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The Uncut Saddam Hussein Hanging Video

ABC News reports a cell phone by one of those present at the execution of Saddam Hussein recorded insults being made to Saddam and Saddam responding with an obscenity...it also records the actual hanging with his body falling through the trap door in the floor.

ABC doesn't link to the actual video, but here it is. Since I can't understand the language, I can't make out the words. Saddam's expression doesn't seem to change much to me.

Hanging is barbaric. See for yourself.

Update: Law Prof Doug Berman of Sentencing Law and Policy weighs in on publicizing the video.

WARNING....GRAPHIC....NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH.

Direct link here. Another version with louder audio is here.

The New York Times reports on the final exchange of words here.

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    Just curious.... (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by kdog on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 07:08:06 AM EST
    is there a difference between putting a clip of a hanging on the net and a clip of a beheading that I should know about?

    I refuse to watch it.  Cuz one day I hope nobody will take some perverse pleasure out of watching my demise for entertainment.

    Re: Just curious.... (none / 0) (#5)
    by fafnir on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 08:29:04 AM EST
    I agree.

    [ Parent ]
    ...c ome kdog (none / 0) (#33)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 08:39:32 PM EST
    Well, I would say that the hangee was a brutal, evil man of which there was no doubt that he was guilty.

    The folks with their heads sawed off... much worse than beheading... were just innocent people who happened to be Jews or WASPS in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    See the difference??

    ....come of kdog.. I thought better of you...

    [ Parent ]

    still purposely (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by soccerdad on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 08:41:54 PM EST
    missing the point. Some things never change.


    [ Parent ]
    soccerdad (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Sailor on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 09:02:18 PM EST
    a brutal, evil man of which there was no doubt that he was guilty.

    I thought ppj referring to bush!


    [ Parent ]

    Yeah (none / 0) (#36)
    by soccerdad on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 09:20:29 PM EST
    but that would have meant ppj was right about something ;-)

    [ Parent ]
    Barbaric (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by roger on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 09:16:43 AM EST
    I'm with Kdog.

    Who would take pleasure from watching someone die?

    I cant envision wanting to watch this

    The same type of people (3.33 / 3) (#8)
    by soccerdad on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 09:21:07 AM EST
    who used to pack a picnic lunch, gather up the kids, get on a train and go watch a good sunday afternoon lynching of a darkie.

    A majority of Americans


    [ Parent ]

    Prove that (3.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Wile ECoyote on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 10:01:34 AM EST
    statement, please.

    [ Parent ]
    you can always start here (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by soccerdad on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 10:39:24 AM EST
    here

    Often victims were lynched by a small group of white vigilantes late at night. Sometimes, however, lynchings became mass spectacles with a circus atmosphere. Children often attended these public lynchings, which anti-lynching advocates saw as a form of indoctrination. A large lynching might be announced beforehand in the newspaper, and there were cases in which a lynching was started early so that a newspaper reporter could make his deadline. It was common for postcards to be sold depicting lynchings, typically allowing a newspaper photographer to make some extra money. These postcards became popular enough to be an embarrassment to the government, and the postmaster officially banned them in 1908. However, the lynching postcards continued to exist through the 1930s.

    pictures are here

    [ Parent ]

    Where are you now, Wile E.? (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Dadler on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 03:38:56 PM EST
    Actually trying to learn the unpleasant realities of our nation's history.

    How could you not know this about your nation?

    Do your homework, the kind that is difficult and forces you to face the ugly truth.

    [ Parent ]

    Sorry (1.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Wile ECoyote on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 05:09:49 PM EST
    It is called work.  You know.

    [ Parent ]
    Prove the (none / 0) (#24)
    by Wile ECoyote on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 05:10:49 PM EST
    Statement:
    A majority of Americans


    [ Parent ]
    That is simply (1.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Pancho on Tue Jan 02, 2007 at 12:38:48 AM EST
    an idiotic statement. What is wrong with you?

