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100 Pardons Coming

Only two short days remain until all traces of Donald Trump and his family and entourage will be gone from the White House. What is his game plan for the end of the most mocked and despised administration in history?

Most major news outlets are predicting 100 pardons.

We all expect it to include Rudy Giuliani and Trump's children -- unless Jared and Ivanka are arrogant enough to reject the idea because they are convinced they are not in jeopardy and don't need one.

I expect to see Steve Bannon on the list. If it later turns out that the funding for luring ultra right-wingers to D.C. disguised as Donald Trump supporters to attack the capitol was provided by Bannon, Trump will look like an even bigger as* for pardoning him.

I also think there will be a lot of pardoning of uber-rich folks, or relatives of uber-rich folks. Trump will want to hit them up for money when he's ready to make his comeback.

I don't think Trump is selling pardons, but those close to him sure seem suspect, according to the New York Times.

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    I am holding my breath (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 18, 2021 at 09:34:50 PM EST
    for one very deserving client who has a chance to make The Final List. Utterly messed up "system" (no system), but nevertheless she has a chance.

    Here's to You Client... (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:10:00 AM EST
     ...making the cut.

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    So (none / 0) (#52)
    by coast on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 07:44:22 AM EST
    Did your client get the pardon?  Hope so.

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    Countdown clock (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 09:19:56 AM EST
    Just enough (5.00 / 4) (#12)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:38:47 AM EST
    time for Trump to release his health care plan.  And, for Malaria to present her immigration record at her previously announced press conference.   Too late on taxes, though. Still under audit.  And, no infrastructure week,  just infrastructure day..

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    This made me laugh and want to throw up. (none / 0) (#7)
    by vml68 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:32:21 AM EST
    Eeeeuuuuuu (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:58:20 AM EST
    Maybe... (none / 0) (#11)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:35:45 AM EST
    ...you got in bed with Trump because you felt obligated after going to his room.

    But I did not, and I am not waiting for the sweaty fatso to finish.  I never even returned his call much less entertained the idea of having an affair with Donald Trump.

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    No, I did not feel obligated because I did not (none / 0) (#18)
    by vml68 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 02:02:00 PM EST
    choose to go to his room.
    But, that did not stop most of us from getting f*@ked (whether psychologically, financially, or by literally losing a life) by Tr*mp because a minority made the choice for us.
    So, yes, I am waiting for him to "finish". I won't breathe easy till noon tomorrow.

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    Here's a Towel (none / 0) (#31)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:19:30 PM EST
    You know why.

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    So many troubling things about this (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:01:29 AM EST
    : "Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden's presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias."

    link

    How About Removing Them... (5.00 / 3) (#10)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:22:51 AM EST
     ...from the Armed Services ?

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    That is going to happen (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:47:34 AM EST
    or so they say.   I think that alone is a bit of a creepy thought.  The military going name by name to check their outside affiliations.   What will their discharge say?

    I understand why it's needed   And I don't disagree.  I just think it's a very bad sign.  And it can't end well.

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    Given the possible danger to (none / 0) (#23)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:09:47 PM EST
    Biden and Harris, especially after 1/6, they have to do it.
    I don't like it either, but the safety of the new President and Vice President is of utmost importance.
    From what I've read, they also replaced a bunch of Biden's Secret Service with S.S. people who have worked with him previously.

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    According to CNN (none / 0) (#19)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 02:08:16 PM EST
    the count is up to 12 now.  

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    Georgia certified (5.00 / 3) (#14)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:58:51 AM EST
    elections of Rev Warnock and Jon Ossoff as new US senators.  Can be swore in tomorrow.  

    Champagne is on ice.

    Heard that Vice President Harris (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 12:48:23 PM EST
    Will be swearing them in. That sounds so nice...Vice President Kamala Harris.

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    And, her (none / 0) (#17)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 01:15:29 PM EST
    Senate replacement, Alex Padilla.

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    And Supreme Court (none / 0) (#22)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:04:15 PM EST
    Justice Sonia Sotomayor will be swearing in Kamala Harris as Vice President.
    Good. I like that.

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    This is a couple (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 02:44:43 PM EST
    of days early. I guess GA decided why delay the inevitable and just move on.

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    Every time I hear a bobble head (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 07:37:00 AM EST
    waxing rhapsodic about "we" all must now talk to the 30% who don't think Biden won I wish I could say to them,  YOU talk to them, OK?

    If they ever did, which they clearly have never done, they would know what I know which is talking to these people is like peeing into the wind.  

    You can not talk to them.  You can not reason with them.  Yes, they have been lied to but they believe the lies because they want to not because they are fooled.

    They can not be brought around by reason.   They are the same people who believed Obama was foreign terrorist in waiting.  (They never really believed that).  They believe Democrats are cannibal pedophiles.  How do you begin a conversation with someone who thinks you are a cannibal pedophile?  Or at the very least you support them politically.

    No talking.  No coddling.  No tolerating.  There is only one thing we can do for these people.  Beat them.  Beat them back.  Beat them over and over and over.  Marginalize them and ignore them.  

    F'ck talking to them and everyone who thinks it we should.

    Latest word is (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 18, 2021 at 04:20:14 PM EST
    he will not pardon himself or his children.  

    If that's true, and who knows, I think it's not unthinkable he will leave the country.   Flee! Flee for his life.

    No plan (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 18, 2021 at 04:22:12 PM EST
    I have been reading (none / 0) (#3)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jan 18, 2021 at 07:01:04 PM EST
    that it seems nowhere in the US wants them. Ivanaka and Jared are already being shunned in their new Florida neighborhood and denied a membership at the club associated with the neighborhood.

    It seems like Trump is still popular in the Dakotas. Maybe they can do their grifting from a dude ranch.

