Out of Iraq Blog Caucus or Idiot Liberals of the World Unite!

By Big Tent Democrat, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:18:50 PM EST
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As always, I speak for me only

In my previous post, I painted with too broad a brush. Two bloggers pointed out to me that they too reject the idea that the Left Blogs should refrain from critiquing the Dems on Iraq.

Corrente:

I read plenty of blogs that have no problems whatsoever criticizing the Democrats. This one, for example. I also find that there are plenty of people at larger communities who speak out about Democratic waffling or inaction, and they are not always shouted down. But it is an interesting point to raise, given the levels of Shrill that could be found Blogosphere-wide before the election.

Gun Toting Liberal:

If I have to say so myself, it takes courage to do what we’re doing here, and that says a LOT about our co-bloggers and co-authors here at The GTL and those few other sites out there (including TalkLeft, of course) who are willing to sacrifice a LOT of “linkie-luv” and inbound traffic from our fellow “lefty” bloggers out there by standing up for what’s right, or more accurately, what REALLY is “left”.

Ok, this seems the beginning of the makings of an Out of Iraq blog caucus. Anyone else game to join us?

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Out of Iraq Blog Caucus or Idiot Liberals of the World Unite! | 32 comments (32 topical)

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Some of us just comment. n/t (5.00 / 4) (#2)
by andgarden on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:29:28 PM EST

Give some love to those bloggers (5.00 / 5) (#4)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:30:34 PM EST

speaking out.

Corrente and Gun Toting Liberal to start.


: Noted. n/t (5.00 / 3) (#9)
by andgarden on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:39:24 PM EST

I have no pretensions to being an original thinker (5.00 / 5) (#27)
by Demi Moaned on Sun Mar 18, 2007 at 12:01:05 AM EST

Yes, I like to comment, mostly for three reasons:

to 'second the motion' on what seems to me an underappreciated point of view

to add context from my own readings/browsings

to take issue with a point that seems to me poorly reasoned or mie-emphasized

But I'm 100% behind the 'Out of Iraq' ideas being advocated here and by such people as McJoan at DailyKos. In fact, it was BTD's GBCW diary at DailyKos that inspired me to put this blog on my short list of daily reads.


Let me also give a shout out (5.00 / 10) (#3)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:29:52 PM EST

to BarbinMD and mcjoan at daily kos, our infiltrators against the the Big Blog Blackout on Iraq.

Don't let the Man hold you down!

cough (5.00 / 8) (#7)
by buhdydharma on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:38:21 PM EST

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/17/191230/668

heehee


Go get em! (5.00 / 4) (#10)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:41:55 PM EST

: Ain't been the same since you left.. (5.00 / 2) (#32)
by dkmich on Sun Mar 18, 2007 at 08:13:43 AM EST

And it hasn't been the same since Kos left. Thank god for macjoan, BarbinMd, Budhy and a few others. I never could understand the "don't criticize the Democrats" strategy. Souned too familiar to "America, Love it or Leave It". We all know what that means.

heh (5.00 / 7) (#6)
by Frederick Clarkson on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:35:49 PM EST

At Talk to Action, we criticize Dems whenever we feel the need. Our focus is the religous right and what to do about it, so what the Dems are up to -- or not -- on the war is off topic for the site.

However.

I am personaly with you on Out of Iraq, and I would guess that most of our front pagers would be as well.

I think that the Dems can do a whole hell of a lot better than non-binding resolutions and trust the president legislation.

Welcome to the fight (5.00 / 3) (#8)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:39:10 PM EST

in the words of Victor Lazslo . . .

Heh.


The other side would pay you much better. n/t (5.00 / 4) (#11)
by andgarden on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:43:23 PM EST

I came to Casablanca (5.00 / 3) (#12)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:46:32 PM EST

for the waters . . .


You were misinformed. . . (5.00 / 3) (#17)
by andgarden on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:53:09 PM EST

in Iraq there is only desert.


Well (5.00 / 3) (#20)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 10:01:52 PM EST

I am a drunkard . . .


