Pat Robertson To Endorse Rudy

The insane Pat Robertson for the seemingly crazy and pro-choice Rudy.

Good to see how principled Robertson is on the social issues. Cilizza labels Robertson one of the most influential figures in the "social conservative movement" (the anti-science, pro-crazy wing?), but we were told something different before, so mission accomplished for Robertson I suppose. The funny part of Cilizza's ignorant column is this:

In recent years, Robertson has drawn considerable controversy for comments made about homosexuality

Homosexuality? Really? Did Robertson come out in favor when we were not looking? Come now Cilizza, either you are stupid or think we are. Robertson's problems are about his advocacy of assasination of the leaders of other nations:

Stunned by his "700 Club" commentary advocating the assassination of Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, several of the Rev. Pat Robertson's evangelical brethren quickly, and publicly, condemned him for it. Since in their estimation, the Rev. Robertson now plays a diminished role in national politics, some conservative commentators thought the "liberal" media blew the story out of proportion.

And his comment that US deserved 9/11:

What was not “tossed aside” from Robertson’s “700 Club” back then was the TV preacher’s penchant for outrage. A mere 48 hours after the terror strikes unfolded, Robertson engaged in an unseemly on-air discussion with the Rev. Jerry Falwell that blamed the attacks on Americans for being too secular.

Before turning to Falwell for comment, Robertson blathered on about how God had essentially turned against the United States.

“We have a Court that has essentially stuck its finger in God’s eye,” declared Robertson, “and said we’re going to legislate you out of the schools. We’re going to take your commandments from off the courthouse steps in various states. We’re not going to let little children read the commandments of God. We’re not going to let the Bible be read, no prayer in our schools. We have insulted God at the highest levels of our government. And, then we way, ‘Why does this happen?’ Well, why it’s happening is that God Almighty is lifting his protection from us.”

I wonder if the Media will ask Rudy about these Robertson statements:

"When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. `What do you mean?' the media challenged me. `You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?' My simple answer is, `Yes, they are.'" --from Pat Robertson's "The New World Order," page 218.

This pretty much sums up Pat's political philosophy. Unfortunately for him, what he espouses here is blatantly unconstitutional, as Article VI, Section 3 states: "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."


"The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by the Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that's what's been happening." -- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, Dec. 30, 1981

"It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into (our) institutions (today) are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation."--Pat Robertson, New York Magazine, August 18, 1986

"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them."--Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, January 14, 1991

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."--Pat Robertson, 1993 interview with Molly Ivins

(talking about apartheid South Africa) "I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 3/18/92

"NOW is saying that in order to be a woman, you've got to be a lesbian."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 12/3/97

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians." -- Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992

(talking about Planned Parenthood) "It is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism-everything that the Bible condemns."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 4/9/91

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 1/8/92

"The public education movement has also been an anti-Christian movement...We can change education in America if you put Christian principles in and Christian pedagogy in. In three years, you would totally revolutionize education in America." --Pat Robertson,"The 700 Club," September 27, 1993.

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    Pat Robertson To Endorse Rudy? (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 09:09:57 AM EST
    Say goodnight, Rudy...

    for (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Wile ECoyote on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 09:36:18 AM EST
    once we agree.  This is good news.  Rudy is a bum.

    And worse. Bonkers too, IMO. (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 09:48:03 AM EST
    Oh, and I almost forgot. (5.00 / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 12:08:54 PM EST
    If Pat believes what he claims to believe.... (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by kdog on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 09:24:37 AM EST
    he is so going straight to hell.

    It's the End of the World! (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by bselznick on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 10:11:50 AM EST
    I do believe this will result in them both going down in flames.  

    Al Gore in drag (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by scarshapedstar on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 11:39:37 AM EST
    Can you imagine the way the "liberal media" would have savaged Al Gore if there were multiple pictures and videos of him dressing as a woman, speaking in a high falsetto, et cetera... we would never have heard the end of it.

    Granted, they savaged him just the same. But one wonders why the Mean Girls are passing up such a slam dunk on Rudy... ah, the fickle ways of The Left.

    Too Funny (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by squeaky on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 05:43:24 PM EST

    [Giuliani's] actually something of an expert:

    "I have very, very strong views on religion that come about from having wanted to be a priest when I was younger, having studied theology for four years in college," he said. "It's an area I know really, really well academically.

    Perhaps it was in his study of the history of religion that he also became an expert on torture.

    [Giuliani's] actually something of an expert? (1.00 / 0) (#13)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 06:08:16 PM EST
    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by squeaky on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 06:19:29 PM EST
    With a touch of Robo Cop (read Blackwater) for the domestic side of partnering of Intl Corps and permanent war.

    very interesting (5.00 / 0) (#15)
    by Jlvngstn on Thu Nov 08, 2007 at 08:23:14 AM EST
    a twice divorced catholic with serious reltionship issues with his children and pro choice/gay, over a mormon.

    Guess this confirms that he does not believe Joseph Smith found those tablets in his backyard.  

    funny how your values change with financing.

    $14 million in federal faith-based money goes to Pat Robertson
    Televangelist's claim that Ariel Sharon's stroke was an act of God may have cost him the friendship of some Israelis, but it hasn't prevented his charity, Operation Blessing, from garnering faith-based grants from the U.S. government

    January 28, 2006

    torture as the punch line (none / 0) (#6)
    by Jgarza on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 10:13:06 AM EST
    so it's not just CNN who thinks torture is just HIGH-Larious so does Rudy.

    from the daily news

    The ex-mayor learned that the hard way Tuesday after an ally of John McCain - the Arizona senator tortured as a Vietnam War POW - demanded that Giuliani apologize for recent comments comparing his campaign schedule to "sleep deprivation."

    read here

    Digby has weighed in on GOP moral relativism (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Molly Bloom on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 11:21:28 AM EST
    and torture here

    Postmodern Torture aka Simulacrum (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by squeaky on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 11:38:32 AM EST
    Not torture, it is only making the subject think that s/he is being tortured. Now they are reading Baudrillard:

    Baudrillard's view, the (human) subject may try to understand the (non-human) object, but because the object can only be understood according to what it signifies (and because the process of signification immediately involves a web of other signs from which it is distinguished) this never produces the desired results. The subject, rather, becomes seduced (in the original Latin sense, seducere, to lead away) by the object. He therefore argued that, in the last analysis, a complete understanding of the minutiae of human life is impossible, and when people are seduced into thinking otherwise they become drawn toward a "simulated" version of reality, or, to use one of his neologisms, a state of "hyperreality." This is not to say that the world becomes unreal, but rather that the faster and more comprehensively societies begin to bring reality together into one supposedly coherent picture, the more insecure and unstable it looks and the more fearful societies become[7]. Reality, in this sense, "dies out."[8]

    The screams are not real. Lalalalalalalalal I can't hear them at all.


    Hah. Perfect contextualizing! (5.00 / 0) (#11)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 12:26:08 PM EST