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    Tina Brown (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:48:03 PM EST
    "There is a myth around that Jared and Ivanka will be rejected socially. The rich are never rejected -- until they go to prison or lose their money."

    -- Tina Brown, quoted by Town & Country.



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    I think (none / 0) (#50)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 05:49:27 AM EST
    a lot of these people now know there never was any money. It was all an illusion. I guess we shall see how it all plays out but it seems since Trump's divorce from Ivana he hasn't been part of NY society.

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    MyPillow (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 01:00:13 PM EST
    will run for elective office in `22.

    The My Pillow (none / 0) (#21)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:02:30 PM EST
    guy can take every one of his pillows and stuff them........
    "where the sun don't shine."

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    My Pillow pillows (none / 0) (#24)
    by fishcamp on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:14:04 PM EST
    are terrible too, I've heard from my Republican friends.

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    I think (none / 0) (#25)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:21:36 PM EST
    That they're basically just chopped up foam, aren't they?

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    Bad for biz (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:49:51 PM EST
    "The founder of MyPillow, a vocal and in the past few weeks very visible supporter of President Trump, says a backlash against the company has begun after a mob stormed the U.S. Capitol this month," the AP reports.

    "Mike Lindell, the company CEO and also the face of the brand, said major retailers like Bed Bath & Beyond and Kohl's have dropped his products recently."



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    I hope that (none / 0) (#26)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:35:39 PM EST
    At least some of the people he pardons can be brought up on state charges.
    And I hope that they all have trouble getting new jobs.  
    Maybe they can go door to door selling My Pillows.
    Meanwhile, Mr. Zorba and I will be celebrating the new administration with champagne, oysters, and steamed shrimp.

    Funny that I never noticed (none / 0) (#27)
    by desertswine on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 04:33:02 PM EST
    how beautiful the Capitol dome was before.

    The flags (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 04:52:15 PM EST
    on the mall is just beautiful. I understand Amy Klobuchar has been heading up the inauguration committee. She really has done a great job.

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    The ceremony that Biden (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:15:50 PM EST
    just held for the people who perished from COVID was truly beautiful and moving.

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    It was. I almost wept. (none / 0) (#41)
    by desertswine on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:01:22 PM EST
    Nicole Wallace and (none / 0) (#42)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:20:56 PM EST
    Dr. Patel (?) were actually choking up while on air.

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    I just read (none / 0) (#36)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 06:22:16 PM EST
    that Fox News did not cover the ceremony that Biden held for those who perished from COVID. If true, that is really a shame. It was truly beautiful and it is necessary for the nation to mourn the hundreds of thousands who have died.

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    Faux News (none / 0) (#39)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 07:32:21 PM EST
    was reporting on the horde heading to the US now that we have open borders.

    /s


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    Isn't that special? (none / 0) (#43)
    by jondee on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:38:47 PM EST
    I've been noticing that Tucker Carlson's voice has virtually the same cadence as Dana Carvey's The Church Lady, especially when he gets a little excited and his voice goes up an octave.

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    Senator Hawley (none / 0) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 04:33:12 PM EST
    can't find the decency to keep his head down for a while--- he blocked rapid confirmation of President Biden's nomination of Alejandro Mayorkas  to the crucial post of Secretary of Homeland Security.

    Hawley is trying to (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:31:22 PM EST
    out Trump, Trump. Truly a scumbag.

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    Hmmmm (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 06:18:50 PM EST
    So, too, was Trump warned that pardons for Republican lawmakers who had sought them for their role in the Capitol insurrection would anger the very Senate Republicans who will determine his fate in an upcoming impeachment trial.

    link

    I was not aware any GOP lawmakers had sought a pardon

    When Are the Pardons COming... (none / 0) (#37)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 06:49:26 PM EST
    ...it's 7pm CST on the 19th and nothing.  So it's tomorrow before noon, whatever he does is going to outshine his departure.

    CNN just said (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 07:27:11 PM EST
    they could come very late tonight.  Not a great sign.

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    MSNBC says (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:09:28 PM EST
    Pardons any moment.  I guess they have been alerted.

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    Just read (none / 0) (#48)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:46:18 PM EST
    he said he is going to pardon scumbag Steve Bannon.

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    And TomDelay... (none / 0) (#54)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 08:33:52 AM EST
    ... the bug man that was my representative for years under GWB and Speaker of the House for a bit.  

    Reprehensible human being.  Convicted of money laundering and other financial crimes.

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    Can Trump Keep Pardons Under Seal? (none / 0) (#40)
    by RickyJim on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 07:58:58 PM EST
    Is it possible for him to keep them secret until some people he plans to pardon are actually indicted?  I assume somebody would advise him on what to do to prove they weren't backdated to before noon Jan. 20.  From his stand point, the longer he can keep unknown outrages secret, the better off he is.

    I don't think so (none / 0) (#44)
    by Peter G on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:57:25 PM EST
    Never heard of such a thing, and cannot think of a mechanism for doing it.

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    The Patriot Party (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 09:20:07 PM EST
    Good idea

    "President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House," the Wall Street Journal reports.

    "Mr. Trump discussed the matter with several aides and other people close to him last week... The president said he would want to call the new party the `Patriot Party.'"



    They're good at that (none / 0) (#47)
    by jondee on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:14:13 PM EST
    kind of manipulative, below-the-belt branding.

    How could you be against a Patriot Party? What are you, some kind of commie?

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    Just think of all the money Trump will (none / 0) (#49)
    by desertswine on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:54:02 PM EST
    have access to.  I'm sure he is.

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    Funny (none / 0) (#53)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 08:31:16 AM EST
    I forget, what party are 90% of the people here in?  Just sayin'.

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