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Most political junkies are watching the Democratic debate. Me, I'm watching the NBA draft.

My early reviews as to who is having a good night? Portland got Oden. Traded Zack Randolph to the Knicks for Steve Francis and Channing Frye (other players involved). Since I think Oden will be the modern day Russell, Portland can do no wrong tonight.

As far as who did the most with what they had, I like the Hawks draft, Al Horford and Acie Law are very good value for 3 and 11 though I think Horford went too high and Law went too low. The headscratcher for me, from BOTH ENDS, is the Celtics-Sonics trade, 32 year old Ray Allen for the 5, and that pick is Jeff Green? Worst pick of the draft imo. Green was not a top 15 player in this draft. He disappeared at the end of games.

Most of you don't give a hoot about any of this, but don't worry, it is an Open Thread.

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    The south shall be risable again! (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Sailor on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:40:29 AM EST
    Background:
    * On Thursday, August 31, 2006, a small group of black students asked if they could sit under a tree on the traditionally white side of the Jena High School square.
     * The students were informed by the Vice Principal that they could sit wherever they pleased.
     * The following day, September 1, 2006, three nooses were found hanging from the tree in question. Two of the nooses were black and one was gold: the Jena High School colors.
    [...]
     * Principal Scott Windham recommended to an expulsion hearing committee that the three white boys responsible for hanging the nooses in the tree should be expelled from school.
    [...]
     * When black students staged an impromptu protest under the tree on Wednesday, September 6, 2006, a school assembly was hastily convened. Flanked by police officers, District Attorney Reed Walters warned black students that additional unrest would be treated as a criminal matter. According to multiple witnesses, Walters warned the black student protestors that, "I can make your lives disappear with a stroke of my pen."
    [...]
    * In one incident, a black student was assaulted by a white adult as he entered a predominantly white partly held at the Fair Barn  (a large metal building reserved for social events). After being struck in the face without warning, the young black student was assaulted by white students wielding beer bottles and was punched and kicked before adults broke up the fight. It has been reported that the white assailant who threw the first punch was subsequently charged with simple battery(a misdemeanor), but there is no documentary evidence that anyone was charged.
     * In a second major incident, a white high school graduate who had been involved in the assault the night before pulled a pump-action shotgun on three black high school students as they exited the Gotta-Go, a local convenience store. After a brief struggle for possession of the firearm, the black students exited the scene with the weapon.
    [...]
     * Shortly after the lunch hour of Monday, December 4, 2006, a fight between a white student and a black student reportedly ended with the white student [Justin Barker, later arrested for having a rifle with 13 bullets in his truck in the school parking lot.] being knocked to the floor. Several black students reportedly attacked the white student as he lay unconscious. Because the incident took place in a crowded area and was over in a matter of seconds eye witness accounts vary widely. Written statements from students closest to the scene (in space and time) suggest that the incident was sparked by an angry exchange in the gymnasium moments before in which the black student assaulted at the Fair Barn was taunted for having his "ass whipped".
     *  The victim of the attack is close friends of the boys who have admitted to hanging the nooses in September of 2006.
     *  Within an hour of the fight, six black students were arrested and charged with aggravated battery.
    [...]
     According to The Jena Times, at least a dozen teachers subsequently threatened a "sick-out" if discipline was not restored to the school. According to the Alexandria Town Talk, District Attorney Reed Walters responded to the teacher's threat by upping the charges on the six boys to attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit second-degree murder--charges carrying a maximum sentence of life in prison.
    [...]
    The white boy who threw the first punch at the black student [Robert Bailey Jr.] at the Fair Barn was charged with simple battery - others who took part in the beating were not charged at all. The white adult (a Jena high school graduate) who threatened three black Jena students with a shotgun was not charged with a crime.
    [...]
    Black Teen Convicted After a prosecutor reduced attempted murder charges this week, an all-white jury found Mychal Bell, 17, guilty of aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated second-degree battery, both felonies.


    Who cares, it's just another (none / 0) (#38)
    by Electa on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 01:02:15 PM EST
    black boy who's life just went down the drain in the name of white justice.  Maybe Blacks will finally wise up, pull our children out of the malfunctioning public schools and assume the responsibility of educating our own children as every other nation of people does.  I'm not so sure the SCOTUS ruling is so bad afterall.  At least when our yunguns were educated in a secgregated environment our academic performance was greater, there were fewer drop-outs and we taught our own children.  In fact, just maybe Tavis Smiley should revisit the past 40 years of so-called integration and evaluate its overall benefit to Blacks as a whole.  I see very little progress as the lynchings continue.

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    BTD (none / 0) (#1)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:31:11 PM EST
    In spite of my deep distrust of you, any SEC fan can't be all bad.....well, almost any..

    ;-)

    I know College foootball (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:33:12 PM EST
    Let's Go Gators!!

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    Vandy's going bowling!!! (none / 0) (#32)
    by Slado on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:35:17 AM EST
    Not since 1982 have the Dores gone to the post season.

    This is the year!

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    What Vandy oughtta do... (none / 0) (#35)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:49:52 PM EST
    ...is lower that g*ddamn basketball floor in their arean.  The way it's raised is nuts, reminds of of when they had football goalposts at the goal line -- the footage of guys slamming into those things still makes me scratch my head and wonder why it took them so long to move the posts back.

