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11 GOP Congresspersons Lecture Bush on Iraq

Update [2007-5-9 23:42:19 by Big Tent Democrat]: John Boehner attended the meeting but did not talk. The attendees included Boehner, Dent, Kirk, Tom Davis, Ray LaHood, Ann Emerson, Gerlach of PA and Walsh of NY. All in tough districts, some of which barely survived in last year's election. This is a Rove operation. You can smell it.

'You have no credibility on Iraq Mr. President.'

'My district is ready for defeat.'

-GOP Congresspersons in meeting with President Bush Tuesday.

MSNBC reports that 11 GOP Congresspersons met with the President and told him they are not happy with the Iraq Debacle. They say General Petraeus must tell them things are getting better. Presumably in September.

We'll see if this means anything. I do not think it means much of anything personally. These are 11 GOP Congresspersons who are probably facing tough races and want some cover. 11, 20, or even 30 GOP defections won't overcome a veto.

For this to matter, you have to believe Bush will listen to these folks. I do not. I think this is, as Craig Crawford describes it, more rope a dope:

While some Republican lawmakers seem sincere in calling for a quality check in September for President George W. Bush’s war surge, there is a familiar pattern here. Back in December, when Bush announced his new Iraq strategy, his GOP war supporters — and even the White House itself — had pinpointed this summer as the soft deadline for determining whether it is working. But early last month the president announced that the troop boost would not even be completed until June, thus buying a few more months. . . .

This is more of the same imo.

Update [2007-5-9 22:30:55 by Big Tent Democrat]: Let me be clear. I hope this means something but I do not think it does.

Here's why: Petraeus is already scheduled to report progress in September. These GOP Congrescritters are on tough districts no doubt and need to get away from Bush. Now they can follow Petraeus instead.

This was leaked. Rove must have given the Ok sign for that. Otherwise there would be hell to pay.

I believe this is rope-a-dope. Hopefully I am wrong.

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    Republicans Want Someone With Crediblilty (5.00 / 4) (#1)
    by MO Blue on Wed May 09, 2007 at 08:01:28 PM EST
    to sell the war rather than the Liar In Chief.

    They want to APPEAR like they are distancing themselves from Bush and the Iraq debacle to help them keep their seats. If Republican Congresscritters want CREDIBILITY, let them refuse to fund the continued occupation or override Bush's veto on the Iraq supplemental this month and not sometime down the road.  IIRC TWO House Republicans voted to override Bush's veto on the last supplemental. Give us votes not empty talk Republicans.

    I have an idea (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Freewill on Wed May 09, 2007 at 08:44:24 PM EST
    Let's send the Iraqi government officials vacation brochures. Ole Dickey is over there threatening them not to take a vacation or else. Well...

    I hear Disney World is having its 1/2 off special for all Iraqis during the months of July and August.

    great idea except (none / 0) (#6)
    by conchita on Wed May 09, 2007 at 10:32:12 PM EST
    ten to one they'd end up on no fly lists.

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    You have a good point. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Freewill on Wed May 09, 2007 at 11:02:11 PM EST
    I really thought the No-Fly lists were only comprised of Old Ladies, Infants, and people who disagree with Bush and his Minions ideology.

    psst... Conchita, don't tell anyone this or the All-Seeing eye my intercept this secret plan fashioned by King Bush. They wanted the Iraqi leaders to go on vacation for two months because it's easier to steal the oil and plant weapons of mass destruction when all the leaders are away. As they always say, "When the cat's away, the Rats will play!"

    In all seriousness, the 2 month planned vacation by the Iraqi leaders might be their attempt at getting us out of their country. After watching Bush for the past 7 years I would say anything is plausible.


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    you forgot ted kennedy (none / 0) (#12)
    by conchita on Thu May 10, 2007 at 12:28:04 AM EST
    and yes i would agree with you that this could be a move towards getting us out.  i was thinking that it was more about the hydrocarbon law, but why not go for broke?!

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    i agree (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by profmarcus on Wed May 09, 2007 at 08:46:27 PM EST
    Brian, the Republican congressman then went on to say, "The word about the war and its progress cannot come from the White House or even you, Mr. President. There is no longer any credibility. It has to come from Gen. Petraeus."

    well,that's pretty strong stuff, but, i'm sorry to tell you, brian... general petraeus, having been selected specifically for his willingness to be a white house sock puppet, doesn't have any credibility either...

    attending the meeting...

       The group of Republicans was led by Reps. Mark Kirk (R-IL) and Charlie Dent (R-PA), and the meeting included Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Karl Rove, and Tony Snow.

    it just goes to show you where bush's head is at that, even in a meeting where he is being aggressively confronted by members of his own party on his increasingly disastrous course in iraq, his chief political advisor is in attendance...

    And, yes, I DO take it personally

    We need to keep the (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by littafi on Wed May 09, 2007 at 09:23:25 PM EST
    pressure on.  This is just the beginning.  As polls show a coming debacle for Republican officeholders, they will try to save their asses.  

    This means either adopting Reid-Feingold or something similar, or sending the same bill Bush vetoed back.  But no concessions.

    No more blood for Bush.