    [ Parent ]
    read your history (none / 0) (#39)
    by soccerdad on Tue Jan 02, 2007 at 05:31:26 AM EST
    ignorance is no excuse

    [ Parent ]
    Those people don't exist (none / 0) (#42)
    by Pancho on Tue Jan 02, 2007 at 11:42:12 PM EST
    in this country today and they were a tiny minority 100 years ago.

    Why are you so much less concerned about the barbarism of the present day Islamists?

    [ Parent ]

    Those "people", Pancho.... (none / 0) (#43)
    by Edger on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 06:52:01 AM EST
    ...very much exist - everywhere. You are one of them - unless you want to argue that you don't exist?

    They are the people who hanged and supported hanging Saddam.

    [ Parent ]

    careful your ignorance is showing (none / 0) (#44)
    by soccerdad on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 08:15:35 AM EST
    they were a tiny minority 100 years ago


    [ Parent ]
    Bush divide and conquer strategy (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Edger on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 10:55:10 AM EST
    to create permanent war by provoking discord and violence throughout Islam, not just in Iraq...

    New Delhi: The All India Shia Personal Law Board (AISPLB) on Saturday took a rather strong stand on the execution of former Iraq president Saddam Hussein.

    Terming Saddam's execution as "justified", the AISPLB added that Saddam was tried by a court of justice and punished for his heinous crimes.

    "Saddam should not be seen as a Muslim as he was not following true Islam," the president of AISPLB's Mumbai chapter, Sayed Mohammed Nawab, said in an official release.


    -----
    NEW DELHI:...Zafaryab Jilani, lawyer and member of the All-India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB), said the "illegal hanging" of a friend of India should be strongly condemned because "no legal procedure was adopted in conducting the trial and the sentence was awarded without observing the principles of natural justice."

    The execution just before Eid-ul-Azha was aimed at creating more hatred between Shias and Sunnis and to slow down the reconciliation process in Iraq, he said and asked Muslims to guard themselves against the "anti-Islamic designs of the U.S."
    ...
    Mr. Jilani called upon them to maintain calm despite this "grave act of provocation" by the U.S.-supported "puppet government" in Iraq.

    "Executing Saddam Hussein just at the time of Eid-ul-Azha is very unfortunate and this was done only to hurt the Muslim sentiments." The execution was part of a deep conspiracy to fuel the sectarian violence between Shias and Sunnis not only across Iraq but also in the entire West Asia. It could affect India as well, said Kamal Farooqi, another AIMPLB member.

    Bush/Cheney and the administration are taking advantage of every opportunity and doing eveything possible to fan the flames across the entire Middle East. They don't want peace in the region. It is against their 'interests' for peace to develop there.

    Not enough people get it yet, but: What we see in Iraq is exactly what was intended by Bush/Cheney all along.

    I hope that when the Democratic controlled 110th Congress and Senate convene next Thursday they will at least take John Dean's suggestions seriously.

    Next nightmare (none / 0) (#15)
    by Edger on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 11:01:35 AM EST
    Pakistan could become next US nightmare
    December 30, 2006
    IT HAS more than twice as many people as Iran, six times more than Iraq, many primed for Islamic extremism by a legacy of poverty and illiteracy left by decades of misrule by corrupt secular leaders, civilian and military.

    It already has nuclear weapons, and ballistic missiles made with North Korean help. It shelters jihadists battling Western forces across its border, and fanatical cells training Muslim youth in Western countries to put bombs on buses and metros.

    If Iraq has turned into a nightmare for the US President, George Bush, think about Islamists gaining power in Pakistan, population 166 million, and their hands on its nuclear arsenal.
    ...
    Musharraf throws up unconvincing bluster. He claims that Pakistan has done all it can to prevent cross-border military activity, with its army losing 750 killed in campaigns since September 11, 2001, along its frontier with Afghanistan.

