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Eric Alterman Released After Arrest in Debate Spin Room

Calling any criminal defense lawyers in New Hampshire: Eric Alterman may need your help:

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (CNN ) – Columnist and author Eric Alterman was arrested Sunday night inside the debate spin room and charged with criminal trespass after police say he refused repeated orders to leave.

Goffstown, N.H. police say Alterman was in the spin room as a guest of the Creative Coalition and went to an area reserved for a private reception for WMUR-TV. Police say he was asked by an executive at the party if he was invited to the private area and was asked to leave. A police officer was called after a verbal altercation ensued. He was asked by police seven times to leave, and police say he became increasingly loud as he refused. After ignoring a final request, police say he was handcuffed and taken from the building. He is charged with criminal trespass, and a bail commissioner will determine if he will be released.

Update: I just got an e-mail from Eric explaining what happened. Here it is:

"Top of the World, Ma"
Ok, here's what happened.

I came to New Hampshire with the Creative Coalition for a panel tomorrow morning and was supposed to be in the auditorium for the debate but because I am a journalist, they were told I would have to wait in the spin room. When I got to the spin room, which was an empty gymnasium, I noticed that there were chairs located on a balcony above us. So I went up there--no one asked me for my ID or anything--and went over to the bar and asked if it was a cash bar, because I had no idea what kind of event it was. I was told it was an open bar so I asked for a glass of wine and a glass of water and went to sit down and wait for the event to begin.

A guy came over and asked me who I was and I told him I was a colmunist for The Nation and he told me I had to leave. I thought he was kind of rude, so I asked him his name, thinking it might go into Altercation the next day. He refused to answer me I asked again. He refused again. But I was following him out when he went to get a cop. The cop told me to leave the room and I did. We left the room, past where the people were handing out badges to go into the reception and I figured the entire drama was over. But the cop kept yelling at me to leave. I didn't understand. I thought I had left. I asked him to stop yelling, I had left. He kept telling me to leave. In retrospect, I guess he was kicking me out of the building and I didn't understand, but it was really mystifying and annoying and I told him I wanted to speak to his commanding officer.

We went over to the commanding officer and I, calmly and politely, sought to explain that I didn't know why this cop was continuing to hassle me. The first cop kept interrupting me as I tried to explain myself and finally I turned around and said, "Can I please finish a sentence here?" That's when the first cop decided to arrest me. He handcuffed me behind my back and took me outside.

(A funny aside, Congressman Ed Markey happen to walk by then and came over to say hello to me and stuck out his hand for a shake. I had to say, "Sorry, Ed, I'm being handcuffed." He laughed, and told the officers that he would vouch for my character and walked away.)

Anyway, I never refused to leave and the only time I raised my voice was when the first cop would not let me explain what I had thought was a massive misunderstanding to his commanding officer. Once I was arrested and brought to the Goffstown station, I actually had a pretty nice time with the cops there, who were very friendly and understanding of my situation. When they learned I was a writer and planned to write about this incident, they wanted to make sure that I knew that the cop who had arrested me was not one of theirs, but was from another town and had been working on an "reciprocity" arrangement.

I paid a $30 to be released and the whole thing took about 45 minutes. I filed a written report with the police explaining that I thought the arresting officer had treated me unfairly, and I do think this was the case, but I now think it was based on a misunderstanding on just where he wanted me to stay and where he wanted me to leave.

In any case, I spoke to CNN and I believe they will correct some of the misimpressions created by their first story. Just to be clear, I did not refuse to leave seven times and I did not, as far as I know, raise my voice, except for that last time.

For the record, I also don't remember anyone reading me my Miranda rights, though I don't know if that is ultimately going to matter. I have a court date in July but I am hoping to be able to clear it up before I leave tomorrow because it strikes me as mosty, a misunderstanding.
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    Cops with 3rd grade education (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by manys on Sun Jun 03, 2007 at 10:58:48 PM EST
    I've seen several times where the cops do something like that, "LEAVE!" without using any other words. I guess they are trained that if you do that, anybody who doesn't get out of earshot is resisting arrest.

    children (none / 0) (#15)
    by eric on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 07:25:15 AM EST
    Didn't you know, you are supposed to read their minds!