: And a citizen of the world? (5.00 / 2) (#21)
by andgarden on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 10:09:43 PM EST

got an offer once (5.00 / 3) (#16)
by Frederick Clarkson on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:52:22 PM EST

but here I still am;-)


Where's tlh lib? (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:51:31 PM EST

Tell him that he is AWOL and needs to get back in the fight.

Well, now... (5.00 / 2) (#18)
by Maryscott OConnor on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:53:38 PM EST

So did I, I just haven't written anything lately to point to.

: )

: When you WRITE . . . (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:54:09 PM EST

then you get props . . .

Although I'm just one admin (5.00 / 6) (#23)
by Montereyan on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 10:13:43 PM EST

I'd like to think Blue House Diaries would happily join an Out of Iraq blog caucus.

Better to join together than hang separately...

Welcome (5.00 / 2) (#24)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 10:26:08 PM EST

to the Idiot Liberals Club.

A club, BTW, which will vote me out the moment the issue is NOT Iraq.


: I'm a member (5.00 / 3) (#26)
by andgarden on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 10:28:11 PM EST

of that club too.

We've been there from the beginning (5.00 / 2) (#30)
by Jet on Sun Mar 18, 2007 at 07:15:04 AM EST

None of the 12 writers at Bring It On fear critiquing the Dems. We want our party to stop coasting and get a move on. If we fear losing over doing the best thing for our country, we have already lost. An 'Out of Iraq Caucus'? We are there with bells on.

WSWS: Clinton vows to keep US troops in Iraq (5.00 / 1) (#31)
by Andreas on Sun Mar 18, 2007 at 07:36:24 AM EST

In a calculated bid to position herself for the 2008 Democratic nomination, Senator Hillary Clinton told the New York Times Wednesday that, if elected president, she would keep significant US military forces in Iraq for the foreseeable future. ...
There is an obvious reason for Clinton's refusal to repudiate her 2002 vote to authorize war against Iraq. She is signaling America's ruling elite that, should she be elected president, she is prepared to carry out even more horrendous crimes against the Iraqi people and to launch future wars of aggression against other countries in order to assert US hegemony and seize control of vital resources and markets. ...
The four-and-a-half months since the midterm elections have amply demonstrated that a genuine struggle against the war in Iraq can be waged only by breaking with the Democratic Party of Clinton as well as with the Bush administration.
The war cannot be ended by means of pressure on the existing political parties and state institutions of the US establishment. It requires the emergence of a new independent mass movement of workers and youth fighting internationally for the immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all US troops and for holding all those who conspired to launch this war politically and criminally accountable. This is the crucial importance of the Emergency Conference against War on March 31 and April 1 in Ann Arbor, Michigan, called by the International Students for Social Equality and the Socialist Equality Party.

If elected, Hillary Clinton vows to keep US troops in Iraq
By Bill Van Auken, 17 March 2007

Some of us are doing our best (5.00 / 1) (#35)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Mar 18, 2007 at 10:48:09 AM EST

We can't all be Arthur Silber.

As usual (4.83 / 6) (#1)
by Alexa on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:25:11 PM EST

You're speaking for me, too. :)

Yes In Your Name (5.00 / 3) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:31:11 PM EST

so to speak?

In my name, (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by Alexa on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:49:29 PM EST

Para seguro, 'migo.


Where's tlh lib? (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 09:52:16 PM EST

Tell him he is AWOL and needs to get his butt back in the fight.


He's good (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by Alexa on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 10:11:47 PM EST

He's been working on the family biz at NION.

You'll like this one, 'Mando.

Spineless Democrats, END THIS WAR! (and a blogger tells you how)

Complete And Utter Failure of Leadership.

29%

I'll tell him.


: Ahh (5.00 / 2) (#25)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Mar 17, 2007 at 10:27:20 PM EST

Well tomorrow, I will do an updated post with our spanking new Out of Iraq /Idiot Liberals Blog Caucus.

Good work (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Mar 18, 2007 at 08:57:31 AM EST

The Club of the <s>Banned</s> Gone we are now.
