Fox: Hannity "Not A Journalist"

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:08:18 PM EST
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Sean Hannity did some fundraising for Rudy Giuliani. Some folks wondered if Fox Noise cared about this. Well, they did not really wonder - we all know Fox Noise is in the bag for Rudy, from Ailes on down. But Fox responded:

The New York Daily News reported yesterday that Fox News personality Sean Hannity introduced Rudy Giuliani at a closed-door $250/head fundraiser in Cincinnati on August 9. Bill Shine, Fox's senior vice president of programming, said Hannity should not be judged according to the standards of journalistic ethics, which speak out against actively helping a candidate in such a manner. "Sean is not a journalist - Sean is a conservative commentator," Shine said. "Sean doesn't hide, and never has hidden, his beliefs from anyone."

Of course that is true for the entire Fox Noise Network, a propaganda arm of the Republican Party. There are no journalists at Fox Noise. I applaud them for admitting this. So the question is why any Democrat (I am looking at you Harold Ford) would appear on a Republican Propaganda Network?

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This ain't news..... (5.00 / 5) (#2)
by kdog on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:24:25 PM EST

call me when Fox Corp. admits that Hannity is a cartoon.

: Heh (none / 0) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:29:36 PM EST

I don't have any problem with Hannity (5.00 / 2) (#4)
by andgarden on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:28:07 PM EST

being a partisan. After all, that's what he is.

We should absolutely try to embarrass Democrats who go on Fox News with this, though.

So do so (none / 0) (#8)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:31:47 PM EST

Go forth and embarrass . . .


: I'll grab the banana phone! (none / 0) (#12)
by andgarden on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 03:17:24 PM EST

Yeah, Kos gave Ford the kabiff (none / 0) (#1)
by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:14:52 PM EST

upside the badmouthing Reid on Fox News head. I only speak for me but that freshened things up. Like a gentle afternoon shower.

Heh (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:30:48 PM EST

Reminded of the saying about p--ing and saying its raining.


: You seem to echo (none / 0) (#13)
by andgarden on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 03:19:26 PM EST

Judge Judy. heh

Heh!! Of course not... (none / 0) (#3)
by Edger on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:24:34 PM EST

And he's not in the executive branch ['s pocket] either...

:-)

Well (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:31:19 PM EST

HE won't be if a Dem ever gets back there.


: Jesus, I hope so!!! (none / 0) (#9)
by Edger on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:32:55 PM EST

Hannity... (none / 0) (#17)
by desertswine on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 03:55:27 PM EST

is not a journalist because professional journalists have a code of ethics.

Hannity doesn't.


Then you know what'd be great? (none / 0) (#10)
by jr on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:59:16 PM EST

If Fox would, during his show, remove the logo at the bottom-left that identifies the program as "news."

Actually, it'd be even better if they got rid of it altogether, since it's never been much more than a rather unfunny joke. Do they really want to keep up the pretense that Brit Hume and Chris Wallace are anything other than "conservative commentators"? How about O'Reilly?

: we should sue them (5.00 / 1) (#26)
by coigue on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:30:41 PM EST

to place an asterisk on News.

: Yep (none / 0) (#19)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 04:03:21 PM EST

Much ado about nothing. (none / 0) (#11)
by Gabriel Malor on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 01:04:05 PM EST

OMG, Hannity is not a journalist! Duh.

Neither is Limbaugh. Neither is Carville. Neither is the editorial board of the Washington Post. But all three will advocate for presidential candidates in the next year. No one's complaining about their advocacy because they aren't journalists.

The more the merrier... (1.00 / 1) (#28)
by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 10:50:27 PM EST

Now, if we could just NPR, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, CBS, NBC and ABC to fess up things would be cheerry o.


name one reporter ... (5.00 / 1) (#30)
by Sailor on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 08:40:54 AM EST

... from any of those organizations (several of whom have extremist wrongwing hosts) that has hosted fundraisers for a candidates.


Sailor does the strawman trick... (none / 0) (#32)
by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 03:08:28 PM EST

Name me one that an informed person would call a reporter, much less the exalted poistion of "journalist."

