Because in that respect they've done very well by Bush and Rover.

Governing was never in the playbook methinks.  And I think the 1000 Year Right was just so much misdirection.

January 1, 2003
Why Are These Men Laughing?

Eventually, I met with Rove. I arrived at his office a few minutes early, just in time to witness the Rove Treatment, which, like LBJ's famous browbeating style, is becoming legend but is seldom reported. Rove's assistant, Susan Ralston, said he'd be just a minute. She's very nice, witty and polite. Over her shoulder was a small back room where a few young men were toiling away. I squeezed into a chair near the open door to Rove's modest chamber, my back against his doorframe.

Inside, Rove was talking to an aide about some political stratagem in some state that had gone awry and a political operative who had displeased him. I paid it no mind and reviewed a jotted list of questions I hoped to ask. But after a moment, it was like ignoring a tornado flinging parked cars. "We will f*ck him. Do you hear me? We will f*ck him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever f*cked him!" As a reporter, you get around--curse words, anger, passionate intensity are not notable events--but the ferocity, the bellicosity, the violent imputations were, well, shocking. This went on without a break for a minute or two. Then the aide slipped out looking a bit ashen, and Rove, his face ruddy from the exertions of the past few moments, looked at me and smiled a gentle, Clarence-the-Angel smile. "Come on in." And I did. And we had the most amiable chat for a half hour.
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Since then, I've talked to old colleagues, dating back twenty-five years, one of whom said, "Some kids want to grow up to be president. Karl wanted to grow up to be Mark Hanna. We'd talk about it all the time. We'd say, 'Jesus, Karl, what kind of kid wants to grow up to be Mark Hanna?'" In any event, it's clear, when I think of my encounter with Rove, why this particular old friend of his, and scores of others--many of whom spoke of the essential good nature of this man who was a teammate on some campaign or other--don't want their names mentioned, ever. Just like Rove's mates on the current team--the one running the free world--who go numb at the thought of talking frankly, for attribution, about him. These are powerful people, confident and consequential, who suffer gaze aversion when I mention his name.

The Theresa Schiavo fiasco, the SS scam, and immigration reform were standard political bamboozlement, in which Rove has no special skills.

I suspect the answer here is that Rove never truly had a lot of political acumen. He had campaign acumen. He was good at winning elections, but not at much else.

You do realize, there's nothing to stop you from posting your opinion on his website, PPJ.

History will judge Rove a colossal failure, a man who never understood how to govern

Rove was praised as a genius by allies and opponents alike, until the 2006 midterm election when Democrats took control of Congress. Since then, Rove's legacy has been a matter of debate in Republican circles: Did the excesses of Republican control of Congress lead to the election loss? Or was Rove's highly partisan brand of politics unsustainable over the long term, especially with the country unnerved by the war in Iraq?

Rove puts the blame firmly on Republican lawmakers: "The sense of entitlement was there ... and people smelled it," Rove said

What is it with liberals/democrats and their hatred of Rove?   They seem to try and have it both ways.   On one hand he's an evil genius and the other a colossal failure.

He like Bush can't be both.  

He was a successful political advisor that went 3 for 4 in national elections.   Ask most advisors and campaign managers if they'd like to have that record and they would all tell you yes.

He said he believed the scrutiny would continue after he left the White House because of what he called the "myth" of his influence, which he referred to as "the Mark of Rove."

AND they did steal and they are stealing and they are unaccountable.

they do NOT care about being FDR or Lincoln, they care about stealing and living large and not getting caught.

they are NOT any different than any corrupt ruling class since before the Pharoahs.

Dems who want to treat these scum as anything less than enemies will lose ...

see 1980 to ... today!