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Republicans Vote Not to Vote on Gonzales

Number of senators favoring an up-or-down vote on a resolution expressing no confidence in Alberto Gonzales: 53.

Number who didn't want the question to come to a vote: 38.

Guess which party opposed an up-or-down vote on the no confidence resolution?

Republicans did not defend him, but most voted against moving the resolution ahead.

The only Republicans who voted to end debate were [corrected] Coleman, Collins, Specter, Sununu, Hagel, Snowe, and Smith. Joining the Republicans was the Party of One, Joe "bomb bomb bomb, bomb Iran" Lieberman.

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    Well point me to hell and hand me a hockey stick (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Ellie on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 06:34:56 PM EST
    Trent Lott and I agree on something:

    The 53-38 vote to move the resolution to full debate fell seven short of the 60 required. In bringing the matter up, Democrats dared Republicans to vote their true feelings about an attorney general who has alienated even the White House's strongest defenders by bungling the firings of federal prosecutors and claiming not to recall the details. [...]

    "This is a nonbinding, irrelevant resolution proving what? Nothing," Lott said.

    Lini is to: GOP blocks Gonzales no-confidence vote (AP Kellman - 06/11/2007)


    surprise? (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by wg on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 07:49:11 PM EST
    We need to stay philosophical about this. True Gonzales continues to be a major disgrace as the AG and given the importance of his department his resignation remains as much in the best interest of this country as was the resignation of Rumsfeld.  

    But if we can take another year or so of George presidenting over this country we should be able to take Alberto however unpalatable either option is. The country will survive, it's institutions badly damaged, its image in the tatters, same with our sense of self-worth as a nation, but the country will survive.

    ---

    Still the fact that Alberto managed to survive is surprising. For two reasons.

    First, it should have had dawn on George by now that people are not out to get him. Rumsfeld had to go not because he was a convenient, substitute anti-Bush target but because he was a total disaster in DoD. Same thing with Alberto. There is nothing anti-Bush here, simply having this "torture OK, habeas-corpus, warrants optional" legal shyster  and political hack totally incapable of basic honesty as our Attorney General is grossly demeaning to this country. People, dear George, only go after the most unacceptable, damaging members of your administration. Nobody is trying to force Condi out, however borderline Secretary of State she is.  Same thing with all other members of your administration, including even that paragon of total incompetence Karen Hughes. Keep them as long as you like, George. But Alberto? Oh please!

    Secondly, it appears that nobody really thinks Gonzales is acceptable (except of George of course, but given his standards no surprise here).

    The reason the vote was only 53-38 was because some senators thought expressing the lack of confidence in any member of the administration seriously undermines the basic constitutional order of things in this country.  

    That's patently going too far.

    Bush should indeed be able to keep whomever he wants regardless of anything  but if YOU think Gonzales is unacceptable or you don't have basic confidence in his ability to run the DoJ constitutionally, as more than 60 of you do, it is your RESPONSIBILITY to voice it and a vote of non-confidence is the best and in fact the only meaningful vehicle for it.

    Shame on you if you didn't.

    meaningless (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by wg on Wed Jun 13, 2007 at 01:45:20 AM EST
    A lot of people keep repeating that Gonzales' vote was a meaningless exercise, an empty gesture so to speak. I'm sorry but that makes no sense.

    If we assume that Bush's right to people of his choice (after they've been approved by the Senate of course) is sacrosanct in our system of government, then a vote of no-confidence is the only meaningful way  for the legislature to express its lack of confidence in any particular member of administration without encroaching on that  right in the first place.  

    They seem to be saying in effect that legislature has no right to voice its sense of uneasiness about any member of any administration and that is a rather dangerous notion for any democratic society.  

    The overall health of the system depends on Senate not only having an obligation to consent to future presidential appointments based upon its sense of particular person fitness for the office, but also and irreducibly so on having a duty to monitor if the office holder proves himself to be fit while in the office and to voice its objections if it senses he is not.

    Yes, what happened . . . (none / 0) (#2)
    by naschkatze on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 06:53:25 PM EST
    . . . to the Republican love for up-or-down votes?

    More republicans than that (none / 0) (#3)
    by OCD on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 07:13:15 PM EST
    Coleman, Collins, and Snowe also votes for cloture.

    Remind me Again... (none / 0) (#5)
    by jarober on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 08:08:42 PM EST
    We don't have a Parliamentary system - maybe someone should inform Harry Reid.

    On the other hand, if he's wasting time on this kind of nonsense, at least he's not doing any real damage.

    Time for a vote OF Confidence (none / 0) (#6)
    by Key on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 08:54:15 PM EST
    Isn't it time that they offer a vote OF confidence?  That way, when the repubs don't let the vote come to the floor, the dems can say, "The Republicans clearly have no confidence in the AG.  They refused to allow a vote in support of the AG come up."

    It's a win-win for the Dems.