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When Will Liars Be Called Liars?

In his last column, Frank Rich did something remarkable, he called someone a liar:

All of this was already going on when Mr. Bush said just before the election that “absolutely, we’re winning” and that “Al Qaeda is on the run.” What’s changed in the few months since his lie is that even more American troops are tied down in Iraq, that even more lethal weapons are being used against them, that even more of the coalition of the unwilling are fleeing, and that even more Americans are tuning out both the administration and the war they voted down in November to savor a referendum that at least offers tangible results, “American Idol.”

In today's semi-mea culpa from John Harris of Politico, he is afraid to say the L word about Republicans on the "slow bleed," while explaining that is precisely what happened:

With a mixture of pride and remorse, I have a confession: I am the author of the Democratic Party's "slow-bleed strategy" for ending the war in Iraq. . . . "Slow bleed" is my phrase. Murtha had nothing to do with it. . . . Republicans['] . . . willingness to wrest words from context -- and to attribute the phrase to Democrats even though it was not theirs -- was demagogic on the part of Republican operatives.

No Mr. Harris, it was lies on the part of Republican operatives. And your refusal to correctly report them as lies is another bit of bad journalism from you. That it is done by every other reporter in Washington does not make it right.

You are "dissembling" when you refuse to accurately describe lies as lies. Shame on you.

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    Not as remarkable as you think. (none / 0) (#1)
    by Gabriel Malor on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 01:43:44 PM EST
    BTD, I am not a Frank Rich fan, by any means, but I think you're clearly wrong when you write that his using the "L-word" on the White House is something unusual.

    February 18, 2007:

    So Mr. Bush's idea of doing something about it, ''pure and simple'' is itself a lie, since he is doing something about it only after he has knowingly sent a new round of underarmored American troops into battle.

    January 21, 2007:

    The president's pretense that Mr. Maliki and his inept, ill-equipped, militia-infiltrated security forces can advance American interests in this war is Neville Chamberlain-like in its naivete and disingenuousness. ... That's why the most destructive lie of all may be the White House's constant refrain that its doomed strategy is the only one anyone has proposed.

    December 3, 2007:

    [W]hen the president said that ''absolutely, we're winning'' in Iraq before the midterms, I just figured it was more of the same: another expedient lie to further his partisan political ends.

    This goes on for the last four years. I encourage you to browse TimeSelect's archives.

    Of course, maybe the most obvious point of all: Rich wrote a book entitled: The Greatest Story Ever Sold: The Decline and Fall of Truth from 9/11 to Katrina. It is described by the Boston Globe and others as:

    In a book making a case that George W. Bush has lied over and over to the citizenry, the president of the United States and his dishonest advisers receive credit for one thread of truthfulness: their admission that they make life-and-death decisions by relying on Christian faith rather than fact-based reality. The book is by Frank Rich.


    The nonspecific reference to "lying" (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 01:51:30 PM EST
    is common. Calling a specific statement a lie or person a liar, is NOT common.

    Your examples actually demonstrate that.

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    I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. (none / 0) (#6)
    by Gabriel Malor on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 02:14:58 PM EST
    In the February 18 and December 3 columns I quoted, he specifically quotes the President and then calls either the statement or the president himself a lie or liar.

    Furthermore, the front cover of Rich's book contains a collection of quotes from the President and various members of the administration which are now commonly regarded as lies: "Mission Accomplished ` Heck'uva Job, Brownie ` Shock and Awe ` Slam Dunk ` Dead or Alive ` Bring 'Em On! ` Last Throes ` The Smoking Gun is a Mushroom Cloud ` Uranium From Africa ` As the Iraqis Stand Up We'll Stand Down." The table of contents indicates that Rich deals with each of these.

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    Let's take a look (none / 0) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 02:49:09 PM EST
    So Mr. Bush's idea of doing something about it, "pure and simple" is itself a lie, since he is doing something about it only after he has knowingly sent a new round of underarmored American troops into battle.

    That specific statement is? It seems to me to be pretty nonspecific and more of a rhetorical device than anything.

    [W]hen the president said that ''absolutely, we're winning'' in Iraq before the midterms, I just figured it was more of the same: another expedient lie to further his partisan political ends.

    So Gabriel, are you saying Bush sayng "we're winning" is a lie? I say it is nuts, but not a lie. Are you agreeing with  Rich on that?

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    GM, if what you say is true, (none / 0) (#3)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 01:53:57 PM EST
    and therefor Rich really did do nothing remarkable, is BTD a lier? Or is he dissembling? Or is he merely misinformed?

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    Uh, "liar" not "lier"...and (none / 0) (#4)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 01:56:38 PM EST
    now that BTD's explained his point better, I retract my previous statement.

    How long is it going to take (none / 0) (#5)
    by kindness on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 02:04:37 PM EST
    for the Washington Post to offer John Harris a high paying, high profile columnist job?  He's already showing he has the below the belt swing (against democrats) down pat.  It's only a matter of time.

    It only took about a week (none / 0) (#8)
    by Cptsalesman on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 06:12:36 PM EST
    For me to stop reading Politico. They are just more of same inside the beltway wannabe elites. They had a good idea, and what seems like some good backing, but it didn't take long for them to start to show their true colors. Since I quit going over there, all I read is negative. I have no need to waste that kind of time.

    I'd (none / 0) (#9)
    by jondee on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 09:42:21 AM EST
    be impressed if he called David Brooks a liar; everyones been smelling the blood seeping from Bushco for a while now.