    Again, just like a frustrated little kid.

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    Shorter (1.00 / 1) (#6)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jun 03, 2007 at 11:15:17 PM EST
    A guy came over and asked me who I was and I told him I was a colmunist for The Nation and he told me I had to leave. I thought he was kind of rude, so I asked him his name, thinking it might go into Altercation the next day.

    Okay, he wandered into an area where he was not wanted and was asked to leave. Rather than just doing so he let his ego take over and demanded the name of the person who was supposed to be there and who had asked him to leave.

    In the midst of this the person who had asked him to leave, and whose name he had demanded, went looking for a cop. Alterman was following and ran into one who wasn't very happy with life, especially life that involved putting up with Eric Alterman at that particular moment.

    Six weekends in jail plus a $1000 fine plus costs should set things about right.

    Simpler. Next time you are asked to leave... leave.

    Hey, you. Leave. (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by scarshapedstar on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 01:23:37 AM EST
    What, you're not gonna listen to me? ;)

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    scar (1.00 / 0) (#14)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 07:18:26 AM EST
    Have I ever??

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    Re: Shorter (none / 0) (#8)
    by kst on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 12:53:40 AM EST
    Simpler. Next time you are asked to leave... leave.

    Even simpler: Next time you ask someone to leave, maybe you should establish that you actually have the right to do so.

    Some random person ordered him to leave. He didn't resist, he just asked for his name. He was on his way out, as requested, when the cop showed up. And you want to fine him $1000 and put him in jail for six weekends? What for, cooperating with insufficient enthusiasm?


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    kst (1.00 / 0) (#11)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 07:13:01 AM EST
    A guy came over and asked me who I was and I told him I was a colmunist for The Nation and he told me I had to leave. I thought he was kind of rude, so I asked him his name, thinking it might go into Altercation the next day. He refused to answer me I asked again. He refused again. But I was following him out when he went to get a cop.

    Shorter. The random guy you refer to, per Alterman, was going to get a cop. That normally is a clue that the guy isn't "random."

    Plainer. He was asked to leave. He thought it rude. He got into an argument. He lost.

    Shorter. Next time you are asked to leave...leave.

    And no, I don't think he should do jail time.

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    above (1.00 / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 07:15:33 AM EST
    The first paragraph of the above is a quote from Alterman's email. Don't know why the quote function didn't do its job.

    Guess it was asked to leave....and left, ;-)

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    Re: Shorter (none / 0) (#27)
    by kst on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 07:14:46 PM EST
    Shorter. Next time you are asked to leave...leave.

    So if I walk up to you in a public place and ask you to leave, I can expect you to obey without question?

    If Alterman's account is accurate, he should never have been arrested.

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    kst (none / 0) (#28)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 10:18:58 PM EST
    I was told it was an open bar so I asked for a glass of wine and a glass of water and went to sit down and wait for the event to begin.

    That means free booze. I have always understood that free booze is not available at public places.

    We left the room, past where the people were handing out badges to go into the reception

    I have always understood that free booze and name tags means that the function is private.

    Alterman is a big boy and certainly didn't fall off a turnip truck. He wandered into a provate party and was asked who we was. When he told the guy he was asked to leave. That hurt his ego, so he tried to come back and demand to know who was throwing him out. Didn't make any difference because he wasn't invited and had been asked to leave.

    Talking about the other guy is just a strawhorse.

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    My old buddy Jim..... (none / 0) (#16)
    by kdog on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 10:11:18 AM EST
    every authoritarians wet dream of a citizen.  You're too funny buddy.

    I found Eric's aside quite telling...

    Congressman Ed Markey happen to walk by then and came over to say hello to me and stuck out his hand for a shake. I had to say, "Sorry, Ed, I'm being handcuffed." He laughed

    I'm glad a congressman thinks the USA becoming "handcuff nation" is something to laugh about.

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    kdog (none / 0) (#18)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 11:50:18 AM EST
    Uh, so you think a Congressman should be able to interfere with a policeman carrying out his duties??

