They Live! The "Sell Out On Choice" Dems Come Back

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Other Politics
Posted on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 11:02:12 AM EST
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I thought after 2006, the species would have become extinct, but the "Sell Out on Choice" Dems still chasing those elusive "values voters" live! Paul Waldman has the best fisking of this ridiculous Times Op-Ed by Melinda Hennenberger, who argues, I think, that Dems should drop their pro-choice position, for political reasons apparently.

But I loved this part for its irony:

What would it take to win them back? Respect, for starters — and not only on the night of the candidate forum on faith. As it turns out, you cannot call people extremists and expect them to vote for you. . . .

Us "fringe," "idiot liberals" get that point very well. Drop a line to Rep. David Obey and all the others attacking the Dem base for being angry about not ending the Iraq war on that one Melinda.

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Well, who are the wingnuts going to vote for? (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by RustedView on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 11:20:08 AM EST

BTD,
I just have to shake my head at you. I mean, even the anti-choice, uber-paternalistic right wing knows the Republicans are going to lose in 2008. Hennenberger just wants to make sure that those dead-fetus-photo carrying, women-harassing, clinic bombing, doctor assassinating compassionate conservative value-voters have someone in office who supports their anti-choice position.

Can you fault her for wanting compassion to pervade the Democratic party?

Saw that op-ed this morning (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by andgarden on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 11:47:08 AM EST

it did NOT make good breakfast reading. The urge to reach through the page and shake my fist was strong.

Just more proof! (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by JHFarr on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 11:54:09 AM EST

We should let the Democrats die. Working on behalf of Dems is idiotic in the current context. There IS no progressive party to vote for, and the Democrats will never become one. Sooner than later, the corporate authoritarian death state will collapse of its own accord, taking all the quislings & co-dependents with it, and the surviving members of the next generation will have a chance to start anew. Forget "countries" and borders, though -- I'm talking about a whole new world.

I am totally calm and at one with the above judgement, and it has made my daily life INFINITELY more harmonious.

Down to four or five blogs daily now. Life is good.

: I'm down to three or four a day (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 02:05:03 PM EST

Much Much Much more quality of life! I think we are going to have to reincarnate the dirty hippy no job making love growing our own medicinal all day loser. I want to contemplate Bifurcations and this chaos theory some more, I think it's important. Just think, no job ...we could all get thin again! Running around over half naked, we won't need any of those Walmart clothes. No income.......no taxes and just wait till you see what I can do to your property values ;) Yeah, we'll just see if they really want to take away my birth control won't we? My family is notoriously fertile, I could breed like a virus. Let's start today!

in sheep's clothing (none / 0) (#4)
by dagzine on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 12:53:38 PM EST

I dig what you're saying...but how about her reliance upon the binary thinking she implies harms democrats...you know, that it's democrats faults that people think republicans are the "party of the faithful."

Personally, I agree with the intent of the op-ed piece. I just find the logic all garbled--too many weird implications.

btw, her name is Melinda Henneberger. I'd certainly hope we could proofread and edit more carefully.

: Thanks for the correction (none / 0) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 12:55:46 PM EST

You agree with the intent of the piece you say? What did you see as the intent? I saw it as looking for Dems to abandon their pro-choice position. What do you think it was?

Pandering to them doesn't work (none / 0) (#7)
by Madison Guy on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 04:57:40 PM EST

I heard Melinda Henneberger on Wisconsin Public Radio the other day. She argued her point well, but she's wrong. She doesn't understand the far right. Pandering to some mythical middle is what leads to things like the appearance of an extremist like Bill Donohue on the Today Show this morning, being treated with respect and deference by David Gregory.

Bill Donohue started the "grassroots" outcry of the "faithful" in the right blogosphere that swiftblogged Amanda Marcotte and Melissa McEwan right out of the John Edwards campaign, for words they wrote on their blogs that weren't that different from what a comic like Robin Williams might say. I like Edwards, but maybe if he had stood up against Donohue more forcefully, Donohue wouldn't have been on the Today Show this morning attacking Robin Williams for his alleged anti-Catholic bigotry. Deja vu all over again.