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NBC Tries To Shoo Bill Clinton Off The Stage

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:31:01 PM EST
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As always, the Media simply lacks common sense. They are taking Obama's rout of Hillary in South Carolina as proof that, as Keith Olbermann puts it, that "this is one campaign too many" for Bill. This is pretty obtuse. There are 21 states to campaign in on Super Tuesday. None of them are South Carolina. Even if you think Bill Clinton hurt Hillary in South Carolina, and I am not sure about the evidence on that, does anyone think having President Clinton campaign for the next 10 days across the country is a bad thing? There's the Media's Clinton Derangement Syndrome rearing its head again. Silly folks.

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    Could we take up a collection (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:41:20 PM EST
    so Margret Carlson  can retire and never pundit again?

    Is Joe a pundit or party hack? (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:51:14 PM EST
    Don't bother, I know the answer.

    I can't think of anyone I'd rather have ... (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:56:57 PM EST
    ... in my corner heading toward Super Tuesday than Bill Clinton.  Obama has his work cut out for him.

    Yup. (none / 0) (#1)
    by oldpro on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:39:29 PM EST
    Bill?  Huh.  To quote Martha Stewart, "It's a good thing."  This is a Democratic primary on Super Tuesday.

    Shut down Bill?  Not a chance.

    if someone (none / 0) (#3)
    by athyrio on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 07:44:06 PM EST
    started a Hillary network that supported her they sure would be popular....

    TPM says... (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dan the Man on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:11:37 PM EST
    Even if you think Bill Clinton hurt Hillary in South Carolina, and I am not sure about the evidence on that, does anyone think having President Clinton campaign for the next 10 days across the country is a bad thing?

    Joshua Marshall says he's hurting her so it must be so: "With a day to think about it though I think he's actually hurting her more than he or perhaps she realizes. Narrowly speaking, in the zero sum context of her battle with Obama, he's probably helping her. You can't deny that Hillary is back in a strong position. But here's the thing. In the week or so leading up to the Nevada caucus I feel like I heard more from and about Bill Clinton than I did about Hillary Clinton. Is that the media's doing rather than the campaign's? Maybe. But I don't find the argument convincing and I'm not sure it would matter if it were true. What seems difficult to deny is that his rising profile is threatening her position as the dominant force in her own campaign."

    Josh is right about one thing (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:23:05 PM EST
    We need to some more HRC and less Bill. This is not a slam at either. But she is the candidate. I want to hear from her.

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    Yes, and I agree with Josh's ... (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Demi Moaned on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 12:40:47 PM EST
    overarching point that Hillary has worked hard the past seven years to establish herself as an independent political power in the country and the party. It's one of her selling points for the Presidency.

    But having Bill be so agressively visible on her behalf does undo some of what she's achieved.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#15)
    by squeaky on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 01:47:58 PM EST
    But the Clinton hating press may think the same thing, that overdoing Bill is a handicap for Hillary, and act accordingly.

    They get to choose what we see. Should Bill just stop talking about Hillary?

    Dicey.

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    Donna Brazile (none / 0) (#8)
    by BDB on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:33:06 PM EST
    CNN's pundit coverage has been abysmal, too many openly hostile anti-HRC people which is too bad because Obama had a terrific night and there's no need to tear HRC to build him up.  But I give Donna Brazile a lot of credit for noting - against the pundit CW - that Bill Clinton is still an asset in the Democratic party.

    And how is Roland Martin any (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Teresa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:53:33 PM EST
    different than James Carville. He's an Obama supporter. We just can't win. All the media has gone crazy...the talking heads on MSNBC and the analysts on CNN.

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    Thank you -- I couldn't listen, after some (none / 0) (#9)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 08:52:36 PM EST
    of what I heard from her lately, which was a disappointment.  But she had the sense to say this tonight, so I'll listen to her again next time.

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    Yikes (none / 0) (#11)
    by publiusendures on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 09:02:07 PM EST
    "There's the Media's Clinton Derangement Syndrome rearing its head again. Silly folks."

    You do realize just how much you sound like a Bush supporter when you say things like this, right?

    Ridiculous (none / 0) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:10:21 AM EST
    This is a ridiculous comment.

    Judge the merits of my opinion instead of making cheap mindless statements.

    This is not daily kos.


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    Hello, it's me (and me) [and me] {oh, and me!} (none / 0) (#12)
    by ricorico on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 09:35:27 PM EST
    I am always excited to see President Clinton when he represents the party against its opponents.

    During the campaign of Senator Clinton, I've found my excitement level dipping somewhat, as the media reporting tends to pick up more of Bill's statements than Hillary's.  Not surprising.  Even to the national media, he is still the real star of the party.

    That being said (at least during the primary season), he's become a bit overexposed.

    I hope that the campaign finds the right balance for him (or rather, that he finds the right balance for the campaign :-) after Hillary gains the nomination.

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