    Actually, when I read that I was reminded of how the Demo pols have walked away from the Left..The check's in the mail...I'll respect you in the morning...

    BTW - Alterman says it himself... When he was asked who he was, and after telling the guy, he was asked to leave. His ego got in the way..always a bad thing.

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    I'd expect the Congressman... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 12:46:07 PM EST
    to ask what is going on, not laugh.

    Was that what this policeman was doing, carrying out his duties?  Sounds to me like he was on a ball-busting power trip.

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    kdog (none / 0) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 07:00:15 PM EST
    Well, the Congressman didn't meet your expectations.

    Was the cop on a power trip?

    Maybe he just thought Alterman should quit tresspassing and leave without demanding names, etc.

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    Alterman says it was a misunderstanding. (none / 0) (#1)
    by tbetz on Sun Jun 03, 2007 at 10:02:59 PM EST
    From Eschaton (quoting Alterman):

    Ok, here's what happened.

    I came to New Hampshire with the Creative Coalition for a panel tomorrow morning and was supposed to be in the auditorium for the debate but because I am a journalist, they were told I would have to wait in the spin room. When I got to the spin room, which was an empty gymnasium, I noticed that there were chairs located on a balcony above us. So I went up there--no one asked me for my ID or anything--and went over to the bar and asked if it was a cash bar, because I had no idea what kind of event it was. I was told it was an open bar so I asked for a glass of wine and a glass of water and went to sit down and wait for the event to begin.

    A guy came over and asked me who I was and I told him I was a colmunist for The Nation and he told me I had to leave. I thought he was kind of rude, so I asked him his name, thinking it might go into Altercation the next day. He refused to answer me I asked again. He refused again. But I was following him out when he went to get a cop. The cop told me to leave the room and I did. We left the room, past where the people were handing out badges to go into the reception and I figured the entire drama was over. But the cop kept yelling at me to leave. I didn't understand. I thought I had left. I asked him to stop yelling, I had left. He kept telling me to leave. In retrospect, I guess he was kicking me out of the building and I didn't understand, but it was really mystifying and annoying and I told him I wanted to speak to his commanding officer.

    We went over to the commanding officer and I, calmly and politely, sought to explain that I didn't know why this cop was continuing to hassle me. The first cop kept interrupting me as I tried to explain myself and finally I turned around and said, "Can I please finish a sentence here?" That's when the first cop decided to arrest me. He handcuffed me behind my back and took me outside.

    (A funny aside, Congressman Ed Markey happen to walk by then and came over to say hello to me and stuck out his hand for a shake. I had to say, "Sorry, Ed, I'm being handcuffed." He laughed, and told the officers that he would vouch for my character and walked away.)

    Anyway, I never refused to leave and the only time I raised my voice was when the first cop would not let me explain what I had thought was a massive misunderstanding to his commanding officer. Once I was arrested and brought to the Goffstown station, I actually had a pretty nice time with the cops there, who were very friendly and understanding of my situation. When they learned I was a writer and planned to write about this incident, they wanted to make sure that I knew that the cop who had arrested me was not one of theirs, but was from another town and had been working on an "reciprocity" arrangement.

    I paid a $30 to be released and the whole thing took about 45 minutes. I filed a written report with the police explaining that I thought the arresting officer had treated me unfairly, and I do think this was the case, but I now think it was based on a misunderstanding on just where he wanted me to stay and where he wanted me to leave.

    In any case, I spoke to CNN and I believe they will correct some of the misimpressions created by their first story. Just to be clear, I did not refuse to leave seven times and I did not, as far as I know, raise my voice, except for that last time.

    For the record, I also don't remember anyone reading me my Miranda rights, though I don't know if that is ultimately going to matter. I have a court date in July but I am hoping to be able to clear it up before I leave tomorrow because it strikes me as mosty, a misunderstanding.



    thanks (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Jun 03, 2007 at 10:14:33 PM EST
    I just got the email from Eric and updated my post.   He sent it to Atrios too.