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    What? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Slado on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:57:00 PM EST
    As someone who used to run up and down that floor during practice and sat on the baselines during games I take great offense.

    Memorial is one of the top ten places to watch college basketball in the country.

    It is a dedicated basketball gym.  It isn't designed for hockey, concerts, volleyball or anything else.  

    Have you ever been there Dadler?  I was there in 1993 when we beat Pitino and #1 Kentucky.  I was there this year when we beat #1 Florida and there is no place louder or harder to play in when it's rocking.

    Go Dores!

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    I love the arena (none / 0) (#40)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 01:15:42 PM EST
    Know what a gem it is, right up there in many ways with Hinkle Fieldhouse at Butler.  So I'm busting your nuts a bit.  But I have always disliked the raised floor.  I'm too much of a Jewish mother in an atheist father's body, and I'm always waiting for some kid to snap a leg going off the edge.  I worry, and put on your sunscreen.  Though the raised floor is obviously a great home court advantage/gimmick.

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    BTD (none / 0) (#3)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:37:35 PM EST
    Your season was made when you escaped a thord and 21...

    Not that I pay any attention..

    Oh many escapes (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:38:42 PM EST
    Truth be told, that was not a great team. Played their best on the most important night though.

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    I had to scroll down to the comments (none / 0) (#27)
    by HK on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 10:37:04 AM EST
    to find out if the NBA was to do with football or baseball...I feel like a total girl.

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    Debate just ended (none / 0) (#5)
    by andgarden on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:40:32 PM EST
    Amazingly, you didn't miss anything. . .

    I'll watch a repeat if (none / 0) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:43:43 PM EST
    I have trouble sleeping.

    It is hard enough to watch these things when they matter but to watch them now?

    Ugh.

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    There was some substance (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:51:48 PM EST
    but very little Iraq, and nothing said by any that I didn't already know.

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    Honestly (none / 0) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:52:45 PM EST
    It utterly bores me.

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    Petteri Koponen!!!!!! (none / 0) (#9)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:53:40 PM EST
    The Flying Finn!!

    I'll leave it cryptic.

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    meh, had to google that. n/t (none / 0) (#13)
    by andgarden on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:11:14 PM EST
    Finn Flies To Far West! (none / 0) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:17:40 PM EST
    Petteri to Portland . . .

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    And now--back to Nancy Grace. (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:21:37 PM EST
    Open Thread (none / 0) (#20)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:15:34 AM EST
    Very. (none / 0) (#21)
    by oculus on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:19:24 AM EST
    I've always thought the best job in the world would ber to write headlines for the sports section.  But you are so much better at alliteration (sp).  

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    Mandatory Minimum Sentences (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ben Masel on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:06:30 PM EST
    They all, I think, came out for getting  rid of them for drug cases. Even Biden.

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    Greed is Good. Greed is Right! (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:57:32 PM EST
    If you ever trusted the WSJ you can stop now.

    Hat Tip to Larisa, at-Largely:

    Wall Street Journos protest Murdoch Foxification of Dow Jones

    The surge is woooorrrrking... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:07:30 PM EST
    We're making progress in Iraaaaaaaq.

    This you have to like (none / 0) (#15)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:53:56 PM EST
    Chris Dodd's YouTube Spotlight
    ...we have the power to bypass bypass the traditional media filter by participating in discussions online, through blogs and YouTube, ensuring that the important issues - like how to responsibly end the war -- get the real attention that they deserve in the 2008 presidential campaign


    I didn't watch it but I read some of it (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:47:39 PM EST
    Joe Biden never lets me down talking about convincing black guys that wearing a condom isn't unmanly.  Joe obviously hasn't tried getting many whitish guys in a condom.  Show of hands here, how many have slept with a paler version of the male human species who just couldn't wait to get his hands on that condom and put it where it did the most good?

    Oops wrong thread (none / 0) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:49:15 PM EST
    I thought this was debate thread.  Oh well, such is life.

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    That's why its called an open (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:12:27 AM EST
    thread, no?  For a second there I though realitybites had discovered  Talk Left.

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    Levon Helm...... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 08:29:05 AM EST
    The guy blows me away....I can't say I've ever seen a human being look happier than Levon did last night banging the skins, strumming the mandolin, and singing his heart out in Central Park.  Real Americana music man...good for the soul.

    Out of nine lives, I spent seven
    Now, how in the world do you get to Heaven
    Oh, you don't know the shape I'm in

    Last night heaven was right off 69th and 5th.

    Sounds like it was a great concert, kdog. (none / 0) (#24)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 08:34:15 AM EST
    Do you know if it was recorded?

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    I don't know.... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 08:51:16 AM EST
    about a recording, but it was a great show edger.  You should check out Levon's website and catch him if he's coming your way.  Trust me.

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    I will... thanks. (none / 0) (#26)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 09:02:54 AM EST
    Bush - Creating the next Dark Ages? (none / 0) (#28)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:01:25 AM EST
    Bush, Mideast Wars and End-Time Prophecy
    President George W. Bush has become dangerously steeped in ideas of Armageddon, the Apocalypse, an imminent war with Satani