Reid To Bring Reid-Feingold Amendment To Floor

By Big Tent Democrat, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Mon May 14, 2007 at 04:44:11 PM EST
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This is a big deal:

Harry Reid just spoke on the Senate floor, revealing that he'll allow a vote this week on the Feingold-Reid amendment, which would cut off funding for the war by March 31, 2008.
This is a big deal for war opponents -- it's the first vote in the Senate on a measure of this kind. "This is a vote that folks have been clamoring for for some time now," enthuses a staffer who works for a Senator favoring the approach.
The staffer added that while the measure faces an uphill struggle, a vote on it will move the parameters of the debate and force Senators into a straight up-or-down vote on the war -- just as last week's House vote on Dem Rep. James McGovern's proposal to end the war did.

Any and all supporters of ending the Iraq Debacle by the only means possible, by NOT funding it after a date certain, MUST urge a Yes vote for Reid Feingold. This is the framework that can end the war.

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YES!!!!! (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by andgarden on Mon May 14, 2007 at 05:03:55 PM EST

Well, I'm going to bug Bob Casey about this.

Great news. (5.00 / 3) (#2)
by oculus on Mon May 14, 2007 at 05:17:37 PM EST

As we know from reading your posts, this is no a funding bill, so it does not need to originate in the House. But, will it be voted on by both houses?

The McGovern bill was a good approximation (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon May 14, 2007 at 05:27:09 PM EST

though more complicated than necessary.


No one seriously expects it to pass (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by andgarden on Mon May 14, 2007 at 05:30:34 PM EST

we just want to establish that we have a "majority of the majority," as with the McGovern bill.


This is actually menaningful momentum (5.00 / 3) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon May 14, 2007 at 05:37:17 PM EST

Momentum of Dems to endorse the Reid-Feingold/McGovernm NOT funding framework.

The silly Obama 16 votes (ignoring the 88 House GOP votes needed BTW) and the send it back silliness from Edwards is all just psoturing.

THIS is how the Debacle will end.


: The Obama "strategy" (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by andgarden on Mon May 14, 2007 at 05:45:44 PM EST

is most infuriating. I believe that he should know better.

: Note to Jim: (none / 0) (#11)
by Militarytracy on Mon May 14, 2007 at 07:22:35 PM EST

BTD is my shrink. He makes laundry and dishes possible, and two homemade birthday cakes for my husband last week because we weren't sure which chocolate he would like better!

Hope Hillary Clinton sees the light and does (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by oculus on Mon May 14, 2007 at 05:47:33 PM EST

the right thing.

: If she doesn't I can always hate her forever (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by Militarytracy on Mon May 14, 2007 at 07:12:43 PM EST

and follow her around with a bunch of other military family members for the rest of her career.

cut it off by (5.00 / 1) (#8)
by cpinva on Mon May 14, 2007 at 06:34:02 PM EST

sept. 30, 2007, the end of the current fiscal year. why wait until march 2008?

this is something i have yet to figure out: what is rationale for giving bush until march 2008? cut it off at the knees at the end of the fiscal year. what's going to happen in the next few months, that can't happen between now and sept. 30th?

I think that gives him time (none / 0) (#10)
by Militarytracy on Mon May 14, 2007 at 07:16:10 PM EST

to seek U.N. help to avoid a genocide and pull our troops back while other troops move in, if he should decide to seek some kind of vaguely functional solution which he never will but you try to give him the opportunity.


tracy, i don't mean to be difficult (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by cpinva on Mon May 14, 2007 at 11:01:46 PM EST

but that concept has as much substance as a house built on sand. if he hasn't done it by now, he isn't going to.

cut it off at 9-30-2007, maybe save some lives in the process. giving him another 6 months just gives him 6 more months of wasted time, energy, lives and resources.

this is vietnam, re-visited. worse yet, it's vietnam, with vietnam as a template. being stupid isn't a crime, being stupid and causing needless deaths is.

it's time the adults took a stand, and smacked the "would-be boy king george" upside the head, and sent him to his room.


: You aren't being difficult (none / 0) (#15)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 15, 2007 at 09:59:36 AM EST

I agree with you, I think everybody is attempting to not give Bush any way to blame them for a failed Iraq.

mcjoan's later post includes dodd's statement (none / 0) (#12)
by conchita on Mon May 14, 2007 at 09:27:46 PM EST

"We should have a straight up or down vote on Feingold-Reid - not as an amendment to a water bill or any other bill. This is the most important Senate debate since the original vote to authorize the war. This simply cannot be the occasion for hiding behind procedural tactics. That is why I am calling on all my other colleagues running for President to state clearly where they stand on this important legislation by joining me as a co-sponsor of Feingold-Reid and stating how they would vote on the bill."

she also writes that the vote will happen tomorrow probably as an amendment to the water resources development act. this will be interesting.

More Important: a vote on the House bill (none / 0) (#14)
by fairleft on Tue May 15, 2007 at 01:15:53 AM EST

that passed, or something similar. That bill would have a good chance of forcing us out of Iraq by the end of this year.

Screw 2008, bring 'em home by Christmas 2007.

I think the vote on Reid-Feingold may be part of a backroom deal to disappear the fantastic 'short-leash' House bill and replace it with more or less the terrible long-term bill Bush just vetoed.