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Even Arnold Wants The Troops Home

From Melinda Henneberger:

Before their Iraq briefing at the White House yesterday, the nation's governors were instructed that they were not to ask any pesky questions about a timetable for bringing the troops home. So by the time California's Arnold Schwarzenegger was on his third question about a timetable for bringing the troops home, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Peter Pace was just the tiniest bit out of patience . . .

I got news for General Pace, the American People are out of patience.

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    Amazing (none / 0) (#1)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 27, 2007 at 10:10:49 PM EST
    But not really. Arnie wants to stay a moviestar. He will play whatever role he thinks will keep him in business. In any case it is good.

    The Hummer exists because Arnie told GM to make them for him. He was so pumped up about the Humvees in his Hollywood movies and desert storm.

    But now he is talking green. Wonder how many Hummers he has?

    patience or the lack of it. (none / 0) (#2)
    by diogenes on Tue Feb 27, 2007 at 11:47:03 PM EST
    Truman had us intervene in the Korean Civil War; our troops have been there for fifty-five years.
    Truman had us intervene in the European Civil Cold War-our troops were there and ready to fight until 1989.  Poland would love to have us base troops there, partly to protect them if the Russians get frisky.
    Clinton had us intervene in the Bosnian Civil War; our troops are still there after ten years.
    No one seems impatient with this.
    Surely Hillary's Plan B, once she is in office, will involve a withdrawal to safe bases inside Iraq, especially in Kurdistan.  And we will stay there for fifty years.  And I doubt that each single suicide bombing or death of a soldier will be lead coverage on the radio news day after day.

    Smells like bullsh*t (none / 0) (#3)
    by scarshapedstar on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 12:13:24 AM EST
    Clinton had us intervene in the Bosnian Civil War; our troops are still there after ten years.
    No one seems impatient with this.

    Really? They seemed awfully f*cking impatient in 1995.

    UNITED STATES TROOP DEPLOYMENTS IN BOSNIA (House of Representatives - December 13, 1995)

    Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas:

    Mr. Speaker, this is not about peace and war; it is about war. That is what is going on over there, and they are not going to stop fighting just because we go in there.

    I wholeheartedly support withholding funds from President Clinton's Bosnia mission. Although it is a drastic step and ties the President's hands, I do not feel like we have any other choice. The President has tied our hands, gone against the wishes of the American people, and this is the last best way I know how to show my respect for our American servicemen and women. They are helpless, following orders. But we, we
    are in a position to stop this terrible mistake before it happens.

    I know how those soldiers are feeling. I was in the military for 29 years, and I recognize that we used to say `Let's go to war. Let's go fight that war, it is the only one we have got.' And that is what some of them are doing. However, I was told by Senator Hutchison that the guys down in Fort Hood did not say that. They said `Why are we going there? Can't you stop us?' She said she would try.

    Thirty years ago when I was sent to Vietnam in a similar situation, Vietnam started out as a peace type mission, no defined goal, no exit strategy, no idea whose side we were on, and a created incident to gain support of the Congress. A peacekeeping mission? Come on. Does this not sound just like a carbon copy? I think it is.

    What is going to happen when our guys get over there, and if the rules of engagement apply, and they get shot at, and we start shooting back, what are their people going to say when we start killing them, killing Bosnians, killing Croatians, killing Serbs? We will do it, and we will get chastised for it.

    Let me just ask one more thing for the guys over here voting against it: What are you going to do when one of our women soldiers get captured?

    And he wasn't alone in publicly calling for troops to die:

    As thousands of U.S. soldiers packed for a winter in Bosnia, the Senate Wednesday debated President Clinton's plan to send those troops to enforce peace between ancient enemies. House Republicans vented their opposition.

    In a 108-64 vote Wednesday, House Republicans backed a measure that would cut off funding for the mission. Although House leaders gave the funding cutoff no chance of passing later Wednesday, the caucus action clearly reflected stiff opposition.

    [...]

    The measure drafted by Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-Kan.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was given the best chance of winning Senate approval Wednesday -shortly before the president departs for Paris and the signing of the Bosnian peace agreement Thursday.

    House backing appeared less certain, particularly after Republicans endorsed the measure by Rep. Bob Dornan of California, which would cut off money for the operation.

    "I'm going to be in Tuzla on Christmas with the troops," Dornan said, referring to the U.S. headquarters in Bosnia. "Please don't question Bob Dornan's support for the troops."

    [...]

    The Senate debated three options: Cut off funding, a proposal given little chance of passing; oppose Clinton's decision to send troops but support the soldiers themselves, expected to gain Republican support; or permit Clinton to send troops but impose restrictions on the mission, also considered likely to pass..."I think the American people are solidly behind our effort to stop the deployment, even though it's almost too late now," said Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.)

    You might want to take that one back to the drawing board.

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    Korea and Europe..... (none / 0) (#4)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 09:02:55 AM EST
    Are our soldiers dodging IED explosions daily in Korea and Europe?

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should station men with guns anywhere but on our shores....just saying your anology is kind of bunk-ish.

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    Diogenes (none / 0) (#5)
    by Edger on Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 10:18:54 AM EST
    is just trying to put things into a reasonable perspective.

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