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Boehlert Nails the Warbloggers

Great reading -- Eric Boehlert on the warbloggers' obsession with the Associated Press.

Something doesn't add up here, and I assume it's something warbloggers don't want to address, as they cling to their anti-press fantasy to explain the Iraq debacle. Namely, if insurgents view journalists as their allies -- weapons in their sophisticated propaganda war against the United States -- then why are insurgents killing journalists at an alarming rate? The entire premise of the warblogger theory makes no sense.

With no facts to back up their allegations, warbloggers instead lean heavily on name-calling in their never-ending attempt to libel and smear journalists.

As Boehlert notes, pretty soon the warbloggers will claim it's the media's fault we lost the war in Iraq.

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    his name is (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by cpinva on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 01:11:34 AM EST
    iraqi police captain jamil (jamail?) hussain. a real guy, as reported in multiple places, both in the MSM, and on the net. were it not so late, i'd round up the links for you. i shall do so tomorrow, when i'm more conscious.

    as it is, i'm still wondering where that "sophisticated propoganda war" of the insurgent's is located? i sure haven't seen it. can someone link me to it?

    as far as reporting in general is concerned, no doubt there are some "good things" happening in iraq: schools & hospitals rebuilt, etc. however, this isn't something to get real excited about, since we were the ones that blew them up in the first place.

    it's customary, when you destroy someone else's property, in the absence of a legitimately compelling reason, to replace it. i don't consider that "good things", i consider that the right thing to do, since the iraqi people never asked us to invade in the first place.

    as well, creating conditions ripe for chaos also doesn't constitute "good things", IMHO.

    but hey, that's just me.

    Please tell.... (none / 0) (#7)
    by demohypocrates on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 08:56:06 AM EST
    iraqi police captain jamil (jamail?) hussain. a real guy, as reported in multiple places, both in the MSM, and on the net.

    I'm not saying bs, but please give one legit link, and not one from the AP saying he is a real police captain because we know he is a real police captain.

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    So... (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by scarshapedstar on Thu Dec 21, 2006 at 02:21:33 PM EST
    What on earth are you looking for here? A link to the Iraqi National Police Registry? Good luck.

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    And The Answer To Boehlert's Question Is . . . (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by john horse on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 06:07:39 AM EST
    Boehlert asks a very simple question that those who believe in their media conspiracy fantasies willingly choose to ignore: "if insurgents view journalists as their allies -- weapons in their sophisticated propaganda war against the United States -- then why are insurgents killing journalists at an alarming rate?"

    The reason that you choose to ignore this question is that it is easier to blame others than it is to face responsibility.  If the war has turned out to be a fiasco then shouldn't those who got us into this mess be held to responsible?  For those on the Right its always somebody else's fault.  

    Outsourcing Personal Responsibility (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Molly Bloom on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 08:35:27 AM EST
     For those on the Right its always somebody else's fault.
     

    Yes the Right calls this taking personal responsibility and the Right always demands someone else do it.



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    No, it wasn't (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Sailor on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 12:37:12 PM EST
    Their response is ignored by AP accounts.
    That's a complete fabrication, as a teensy bit of googling would have shown you.
    The Associated Press denounces unfounded attacks on its story about six Sunni worshipers burned to death outside their mosque on Friday, November 24. The attempt to question the existence of the known police officer who spoke to the AP is frankly ludicrous and hints at a certain level of desperation to dispute or suppress the facts of the incident in question.

    AP reporters who have been working in Iraq throughout the conflict learned of the mosque incident through witnesses and neighborhood residents and corroborated it with a named police spokesmen and also through hospital and morgue workers.

    We have conducted a thorough review of the sourcing and reporting involved  and plan to move a  more detailed report  about the entire incident soon, with greater detail provided by multiple eye witnesses. Several of those witnesses spoke to AP on the condition that their names would not be used because they fear reprisals.

