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Yglesias reminds us of this 2004 TNR article of how retribution in the foreign policy establishment works:

For many in the Democratic foreign policy establishment, Dean was seen as dangerous. . . . No one was more concerned on this score than Daalder's Brookings colleague and occasional co-author, Michael O'Hanlon, who penned scathing op-eds in The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Times attacking Dean. O'Hanlon, who advises several of the candidates--including Kerry--told me, "More Democrats should have recognized [Dean's] danger and spoken out against him." . . . [N]ow that Dean is done, Rice and especially Daalder may find their career prospects also dimmed. When I spoke with the foreign policy gurus who would likely stock a Democratic administration, they seemed to regard the Dean campaign as a debilitating black mark on one's resumé. . . . "This whole campaign causes me to question [Daalder's and Rice's] judgment . . ."

Now O'Hanlon and Pollack dishonestly claim to have been critics of the war and the Surge. So they are dishonest AND wrong. There should be repercussions for such behavior. No Democrat should consider having them in their Administration. Their judgment AND their word can not be trusted.

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    Some Democrat ought to Sistah Souljah (none / 0) (#1)
    by Geekesque on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 11:47:33 AM EST
    these Brookings clowns.

    Why not Obama? (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 11:53:20 AM EST
    I understand Daalder and Rice now work for him.

    Parent
    Obama doesn't generally buy into Sistah Souljah (none / 0) (#14)
    by Geekesque on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:50:28 PM EST
    tactics.

    His foreign policy speech today made withdrawal from Iraq the cornerstone of his entire national security strategy.

    Parent

    Something like (none / 0) (#3)
    by Edger on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 11:53:33 AM EST
    Democratic Presidential frontrunner candidates who continue to vote to fund the Iraq Occupation while ::saying:: they would end it if only people will hold their noses against the stink and support them?

    No one should consider having them in a Democratic Administration.

    So far (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 11:55:49 AM EST
    they have voted against funding for the war this year.

    but they have not led on the issue.

    Parent

    As far as I know (none / 0) (#5)
    by Edger on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:01:35 PM EST
    they both voted for the supplemental in March. Was I looking at the wrong roll call?

    Parent
    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:03:20 PM EST
    All but Biden voted AGAINST the supplemental.

    Parent
    If so I withdraw the criticism. (none / 0) (#7)
    by Edger on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:05:04 PM EST
    I was looking at H.R. 1591.

    Parent
    That one had timelines (none / 0) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:11:02 PM EST
    Bush vetoed it right?

    I am sure that Clinton and Obama voted last and voted against it.

    Parent

    Yes, see my reply below (none / 0) (#12)
    by andgarden on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:12:59 PM EST
    Yup (none / 0) (#8)
    by andgarden on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:06:56 PM EST
    That was when Obama and Hillary slipped in at the last minute to vote no. Of the candidates in the Senate, only Dodd announced that he would vote no early and publicly.

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    What was the Bill #? (none / 0) (#9)
    by Edger on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:09:12 PM EST
    It's a bit obscured (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by andgarden on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:12:32 PM EST
    by the whole "agree to the Senate amendment" blah, blah stuff, but the roll call is here.

    Parent
    Ok. Thanks, andgarden (none / 0) (#13)
    by Edger on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:15:02 PM EST
    I feel a bit of a fool, but I'll get over it. Not the first time. Probably not the last.  Ahem. ;-)

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    Apparently cheney made reference (none / 0) (#15)
    by Oliver W Holmes the 3rd on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:55:39 PM EST
    to these two last night during his Larry King Live chat.  

    CHENEY: I believe so. I think we're seeing already, from others -- don't take it from me. Look at the piece that appeared yesterday in "The New York Times," not exactly a friendly publication -- but a piece by Mr. O'Hanlon and Mr. Pollack on the situation in Iraq.

    They're are just back from visiting over there. They both have been strong critics of the war, both worked in the prior administration. But now saying that they think there is a possibility, indeed, that we could be successful. So we'll know a lot more in September, when General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker come back and report, sort of, to Congress and to the president on the situation in Iraq and whether or not we're making progress. Obviously...

    KING: You don't...

    CHENEY: ...we want to get it done as quickly as possible.

    KING: You don't know what to expect though, do you?

    Or do you?

    CHENEY: Well, I -- I think it's going to show that we will have made significant progress. The reports I'm hearing from people whose views I respect indicate that, indeed, the Petraeus plan is, in fact, producing results.


    CNN Transcript

    These two clowns are able to give bushco cover on "progress in Iraq.

    SHAMEFUL (none / 0) (#16)
    by aqakbani on Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 12:38:15 PM EST
    Republican Tom Tancredo, for saying the best way he could think of to deter a nuclear terrorist attack on the U.S. would be to threaten to retaliate by bombing the holiest Islamic sites of Mecca and Medina DOSE HE THINK HE IS SO CHEAP TO SPEAK SUCH A THING FOR HUMILATING ANOTHER PEOPLE'S FAITH JUST TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF USA