    Yet Musharraf and his government are deeply ambivalent in their commitment to supporting the Western campaign, in return for which about $US4 billion ($5 billion) in US aid has flowed their way over the past five years.
    ...
    Soon after he seized power in 1999 - ahead of being sacked by Sharif - The Economist magazine called Musharraf a "useless dictator".

    Seven years later, he hangs onto power without having achieved much in the way of reform, largely because the US regards him as key to keeping the Islamists out of power.

    That is turning out to be another big misconception in Washington.

    No misconception. They don't want peace in the region. It is against their 'interests' for peace to develop there.

    Happy New Year.... sort of...

    [ Parent ]

    Now that America has lawless, barbaric,... (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Bill Arnett on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 01:11:05 PM EST
    ...war-loving leaders without the grace to give any of the prisoners WE take even the semblance of a "fair trial", I am embarrassed that we are responsible for the kangaroo court to which Saddam was subjected prior to his execution.

    I have not and will not view the video, I've seen quite enough violence and death in my time, thank you, and it shames me that so many of my countrymen rejoice and celebrate a death that was nothing more than the slow motion murder of a tyrant, by tyrants, for the sake of tyranny.

    This was a "...don't mess with us..." murder carried out by the puppets of our choice. No good will come of this.

    I hate to say it, but when our bankers, the Communist Chinese, finally grow tired of American hegemony, decide to yank the plug on loaning us any more war-making money, dumps the dollar, and bankrupts us so badly - and quickly - that we are nothing more than a banana republic without the bananas, we will deserve it and NO ONE or ANY COUNTRY will care or lend us a hand or mourn our passing. (We did, after all, pay for all this with China's dime.)

    Nice job, mr. boosh. I hope you are enjoying yourself sitting in the Oval Office, eating popcorn, and fondling Saddam's pistol while you watch him drop over and over again. And you wonder why we will soon have no more allies left at all.

    Killing, barbarism and well-informed decisions (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Aaron on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 03:20:59 AM EST
    I think the question of posting a recording of someone's death is rather moot in the context of this barbarism and those committed by Saddam Hussein.  In fact I think some people should be made to watch.

    No doubt the world is a safer place without Saddam Hussein just as it always is with the removal from society of the killers of other human beings. But beyond that practical reality, the killing of a fellow human being, no matter what their crime, diminishes the value of everyone's life.  Regardless of the justification for killing, when we as a society are reduced to this the lowest of common denominators, all life is devalued.

    And if we are to inflict such punishment upon the dealers of unjustifiable killing, I am forced to confront my own responsibility, and being in the uncomfortable position of looking at my own country's actions, and the actions of my country's president and leaders. I must face the fact that not only is George W. Bush guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity, crimes hardly less heinous and contemptible than those of Saddam Hussein, but I myself as a member of this democracy, I am responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity.  So not only should George W. Bush one day be made to walk up those stairs to the gallows, and have that rope placed around his neck, and wait for that long drop and quick snap at the end, but I myself, just as every other responsible US citizen, taxpayer and voter, we all deserve to stand on that platform and get our just desserts. No doubt some of us feel no responsibility whatsoever for the actions of our president and this White House and Congress, but history and our victims will be the ultimate judge of that and us.

    And don't anyone give me any of that representative democracy or Republic crap, tell it to the judge.  If the people are sovereign, then it is we who must bear ultimate responsibility.  Everyone on down the line from the president through his Cabinet, the Congress, the military, state and local governments, down to school school board and city Council members, ending up with each and every citizen over voting age.  Only kids, teenagers and felons get a pass, only they will justly be granted immunity from the great purge when it comes.  Interesting combo for a fresh start, convicts and prepubescents.  No doubt future generations will have real incentive to grab the reins of civic responsibilities with both hands and pulled back hard when our elected leaders start acting like tyrants and petty dictators.  They will be well motivated to keep the ship of state in trim knowing that their very lives are on the line.

