After 4 years of illegal, violent Occupation the post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Iraq total ONE MILLION (UN Population Division and medical literature data). Taken together with 1.7 million excess deaths in the 1990-2003 Sanctions War (UN Population Division) and 3.7 million Iraqi refugees (UNHCR), this constitutes an Iraqi Genocide (as defined by the UN Genocide Convention) and an Iraqi Holocaust in comparison with the WW2 Jewish Holocaust (5-6 million victims). The Iraqi under-5 infant deaths (1990-2007) now total 1.8 million, 90% having been avoidable and due to Western war crimes. Total Iraqi excess deaths (1990-2007) total 2.7 million. The post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Afghanistan now total 2.2 million
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Three quarters of the people of Occupied Iraq and Occupied Afghanistan are Women and Children.

The Bush War on Terror is in horrible reality a cowardly War on Women and Children, a War on Asian Women and Children and a War on Muslim Women and Children.

To suggest this war has been anything but murderous from the Iraqi population (the elderly and children especially) is simply unbelievable.  What do you think war is, sonny?  Have you never been shot at, had a gun pointed at you, have you never thought you were about to die a horrible death?  Have you never been near a major explosion?  Have you never survived the trauma of inflicted violence?  Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, was a largely secular nation, had no relationshiip with Al Qeada, and you still can't do anything but criticize the left for trying to take into account something our government doesn't even think worth of concern --Iraqi deaths.  We don't count them.  We don't care.  Be a man, stand up, and accept the truth that your country does not think the deaths of innocent Iraqis are worth keeping track of.  And therefore what we know of those deaths comes from outside sources, sources you  

But denial is denial, and it's a strong thing.  Powerful.  It's kept you from enlisting and fighting in this war which you're perfectly happy to defend and have others fight for you, when you are young and able and are only stopped by the truth -- that you are afraid and know it is not worth risking your life for.

Period.

Talk about school and how you just have so many other important things to do, go ahead, and understand it renders as hypocritical noise all you say on this topic.  

Go fight.  Then come back and talk.  As it is now, you seem far too green and inexperienced in the ugliness of life.  Some people have the imagination to be wise without the direct experience.  You don't have that game.

Go get it.  Enlist, suit up, and take the battlefield.  We have enough lawyers.  But my little bro sure needs some help in the Marines.

What your money can buy

$15 will purchase enough vaccine to immunize 10 Iraqi children against measles, mumps and rubella.

$109 will provide 10 families with Basic Family Water kits that contain water purification and sanitation supplies.

$250 will purchase an emergency health kit that contains basic drugs, medical supplies and equipment for 1,000 Iraqis for 3 months.

Just one post, one thread on one day and the anti-war Left couldn't leave it alone.

Couldn't hand A look at hand B and say,"Brother, you are killing the children I am counting."

No, the Iraqi story always begins with the invasion and if any there is to be any other discussion it must be of the Iraq-Iran war, or to note that Iraq was the cradle of civilization as if 3,000 years or so has wrought no changes.

It is often noted that "Saddam was a secular killer" in tones that remind me of how Mussolini "made the trains run on time." No one mentions the Kurds, the people in the delta, and just the garden variety killings by Saddam.

And no one dare note that it was the Oil For Food program that he stole from??

Can we say that war kills? Can we say that we invaded, but how many Iraqis have been killed by other Iraqis?? Why is this?? Almost all of you say the war is over and that we must leave because what we have is a civil war.

And who is fighting the war? Isn't it Iraqi against Iraqi with some Iranians and Syrians thrown in for good measure?? And what drives the war?? Isn't it in fact not a civil war but a war between a somewhat secular group, the Baathists against radical Moslem Shia and even (perhaps) more radical al-Qaeda??

I can do nothing for those in the grave, but by trying to establish a stable government that will end the killing I can look in the mirror and say, "I try."

It is the least we can do for those killed in Iraq by other Iraqis, and the other millions through out the ME in this convulsion of religion and change.

But like the Republican isolationists of the 30's, you let your hatred of the President blind you to what is happening and your libertarian leanings lead you to believe that you can run home and hide from the world. But, just as the Chamberlains of the Repubs, France and the real one in England, your desire for "peace" is meaningless to those who want power. And like them you are dithering, complaining while the cancer grows.

The Democrats I grew up with were Liberals. Wilson, FDR, Truman and Kennedy were demi-Gods. You no more resemble them than night resembles day.

An Army infantry officer serving in Iraq writes to offer a deal to the New York Times in connection with the article by David Carr that John writes about immediately below:

"I'd like to make the New York Times a deal. I'll consent to them publishing my picture in the event I'm wounded when they start publishing pictures of the bureaucrats who leak details about NSA Surveillance, the Swift bank monitoring program, etc., so that the public can evaluate and better understand the whole of those stories as well.

Right...I didn't think so..."

Like I did.

ppj always attacks folks with his 'did you serve' crap.

I got a question: when ppj claims to have '10 years in naval aviation' does that mean he was in the military for 10 years? I call BS.