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    He's sending it to a lot of people tonight. (none / 0) (#5)
    by tbetz on Sun Jun 03, 2007 at 11:06:15 PM EST
    I note that he posted it on the Political Ticker comments, too.

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    Goffstown police (none / 0) (#4)
    by shpilk on Sun Jun 03, 2007 at 11:00:37 PM EST
    I live right over the hill from St. Anselms. Literally, right down the street.

    Most of the Goffstown cops are OK [neighbor where I used to live in Manchester was on Goffstown PD, and her husband was on Manchester PD .. and across the street we had a State Trooper!].

    What Eric said, that 'they wanted to make sure that I knew that the cop who had arrested me was not one of theirs, but was from another town and had been working on an "reciprocity" arrangement.' makes me smile, because of the smaller towns have some real doozys. I know some of them, too. :)

    FWIW.

    6 + 1000 (none / 0) (#7)
    by killer on Sun Jun 03, 2007 at 11:26:59 PM EST
    Jim, you seem to know a lot. Is six weekends + $1000.00 fine a typical sanction for the charge of criminal trespass? It seems to me (and my evidence is either personal or anecdotal) that most trespass charges are dropped or fined about $100.00. What is there about any of the descriptions of this event that leads you to believe that jail time is apropriate?

    killer (1.00 / 0) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 07:17:22 AM EST
    Did you really take my suggestion seriously?

    Wow.

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    so far (none / 0) (#17)
    by cpinva on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 10:40:15 AM EST
    i have yet to see anything substantiating that mr alterman was, in fact, trespassing. according to his statement, some guy, unidentified, asked him to leave. after being asked his name, he went to get a cop, or claimed he was going to. at this point, he's still unidentified.

    what seems to be clear, from the email, is that, upon being asked to identify himself, the individual refused to do so. perhaps, had he, everything else could have been avoided.

    any idiot can go get a cop, last i checked. do you know this to not be true jim? please, do share with the rest of the class your special, inside knowledge. :)

    cpinva (none / 0) (#19)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 12:03:54 PM EST
    cpinva.... If you will be a good little boy I'll give you my decoder ring to use for a whole week...

    And Alterman tells us he was following the guy when he ran into the cop.... So that tells me the guy found the cop and asked for assistance... Alterman wrote:

    and went over to the bar and asked if it was a cash bar, because I had no idea what kind of event it was.

    If I go into an area that is located inside a public building that is grouped together, I just assume it is a private function...especially if someone is passing out badges...

    Alterman wrote:

    We left the room, past where the people were handing out badges to go into the reception

    So what we have is a guy who crashes a private party, is asked to leave and gets unhappy big time when his questions are ignored...and you think it is the other guys fault????

    Use the ring,

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    One down, (none / 0) (#20)
    by jondee on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 12:12:12 PM EST
    a hundred million to go, eh Jim? We'll stop the radical Left from destroying this country yet.

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    it's useless ... (none / 0) (#23)
    by Sailor on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 02:29:32 PM EST
    ... trying to point out to ppj what's wrong with this situation when he endorses throwing citizens out of public events for having bumper stickers.

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    Jondee and sailor... (none / 0) (#29)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 10:27:15 PM EST
    So you think anyone who wants to can wander into a private party and stay when asked to leave??

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    Being bonded out of jail for $30 is a good deal. (none / 0) (#22)
    by JSN on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 02:06:34 PM EST
    In far too many cases the best thing that can happen is for the arresting officer to leave the jail.

    Criminal trespass by a journalist in a "spin room" (imagine that) what next? We sometimes have interns prosecute such cases to get experience. If I were an intern and I was assigned that case I would think maybe the county attorney is trying to tell me something.

    Hmm maybe the $30 was a booking fee (none / 0) (#25)
    by JSN on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 04:22:58 PM EST
    and he was released on recognizance.

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    No, it wasn't a "spin room." (none / 0) (#30)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 10:32:19 PM EST
    He left the spin room and went....

    Goffstown, N.H. police say Alterman was in the spin room as a guest of the Creative Coalition and went to an area reserved for a private reception for WMUR-TV.


