"Stripping Away The Inflammatory Rhetoric"

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:27:02 AM EST
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"Blonde airhead Media buffoon" David Gregory said to Elizabeth Edwards, that we should strip away Ms. Coulter's "inflammmatory rhetoric" and get to her real point which is that:

Bill Clinton "was a very good rapist"

and that:

Timothy McVeigh should have parked his truck in front of the New York Times, joked that a Supreme Court justice should be poisoned, and said that America should invade Muslim countries and kill their leaders.

and that John Edwards is a "faggot," has a bumper sticker that says "ask me about my dead son" and that he should be killed by terrorists.

But other than that, let's engage Coulter's substance - like her argument that McCarthyism was good because liberals are traitors.

Stripping away my joking inflammatory rhetoric about Gregory, my point is has David Gregory gone insane?

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Just whom started this?? (1.00 / 1) (#15)
by Poppy123 on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 06:06:32 PM EST

Wasn't it Elizabeth Edwards that told the nation that Lynne Cheney was embarrased that her daughter was gay?

Was that not an extremely personal attack on a spouse, not even a candidiate and not about an issue but about the personal relationship between a Mother and daughter?

Now she wants to take Coulter to task for doing exactly what she herself did??

: simple answers to stupid questions (none / 0) (#18)
by Sailor on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 06:30:05 PM EST

Was that not an extremely personal attack on a spouse, not even a candidiate and not about an issue but about the personal relationship between a Mother and daughter?
No.
Even the WH only has a pic of Darth cheney and Lye'n cheney holding their 'granddaughter.' No pics of the proud mother and mother were allowed. lynn is obviously ashamed of her daughter, otherwise her and dick wouldn't be against gays having the same rights the rest of Americans enjoy.
And all of that has nothing to do with shebiscut making fun of a dead child and saying John Edwards should be killed by terrorists.

: What is wrong with you people? (none / 0) (#21)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:28:21 PM EST

I know you'll probably disagree ... (none / 0) (#1)
by aj12754 on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:42:10 AM EST

but I think Gregory did us a favor (however unwittingly) because he simply said what a lot of the people who listen to Coulter believe -- that, behind the inflammatory rhetoric, she "has a point". By bringing that out into the open, he allowed Edwards to rebut the idea that there is any point at all to anything Coulter says.

And.. (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by aj12754 on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:43:41 AM EST

let's give some props to Gregory for pretty regularly befuddling Dana Perino (I know I know -- like shooting fish in a barrel but at least he picks up the BB gun)


Really! (none / 0) (#12)
by talex on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 04:05:18 PM EST

Usually the guy ask some pretty poignant questions of the BushCo. But this was bizarre!

What possible explanation could there be? Following marching orders - attack the doves?:

David Gregory = NBC = GE = Weapons maker

GE - they bring good things to life! (???)


: Oh please (none / 0) (#20)
by aj12754 on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 06:56:56 PM EST

watch the pressers - you guys like him when he makes Dana look like a cheerleader out of her element and you disdain him if he doesn't follow the playbook. Except he's not on your team.
You might want to take a 2nd look at GE's portfolio. The business model looks a little differnt than it did in the late 80s and early 90s.

Tilting at windmills, but (none / 0) (#3)
by andgarden on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:50:34 AM EST

Can I ask you to remove the Amazon link? Maybe replace it with something from Somerby?

Good point (none / 0) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:55:30 AM EST

Done


: Excellent, thanks. n/t (none / 0) (#6)
by andgarden on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:58:23 AM EST

But..but, he danced so great (none / 0) (#4)
by byteb on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:52:32 AM EST

at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

Who was wiretapped without a warrant? (none / 0) (#7)
by lilybart on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:23:54 AM EST

It seems the answer to that question is in front of us every day. They must have something on these media people and elected officials who are still supporting Bush although very few actual citizens still support them.

: Wouldn't be the first time.... (none / 0) (#8)
by kdog on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:53:18 AM EST

the recently declassified "family jewels" of the CIA show us no journalist is safe. They were surveilling Brit Hume for christs sake.
Not to mention the legacy of Hoover's spying at the FBI.

point(less) is the point (none / 0) (#9)
by dagzine on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:39:22 AM EST

To find a point (meaning, a reasonable claim, I suppose) in Coutler's performance might be impossible nevermind futile. I think her performance is without a point. It's the sound and fury thing. When you look beyond the performance, nothing is there. (Like what happens when you elect a Republican government that in turn does absolutely nothing for eight years but kill and engorge itself economically.)

Don't get me wrong, her performance is not funny nor edifying. I think the only thing Matthews did correctly in his interview (sic) with her was to repeatedly address the fact that she's selling books. (Begs the question, why he interviewed her.)

She is also selling a look: from the hair to the sunglasses to the cocktail dress to her physique and attitude, she performs a rebuke to anything "liberal" as well as "pussy" conservative. This is the old conservative pep rally call: don't be a pussy; capitalism isn't for pussies.

She has taken a rigid masculine rhetoric founded in white power ideology and made it her voice. Hence, she is often referred to as a man. After all, look at her adam's apple. She's certainly grotesque but nothing that she says is anything new. Hate Speech has always sold good and services for a nifty profit.

I don't get why people are looking beyond the rhetoric for a point worth debating. That's what confuses me.

I also don't quite understand Coulter's use of adolescent women as fans trained to laugh at anything she says. Matthews actually scolded them for laughing at one point. But what's that about?

the point (none / 0) (#10)
by chemoelectric on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 12:56:14 PM EST

Seriously, Coulter has a trenchant point. That's why birthday hats fit her so well.

if you strip away the inflammatory (none / 0) (#11)
by cpinva on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 01:59:45 PM EST

"rhetoric" (and i use that term in its loosest possible definition), you find yourself confronted by a vast, empty space; the deep thoughts of AC. this isn't, and never has been, a great secret.

her only "point" is to make money, period. she does this by screeching the loudest, to her choir, working at an even lower (if that's possible) intellectual level than she. that's it, that's all there is, there ain't no mo'.

she's invited because she makes noise and buffs ratings. that's it. she adds nothing of substance to the collective discussion. she knows this, she doesn't care. that's why she can't be shamed or guilted.

truly, the best thing to do would be to just ignore her. in a perfect world, that's what would happen. in our world, shows needing a ratings boost will continue to have her on.

Funny (none / 0) (#13)
by squeaky on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 04:41:21 PM EST

I really do love it when your sense of humor comes out BTD.

Although I am not sure what you expect from Gregory other than BS. I am not at all surprised.

I thought I had immunity (none / 0) (#14)
by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 05:41:02 PM EST

to the Coulter after so much exposure. She hasn't said anything in ages that has even caused my nose to flare. I read in the interview though that feminists are really weak and pathetic. Someone stop this woman before she buys the farm and some feminist fresh from Iraq does a nasty number on nasty her noggin before gearing down from combat.

When you strip away the Inflammatory Rhetoric ... (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by Sailor on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 06:22:03 PM EST

... there's nothing left.

Normally her comments would be cause for a visit from the SS.

And normally her voter fraud would result in charges and trials.
But IOKIYAR!

Thufferin' thuchatath!, shhe's desthpicable!

p.s. MT, here is a fun Flash game about strange attractors.


Thx Sailor (none / 0) (#17)
by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 06:27:16 PM EST

Now I'm losing the computer to the seven year old for awhile because he saw it ;).


: OT (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by Sailor on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 06:33:13 PM EST

sorry about that ... but no good deed goes unpunished;-)