, decency, and honesty. Its because Clinton can't.

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    Clinton fatigue is overstated (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Molly Bloom on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 09:38:58 AM EST
    I haven't seen a poll on the topic. I sense is the general public generally likes President Clinton.

    The GOP isn't fatigued with President Clinton. They love railing against him.

    This is also true for Naderites.

    a fairly large segment of America wants to turn the page on politics as usual, as it were, and avoid the pitfalls of the past.

    is very similar to "brain dead politics of the past". Running on mom, apple pie and chevrolet  is fine (change, decency, and honesty), but who is against these things?

    Will someone tell me why the GOP will behave differently just because the Democratic nominee isn't named Clinton?  I am waiting to fine out what they will use for "gays in the military" to try and derail Obama? Will the blue dogs join in?

    More and better Democrats are what is needed in Congress. This will require running against the GOP and their philosophy of government. Or at the very least blaming all of our current problems on Bush and his GOP enablers. Will  Obama make that case?
     

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    Obama has (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by PlayInPeoria on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 09:53:21 AM EST
    a different style than the Sen Clinton.

    Will someone tell me why the GOP will behave differently just because the Democratic nominee isn't named Clinton?

    With Sen Clinton- she knows her policies and can spit them out at any time. She is very precise.

    With Sen Obama- he is the uniter. He has to explain what he "meant" too often. Even in the Illinois Senate, he had to change his vote 6 times because he mistakenly pushed the wrong button.

    I like Obama. I support Hillary. I beleive that Obama will have his time in the White House, but I beleive Hillary is what the country needs now.

    I still think this will be decided by the Economy. I am curious as to what the Markets reaction will be on Monday.  

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    Ted Kennedy? (none / 0) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 10:26:07 AM EST
    This is OT.

    Do not do this again. I will delete you r comments.

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    Clinton fatigue (none / 0) (#19)
    by Kathy on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:39:10 AM EST
    is up there with Bigfoot sightings.  No one can point to any real data.  The fact is that the average democrat seems to love Clinton.  The problem here is that the media-Frank Rich et al-have created this idea because it jibes with their own personal beliefs, much the way Fox news shapes its coverage of anyone who disagrees with their conservative ethos.  So, to say Frank Rich is right, you also have to say Fox news is right.  And I don't think any of us want to say that, mostly because our pants will spontaneously ignite.

    I think the biggest issue I have with the media is that they seem to dip into blogs like HuffPo to take the temperature of the democratic party.  They don't go out on the street and ask the average registered dem.  Like with the race thing, they are creating the issues rather than reporting on them.  When the news becomes the news, that's entertainment.

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    Rich pissed me off today (none / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:18:57 AM EST
    I don't think I'll be reading him regularly anymore.

    best thing about being in PST (none / 0) (#14)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 10:33:44 AM EST
    Now I can come here and see what to read and not read so I can minimize the venom intake.  Thanks for the heads up.  

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    Frank Rich is an idiot (none / 0) (#6)
    by BigB on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 08:40:27 AM EST
    No one outside the belway takes Frank Rich seriously. He basically reflects the opinions of the elite media.

    I thought it was nobody inside (none / 0) (#22)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:59:10 AM EST
    the beltway listened to him.

    Didnt he rail against Bush and the war etc?

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    Rich (none / 0) (#7)
    by Pat on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 08:42:46 AM EST
    Rich destroyed lives and careers with his drippingly snide Broadway reviews....then later laughed it all off saying he was wrong about a lot of the shows but just in a mood. He's an a-hole.

    do you go to Broadway shows? (none / 0) (#23)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 12:00:42 PM EST
    seriously...? I do.  They are expensive.  I dont want people who only write great reviews to have the job...but he was very very rough on occasion I'll grant you.

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    How about a link to Bob Somerby's (none / 0) (#8)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 09:31:41 AM EST
    ouevre on Frank Rich?

    Got a few (none / 0) (#10)
    by andgarden on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 09:39:15 AM EST
    Full time employment, I gather. (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 09:56:53 AM EST
    Can you tell me where to find (none / 0) (#26)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 08:16:30 PM EST
    background info on Paul Rosenberg from Open Left?  My googling didn't help.  Thanks.

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    frank rich/ don imus (none / 0) (#15)
    by jetro8 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 10:52:18 AM EST
    mr. rich should recall each time he appeared on don imus' show to sell his books, he was an apologist for don imus, this biggoted racist.

    Or, as Chris Dodd sd., where (none / 0) (#17)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:16:06 AM EST
    else do you go to pull in such a huge listener base?

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    OT Question (none / 0) (#16)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:05:25 AM EST
    BTD and J, can you do a word guide.  
    On language and it's use:  Do you have a historical memory for the word triangulation and how it compares with bipartisanship and working across the aisle.  

    Where is the truth  and where is the treachery?  

    It originates from Dick Morris (none / 0) (#18)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:35:30 AM EST
    when he advised the Clintons to find the middle ground with Republicans in the run up to the 1996 election.

    It is "bipartisanship" and "working across the aisle."

    Just a new word for it. It is now a pejorative.

    Because its use was about political advantage, it has the worst connotations. But it is the same thing.

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    Is this not Obama's message (none / 0) (#20)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:43:56 AM EST
    So when the Clinton's do it, it's bad.

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    I think it is bad (none / 0) (#21)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:51:52 AM EST
    whe Obama does it, but no one listens to me.

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    Stop playing the victim card. You'll (none / 0) (#24)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 12:08:06 PM EST
    never win this election.

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    the actual column (none / 0) (#25)
    by diogenes on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:16:48 PM EST
    The actual column spoke of Bill Clinton's refusal to release donor lists for presidential libraries or presidential records and noted that Hillary is a part of this.  If Bill has actually released all of this stuff then I guess Frank Rich is indeed living in a "fairy tale".