Insurers Balk at Republican Health Care Plan

Does anyone not hate the proposed Republican health care bill? Major insurance companies joined the opposition to the bill today.

The two major trade groups for insurers, the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association and America’s Health Insurance Plans, announced their opposition on Wednesday to the Graham-Cassidy bill. They joined other groups fighting the bill, such as the American Medical Association, the American Hospital Association, AARP and the lobbying arm of the American Cancer Society.

“The bill contains provisions that would allow states to waive key consumer protections, as well as undermine safeguards for those with pre-existing medical conditions,’’ said Scott P. Serota, the president and chief executive of the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association. “The legislation reduces funding for many states significantly and would increase uncertainty in the marketplace, making coverage more expensive and jeopardizing Americans’ choice of health plans.”


The man with the tin heart that has a desk in the oval office thinks it's a great bill. He doesn't care that it will inject chaos into the health care system, just like he didn't care that he brought chaos to the Executive Branch of our government.

If Republicans only had a heart
If Republicans only had a brain
We would be so much better off than we are today

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    I'm glad I'm old (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:11:43 PM EST
    and will probably die soon. There is no future to look forward to.

    This is how they want us to feel Chuck (none / 0) (#7)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:24:41 PM EST
    I'm exhausted. I'm using "coping" mechanisms right now.

    Say what you can when you can. It is your nation too. You worked to give our nation a future too. You get say.

    I'm sorry though. And they've really GOT ME too :(


    I watched Back in Black (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:46:07 PM EST
    from last nights Daily Show this afternoon. I laughed and cried simulteneously. One thing is certain, Lewis has a way with words.

    Josh is graduating from Lewis' high school (none / 0) (#10)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 01:14:02 PM EST
    It was one of the things that made that transition a lot better for Josh than it could have been.

    Graham/Cassidy (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by KeysDan on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 01:28:54 PM EST
    brings out fears and cheers about Medicare for All.  Fears, in that some wingers are concerned that the flexibility and block grants may be used by some states for something like a Medicare for All.  So much for the treasured state's rights, not to mention the values of wide latitude for states who supposedly know more about their citizen's health needs than those Washington liberals.  

    Cheers, because there are grand hopes that this turkey is a godsend, propelling the jettisoning of ACA, starting over with what is really needed, Medicare for All.  Sort of like, Susan Sarandon positing that Trump will be more likely to usher in the "revolution" immediately, as opposed to what Hillary would bring.  

    Yes, just as all the good Trump will bring by being a bad president, wonderment in health care will be had by the shock therapy planned by Bill and Lindsey.

      Flexibility--states, starting in 2020, get block grants to replicate ACA or to pursue something totally different at their discretion. Maybe 50 different ways..The FU plan:(Flexibility and Uncertainty) for all.  States can decide whom to cover and how, or if.

     But a consistency is the rollback of Obamacare protections, each state decides benefits  that must be covered or if a customer's pre-existing conditions should be protected from higher prices.

    The individual markets from now until 2020, when the states have to administer a new health program, (good luck, South Dakota) have no guard rails for stabilization. The tax penalty for refusal to buy insurance is eliminated, critical to the concept of insurance (shared risk).  Blue states with low numbers of uninsured, receive reductions in federal funds; red states see increases (a selling point for the likes of Ted Cruz).  

    As with other Republican iterations, Lindsey/Bill's bill shoots past the damage done to ACA Medicaid and goes after the 1965 Medicaid model, reducing benefits and increasing loads on states (they get some and lose a lot).

     And, for those who could care less since they get their insurance at work, there is a little something there for them, too. State flexibility permits annual or lifetime limits on coverage, and eliminates ACA penalties for employers who do not offer their workers affordable coverage.

    But, the bill does get rid of those ACA taxes that affect those of igh incomes, including their unearned income.

    this will not pass (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 11:31:17 AM EST
    im not even sure McConnell wil bring it up.

    McCain is almost certainly a no.  so is Murkowski.  and i think there will be others.

    this seems completey insane.  its said this is happening because of "pressure from the white house" as a result of pressure from doners.

    maybe its just a 'fine, you want another vote?  you got it.  enjoy it.'

    it wont pass.

    It all depends on how much noise (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:18:21 PM EST
    Those of us who will be affected make. They were feeling much safer yesterday. They threw out their talking points without addressing why some states were receiving more funds, and they lied about the pre-existing coverage.

    The red states receiving less funding refused to expand medicaid and refused the exchanges. Why would ANYONE believe those states believe their constients deserve health care and they are willing to assist in that? They haven't before!!!!

    This is where those swing states and those red congressional districts that went for Hillary matter. They must feel, hear, taste the danger. These reps are already not that empathetic or cognizant. They need all the help they can get.


    From your lips (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Yman on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 01:11:18 PM EST
    I'm not so sure.  They're under incredible pressure from their base to pass something or, more accurately, to follow through on their promise to repeal Obamacare.  I don't think they'd put themselves through this kind of pain (and waste of precious time) all over again unless they at least believed there was a decent chance it would pass.

    Hopefully, you're right.


    Sure hope you're right, Howdy... (none / 0) (#3)
    by Anne on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:05:25 PM EST
    because this is a terrible piece of legislation, that is worse - who knew that was even possible? - than the last horror they tried to pass.

    And I think more people are paying attention, and know it.

    GOP is visibly and palpably desperate to get it passed, though, because not getting it is going to kill any possibility of tax reform.  And maybe kill their ability to get re-elected.

    It's a wonder, though, that they can even navigate the halls of the Senate without constantly banging their ever-growing noses into doors, walls and each other; what does it say that they don't even seem to care about how bad - and obvious - their lies are now?

    If you haven't read the Vox interviews with 9 Senators, you should - it's kind of mind-boggling.


    The other opposition quote... (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:00:34 PM EST
    from the insurance industry in the article is rather interesting...

    America's Health Insurance Plans was even more pointed. The legislation could hurt patients by "further destabilizing the individual market" and could potentially allow "government-controlled single payer health care to grow," said Marilyn B. Tavenner, the president and chief executive of the association. Without controls, some states could simply eliminate private insurance, she warned.

    I don't know who you're threatening with your second point there Marilyn...the people want single payer! Should the people be rooting for this garbage as the disaster before the dawn of single payer?  Is that what you're telling us?

    If they start killing people for profit again (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:21:55 PM EST
    Single payer push will grow. Of course the way will be paved with dead people. The Trump base believed him though when he said he was going to give everyone coverage and it was going to be much cheaper. They believed it!

    Since skulls make ugly pavers... (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by kdog on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 01:23:51 PM EST
    maybe we can convince the empty skull in the oval office the absolute best chance he has to repeal and replace the ACA is the Medicare For All bill in the Senate, and to throw his bullying behind that bigly.

    Crazy f&cker has done crazier things!


    It does not matter what they vote (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 01:36:56 PM EST
    This democracy has passed a milestone. Some don't understand certain things, they cling to biases, but nobody wants to die for profit anymore...NOBODY. And if they find out they are, their reps are going to be scorched earth.

    For some voters, they still seek someone to blame it all on. Just as long as their ox isn't gored.

    It is all of us forward or everyone is at risk. I'm so tired of certain bases not wanting to understand that.

    My God the bots are thick too. It's a botfest out there. Is there really nothing Facebook and Twitter can do about it?


    I don't want to be a total jerk, but... (none / 0) (#12)
    by desertswine on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 01:28:36 PM EST
    wasn't it the Scarecrow who had no brain instead of the lion?

    Correct... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 02:07:28 PM EST
    The Lion had no courage.  But that works too;)