    I just hope that on my execution day, someone will be running 6  to 10 high resolution high-definition cameras, with at least six sound engineers recording everything in 6.1 Digital Dolby surround sound along with a 24 track analog backup.  So that every excruciating moment will be covered from all the most advantageous visual and acoustic angles, with whip pans and super close-ups on every bead of sweat on my and every one of your upper lips as we wait to find out if there really is something after the death of the body.

    That way when future generations watch me and George, and Dick and Donald and Colin and Condoleezza and the rest take that long walk up the stairs, they'll be able to see, in high-definition detail, exactly how short a trip it is between life-and-death.  Then they will get to decide whether they want more of it, death that is, or if they want to put a higher price on life, perhaps hold all life in precious regard.  It's the choice generations to come will get to make for themselves, and I want them to be provided with every gory detail in hi-fi technicolor, so they can make an informed decision.

    As a member of a democracy, where responsibility is something I was born with, I know the direction I want to take when it comes to killing, how bout you?

    As a photographer and stereo aficionado, people please use better cameras and higher quality microphones.  Because I want to make well-informed decisions as well.

    A Lynching... (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Edger on Tue Jan 02, 2007 at 02:34:05 PM EST
    River @ Baghdad Burning:
    It's official. Maliki and his people are psychopaths. This really is a new low. It's outrageous- an execution during Eid. Muslims all over the world (with the exception of Iran) are outraged. Eid is a time of peace, of putting aside quarrels and anger- at least for the duration of Eid.

    This does not bode well for the coming year. No one imagined the madmen would actually do it during a religious holiday. It is religiously unacceptable and before, it was constitutionally illegal. We thought we'd at least get a few days of peace and some time to enjoy the Eid holiday, which coincides with the New Year this year. We've spent the first two days of a holy holiday watching bits and pieces of a sordid lynching.

    America the savior... After nearly four years and Bush's biggest achievement in Iraq has been a lynching. Bravo Americans.

    Maliki has made the mistake of his life. His signature and unhidden glee at the whole execution, especially on the first day of Eid Al Adha (the Eid where millions of Muslims make a pilgrimage to Mecca), will only do more to damage his already tattered reputation. He's like a vulture in a suit (or a balding weasel). It's almost embarrassing. I kept expecting Muwafaq Al Rubaii to run over and wipe the drool from the corner of his mouth as he signed for the execution. Are these the people who represent the New Iraq? We're in so much more trouble than I ever thought.



    Will this satisfy (none / 0) (#1)
    by Che's Lounge on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 12:53:37 AM EST
    the Shiites' thirst for revenge? Will they now look forward to the future of ALL Iraqis? Can they use this moment to sit down and work for peace? Don't they realize that further violence feeds the neocon agenda of control of their oil, and leaves them open to further exploitation?

    The time for vengence is past. The opportunity for peace is now. All of our futures await our decisions.

    Do they have a clue in Wacko? Do they care? If not, why are they still free?

    Of course not ... (none / 0) (#2)
    by narius on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 01:58:08 AM EST
    The Shiites are killing sunnis everyday and verse versa. Anyone who thinks that a long oppressed majority will only be satisfied with one hanging is naive about human nature.

    Do you really think that the Shiites will embrace peace tomorrow? No matter what we do or do not do, there will be a lot more blood in Iraq for a long time to come. We can't erase hatred between the Shiites and the Sunnis in a short time no matter how hard we try.

    [ Parent ]

    Then I assume... (none / 0) (#19)
    by Dadler on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 03:40:20 PM EST
    ...You want our military out of there yesterday.  

    [ Parent ]
    Absolutely .... (none / 0) (#20)
    by narius on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 04:31:21 PM EST
    All they are doing is getting in the middle of the Shiite-Sunni fight.

    What they need to do is go to Afgan and get Bin Laden.

    [ Parent ]

    Hooray, we agree (none / 0) (#21)
    by Dadler on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 04:41:49 PM EST
    Except bin Laden is safe in Pakistan, where we know he is, where we will never go after him.  Sad but true.