    As usual, excellent stuff, BTD.

    Hmm (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Sailor on Wed May 09, 2007 at 10:47:02 PM EST
    they must be the only 11 rethugs not facing indictment.

    yet (none / 0) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed May 09, 2007 at 10:51:46 PM EST
    Heh.

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    LMAO! (none / 0) (#11)
    by Freewill on Wed May 09, 2007 at 11:04:36 PM EST
    Bravo!

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    There's no doubt this was a Rove op: (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by scribe on Thu May 10, 2007 at 08:37:33 AM EST
    1.  They put it out through Russert - who we know the WH has considered a reliable tool for getting their message out unfiltered.  Viz., the sworn testimony of Cathie Martin in the Scooter Libby case.  
    Good ol' Russ' is in need of some reputational rehab, so why not give him a scoop?  
    But, to be fair, I wonder how his reporting this scoop squares with his general rule, also brought out in sworn testimony, of "everything off the record unless the source tells him it is on the record"?
    Just saying.

    2.  Charlie Dent doesn't lead a godda*n thing. He and his re-elect campaigns in 04 and 06 welded themselves to Bushie and his war, and made big hay out of how much he supported the Preznit.  A friend knew him in high school. He was a stupid twit of a tool then, and still is now.  There's a German word for folks like him - "musterknabe".  While the dictionary translates it as "prig", that's only in the sense of he's the guy who sucks up to the powers that be by being the boy ("knabe") who's always spending all his time being a perfect model for inspection (in formation or by the teacher)("muster"). It's how he is when dealing with the Admin.

    3.  They all can derive some benefit from seeiming independence.
    Every one of these 11, with the possible exception of Davis (VA), is on Rover's list of Republican seats vulnerable in 2008.  We know that from the Lurita Davis briefing slides from that "help our people" briefing "on the political landscape" GSA management got.  Davis has aspirations to the Va. Senate seat, so he might seek to run on some independence from Bushie.  Of course, someone should re-run his appearance with Tweety back earlier this year, which Crooks & Liars captured.  You remember - it was the one in which he was saying that Congress should do exactly what the President tells them to do.  Or, his shilling in the recent Waxman hearings on Plame when he spent all his time trying to - I dunno - disprove that the head of the CIA said Plame was covert.  He's a reliable admin talk-hole.  But, for each of these, they will be able to generate some home-town good press, where reporters don't bother to look too hard.

    4.  The WH has failed to find a war czar.  So, by default, they've palmed it off onto Petraeus.  But, fer sher, Bushie's washed his hands of this debacle.

    5.  Q.  Since when does the civilian leadership take direction from the military?  
    A.  In Bushworld, it does.

    6.  This is just a reflection of the WH (and particularly Bush's and Rover's) "utter contempt for Congress". Not my quote - that's from Scarborough in his tryout for the Imus slot on MSNBC this AM.  He was remarking on the difference between the Clinton admin and the current, that Clinton recognized Congress had its role and he his, while Bush and Rove have only contempt for Congress.  Bushie's just using these folks to take the heat.

    7.  We all already know what Petraeus' report come September will say.  Shoot, I think it's already been written, or at least a discussion draft.

    Rope a dope (none / 0) (#2)
    by Donna Z on Wed May 09, 2007 at 08:42:48 PM EST
    That reminds me...Evan Bayh and Olympia Snowe were on the NewsHour this evening. Apparently they've written a new funding proposal. I tried to follow what they were selling, but to be honest, I missed most of it. Does anyone know what those two are up to?

    Remembering the selling of lunatic judges, I've got a bad feeling about this.

    The WHouse will not change course, they're goal is only to seem reasonable while they gold onto power.

    Or maybe not (none / 0) (#9)
    by Alien Abductee on Wed May 09, 2007 at 10:55:52 PM EST
    Breaking from Aravosis:

    BREAKING: Conservative Dems expected to vote with GOP to give Bush unfettered blank check on Iraq tomorrow  

    I just heard from an impeccable source that there is serious concern on the Hill that conservative Democrats in the House will vote with the Republicans to strip any and all restrictions from the Iraq supplemental tomorrow, effectively giving Bush all the money he wants with no restrictions and no effort to hold either him or the Iraq government accountable for anything....

    Yes, while the Republican leaders of the House and Senate are publicly claiming that they won't give Bush a blank check, they're maneuvering behind the scenes to do just that. And while Republican members of Congress are supposedly laying down the law for Bush in private meetings, on the House floor they're going to give Bush everything he wants and needs to continue the war indefinitely.
    ...



    Agreed, CYA for the Reps (none / 0) (#14)
    by Oliver W Holmes the 3rd on Thu May 10, 2007 at 09:27:19 AM EST
    If they truly cared about the matter, it would have stayed private.  The fact it was "leaked" to MSNBC (vs. faux) tends to lend credability.  However the 11 are seeking cover for 11/08.  Smirky doesn't care about 11 or 30 as discussed herein.  But the 11 can now tell their constituents "I stood up to the president" re: the Iraqi occupation.  What a bunch of crap.  (ok to use that, saw the comment to MSOC and aware of her sailor speak and this sites rules:)