The (Seattke Times) paper's David Postman clarified in an August 14 "Postman on Politics" blog post that while it "sounds like a conservative's parody of how a news meeting would be run... It was only a couple of people who cheered [Rove's resignation] and they, thankfully, are not among the people who get a say in news play."

And the check's in the mail, its only a cold sore,
the Beamer is paid for, of course I'll rspect you in the morning and I'm from headquarters and I'm here to help you.....


dodging the question (none / 0) (#34)
by Sailor on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 03:54:55 PM EST

Name one reporter from NPR, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, CBS, NBC and ABC that hosted a fundraiser for a candidate.


: Sailor hangs on to them there starwmen (1.00 / 1) (#35)
by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 08:31:17 PM EST

Answer it yourself. I never said they did.
Do you think you must host a fundraise to NOT be a reporter/journalist??
It then follow that if you DO NOT host a fundraiser you are reporter/journalust??
Heh
Don't miss my show at 9PM EDT.

nor is O'Reilly (none / 0) (#14)
by Sumner on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 03:30:35 PM EST

as evidenced by...


Indeed. (1.00 / 1) (#16)
by Gabriel Malor on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 03:46:32 PM EST

No one ever said he was.


Fox has no journalists (5.00 / 1) (#18)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 04:02:59 PM EST

Agreed?


Alan Colmes? (none / 0) (#21)
by oculus on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 04:18:35 PM EST

: sans Hannity? (none / 0) (#23)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 04:40:31 PM EST

Yes.

Eric Burns (none / 0) (#24)
by andgarden on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 04:45:23 PM EST

And Fox News Watch. Olbermann seyz so.


Your pals just like (5.00 / 1) (#20)
by jondee on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 04:15:35 PM EST

to encourage the illusion that he is; hence the Fair and Balanced b.s and, as someone else pointed out, the constant suggestion that the commentary is "News", i.e., relativly objective and factual.


No one ever said he was? (5.00 / 2) (#22)
by Alien Abductee on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 04:24:35 PM EST

The premise underlying this whole discussion of Beauchamp and the TNR, for example, is that Limbaugh and Hannity ARE journalists. The whole discussion is about journalism and its practitioners.

They hide behind the righteousness of "impartial journalist" when it's convenient to their argument. When Hannity "interviews" the Sec of State or Limbaugh "interviews" the VP for example. But when caught out on unmistakable bias, suddenly they're just commentators. So convenient, but they can't have it both ways.


: Thanks for the giggle. (1.00 / 1) (#27)
by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 10:48:06 PM EST

Surely you aren't saying Beaucamp is a journalist.

Question (none / 0) (#25)
by scarshapedstar on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:50:30 PM EST

I always thought journalists presented "news". Am I wrong?


: You got me (1.00 / 0) (#33)
by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 03:10:38 PM EST

I think reporters became journalist about the same time that teachers became educators and salesmen became account executives...
All with the same disappointing results.

how many hosted fund raisers? (none / 0) (#15)
by Sailor on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 03:39:56 PM EST

And the standard editorial policies are to disclose ties to candidates.


: Aren't Hannity's lips..... (none / 0) (#31)
by kdog on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 12:19:16 PM EST

securely fastened to Rudy's keister enough of a disclosure?

odd, i thought limbaugh (none / 0) (#36)
by cpinva on Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 11:40:06 PM EST

was an "entertainer"? or so he's claimed many times, when he's been caught in some inanity or another. granted, not a very good one, but nonetheless..................

i'm not sure exactly what it is mr. hannity does. from the little i've heard him, it's not at all clear he knows either. maybe they just gave him a title, so they could put something next to his name in the staff phonebook?

out of curiosity, do they check the iq's of the audience members, of the various shows? limbaugh has to have the record for the lowest level average audience iq, and still be considered (mildly) sentient beings.

: They are all entertainers, (1.00 / 1) (#37)
by jimakaPPJ on Wed Aug 22, 2007 at 10:34:35 AM EST

on the Left and on the Right and when they cease to be entertaining, they will be gone because their audience will be gone.
So if you want to get rich, think up a way to get millions of people to listen to you for three hours a day.
Remember PBS and NPR was invented because there wasn't a market for "serious" news, etc.