    [ Parent ]
    i can't think of a method (none / 0) (#3)
    by cpinva on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 04:06:41 AM EST
    of execution that isn't, at best, barbaric. even the so-called "humane" method of lethal injection still requires an unwilling participant be strapped down, have needles plunged into him/her, so a toxic brew of chemicals can be pumped directly into a vein.

    just another tribal vendetta, in a land of warring tribes. not far, mentally, out of the stone age. you either have to put in enough force to wipe them all out, or get the heck out of there. i don't see this "surge" happy medium working.

    i wonder if everyone got "closure" out of this?

    Saddam (none / 0) (#6)
    by Fredo on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 08:40:56 AM EST
    BAGHDAD (AP)

    They're selling postcards of the hanging
    They're painting the passports brown
    The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
    The circus is in town.

    Fredo C.

    While (none / 0) (#11)
    by aahpat on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 10:37:25 AM EST
    I understand the need to document these elements of reality, I don't need them.

    Postcards of a hanging...

    I would rather he been locked in a box in the desert with pictures of everyone he killed on the walls and nothing but guards who don't speak his language around him. Put 24-7 live feed on the internet for the rest of his life to dissuade others from a life as distators.

    Blood lust (none / 0) (#12)
    by aahpat on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 10:39:15 AM EST
    part of the human condition like many addictions....

    I viewed it (none / 0) (#16)
    by Che's Lounge on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 12:21:16 PM EST
    the same way I viewed the Zapruder film.

    The video shows a FAKE hanging of a SH double. (none / 0) (#22)
    by Yes2Truth on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 04:51:28 PM EST

    First of all, that's an actor playing Saddam.  SH has straight teeth and a short neck.  The actor in the video is the same person shown in the Kangaroo Court and we know he isn't SH because the actor's teeth are crooked and his neck is too long (which is why he has a beard).

    The video itself is an obvious hoax.  If this had been an actual hanging, we would see a seamless video of the event, from beginning to end.

    Indeed (3.00 / 2) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 08:34:12 PM EST
    And all is explained here.

    [ Parent ]
    That's one (none / 0) (#28)
    by Che's Lounge on Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 07:02:53 PM EST
    dedicated actor! What, no encore?

    Is it just me? (none / 0) (#37)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 10:39:42 PM EST
    Or has TL devolved into a complete circle-jerk over the past month or so?

    It seems no matter what the topic, the usual suspects repeat the same stuff to each other. Over and over and over again. Day in and day out.

    Of course the topics have varied very little as well. Ford, Saddam, SaddamFord, Edwards, Hillary, Obama, FordSaddam, and, oh yeah, Bush sucks.

    I'll check in again next week to see if anyone has something to say that they haven't already said 1000X before.

    I know, I know, don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out Sarc...

    Whatever.

    Actual video (none / 0) (#45)
    by sampatel on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 09:16:19 AM EST
    Do you want to watch the video?  better view
    http://www.aajkatv.com/pplayer.php?id=122

    --

    One more video (none / 0) (#46)
    by werkon on Fri Jan 05, 2007 at 05:07:45 AM EST
    The 2nd Saddam hanging video is here: Saddam execution website

    Isnt it Ironic (none / 0) (#47)
    by Masterdom on Sun Jan 07, 2007 at 02:04:07 AM EST
     The Emasculation of Saddam Hussein brings to a close a sad and sorry chapter in history.
    There is no question of Sadam's Guilt, and as punishment for the crime of murder in Iraq is the Death Penalty, I see it a fitting end to this despot.
    What I find rather hard to digest though , is the fact that Mr George W. Bush was not standing along side his friend recieving the same form of justice.
    Surely Mr Bush is responsible for many more innocent people's demise than the late Mr Hussein.
    America's Debt has reached the point of no return, largely due to the many Billions wasted in their quest to secure the Earths last remaining oil supplies, or George calls it 'the war on terror'.
    As a result of this, in the coming years the world will witness America  relinquish  its title as the 'Superpower'.
    When this eventuates it will be interesting to observe the consequences for this 'legalised tyrant'.