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    DA (none / 0) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 08:24:21 AM EST
    That's a good question, and the "geography" of the building is not well defined in the information. From Alterman's email we know he left the "spin room" and went to the location of the "function." He then:

    .... was following him out when he went to get a cop. The cop told me to leave the room and I did. We left the room, past where the people were handing out badges to go into the reception

    What we don't know is where the "badge handing out" location was. Was it at the entrance of a well defined area? Or was it just set up kinda up front of the area where people could wander in, see it, get their badges, etc... We don't know..

    As for him wanting to know who had asked him to leave, why is that important? He knew it was a private function. All it should have taken was a hint that he wasn't welcome for him to quietly get up and leave.

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    Theft, too (none / 0) (#24)
    by eric on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 03:22:27 PM EST
    He's lucky he isn't being charged for fraud and theft for taking that free glass of wine under false pretenses.

    This is just karma (none / 0) (#34)
    by DarthNader on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 04:29:54 PM EST
    I think it is so funny that this guy who spends so much time bashing Nader is given a taste of the political environment he supports. He wants Nader to go far away, and he himself is arrested for appearing at a debate. Can you say karma? I personally support any action to get Alterman to shut his trap. He comes off as such a drama queen...

    This is so funny, but there is a sad side to this too. It is very sad that someone who went to all of these hi-falutin' universities cannot interpret exit poll results. Like the CNN exit poll results from 2000 -- 7% of Nader supporters voted for Perot in 1996. Only 2% of them voted for Clinton in 1996. 1% voted for Dole. Appearantly Alterman is so insanely "smart" that  first grade math has been purged out of his cranium. Alterman, you do not have any evidence to support your allegations. The 2000 NBC exit polls asked Nader supporters who they would vote for if Ralph didn't run -- NO ONE! If anything Nader helped Gore by attracting Perot voters. Gore ran a very bad campaign and did not mobilize black voters and distanced himself from Clinton who had a 60% approval rating. He lost his home state and Clinton's home state. The benefit of having a Dixiecrat nomination is that they should win some Southern states. Of course, that would involve running a competent campaign. Gore is solely to blame for losing. Sour grapes... get over it!

    I think this is the same Stanford arrogance that I have to deal with every day in the Silly Con Valley. Yes, you have a Ph.D. from Stanford, so you can fabricate your own facts. Yes, if Gore was elected, we would be dropping roses on Bagdad from B-52 bombers.

    It is such delicious irony that this drama queen got arrested. I will be laughing for the next 20 years about this one. ROTFLOL!!!

    I mean, how can anyone support a liar like Hillary. When she announced her election bid she said she would end the war in Iraq, stop the genocide in Darfur, stop global warming (even though the UN says this is not possible), provide universal health coverage and so on. Oh brother... Then she continually votes to FUND the war. Does anyone realize that when the Democrats say they will end the war, this means there will still be 70,000 U.S. troops in Iraq? This is straight outta Orwell, folks!

    Hillary has supported the war from day one and even has speeches on her web site claiming that Iran is a threat and it would be OK to have military action against them, so long as Congress approves?!? (check it out if you don't believe me!) She is a hawk war monger on the payroll of the defense industry. Period. Oh, and we will get that health care the Democrats have been promising since JFK. Really, this time it will happen... How stupid can you get?

    Hillary vs. Guiliani/Romney is about as Tweedledee vs. Tweedledumbarse as they come, folks. Wise up! I'm glad Nader will run if Hillary does, but will back off if Obama runs. Obama is decent -- he has been against the war since day one. About 10% of Democrats are actually populists and leftists. The rest are sold out pawns. But I already know the DNC will nominate Hillary. They play that way... They like the centrist Dixiecrats too much.

    Alterman is a drama queen pundit who should be locked up in a looney bin. Watching "An Unreasonable Man", he is just such a queen, it makes me laugh. Maybe if you had some evidence or data, instead of drama, you would have some integrity. No wonder he was on MSNBC instead of working as a real academic. It's just easier to be a pundit and not have any facts to support what you say. Most dummies will believe it.