    The police captain cited in our story has long been known to the AP reporters and has been interviewed in his office and by telephone on several occasions during the past two years.

    He is an officer at the police station in Yarmouk, with a record of reliability and truthfulness. His full name is Jamil Gholaiem Hussein.

    The AP stands by its story


    But trust the <strike>bloodthirtsy ghouls</strike> rethuglican bushlickers to try and focus on one perceived error as proof that iraq is just peachy keen and any problems in this new utopia of democracy are because the media aren't focusing on all the good news.
    yep, all the good news like Attacks in Iraq at Record High, Pentagon Says and Soldier suicides in Iraq rose last year and US Military Deaths in Iraq at 2,952.

    BTW, nice job of finding those WMDs and bringing democracy and stability to the middle east.


    Creak creak creak (1.00 / 1) (#14)
    by demohypocrates on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 03:26:54 PM EST
    That's a complete fabrication, as a teensy bit of googling would have shown you.

    You didnt do well with those Pat the Pilot reading comprehension books.  Why dont you link me to the AP article where they quote a rep from  centcom or the Iraqi gov.?

    But trust the <strike>bloodthirtsy ghouls</strike> rethuglican bushlickers

    Sound of hinges creaking loudly.

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    you are too lazy (4.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Sailor on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 03:36:58 PM EST
    to click the links in the article which did a roundup of the responses. Including the actual letter to the AP and the AP's response and further info proving AP was right and the military

    Do your own homework before accusing me, or even the AP, of ignoring centcom and iraqi interior ministry. The AP is more reliable than either and they don't torture people.

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    Jamil Hussein (none / 0) (#18)
    by Edger on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 07:25:48 PM EST
    the Iraqi policeman at center of AP source brouhaha not only exists, but faces arrest
    An Iraqi policeman who has been the focus of an ongoing dispute involving the Associated Press and some high-profile bloggers on the right does indeed "exist," Editor & Publisher is reporting.


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    left unsaid (1.00 / 1) (#1)
    by jarober on Tue Dec 19, 2006 at 11:43:15 PM EST
    I note that you haven't come up with the AP's "police captain" source - and have decided to omit it entirely.  What I object to is the false reporting (we see a lot of that vis-a-vis Israel) and willingness to accept stories from stringers they don't know well as true.  A lot of the stringers over there are no better than thye video press releases that lots of companies slip onto the evening news.

    Imagine! (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by scarshapedstar on Thu Dec 21, 2006 at 02:23:18 PM EST
    In a land where cooperating with Westerners generally results in your head being forcibly removed from your neck, sources are reluctant to give too many details about themselves! Heck, some of them don't even give their real names!

    Clearly, the only explanation for this behavior is that the LLL/MSM/Democrat Party wants us to lose.

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    From what I see, the AP does not consider him a (1.00 / 1) (#3)
    by demohypocrates on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 12:12:53 AM EST
    stringer but a legit official source.  From what I interpret, that lends him a higher degree of legitimacy.  Maybe not in terms of accuracy, but at least interms of credibility.

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    Expected. (none / 0) (#8)
    by Edger on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 09:54:17 AM EST
    Something doesn't add up here, and I assume it's something warbloggers don't want to address, as they cling to their anti-press fantasy to explain the Iraq debacle.

    Pavlovian pain avoidance. Denial. Blame shifting. Ducking responsibility. Etc... etc...etc...etc.

    All the usual stuff. If it weren't so sick it would be funny.

    And... bonus... like wild rabid dogs routing through garbage for food they think they've found something to seize on and think they can sink their teeth into and repeat it ad nauseum (to themselves and each other mostly) to take the focus off the unbearable enormity of the debacle bush, and they by association and complicity, have created in Iraq. It's all the AP's fault, or somebody elses...

    Totally expected:

    Accessory (legal term)
    Accessory (definition)
    Complicity (definition)
    Legalizing Torture
    Accessory (moral)

    The reason, obviously (none / 0) (#9)
    by scarshapedstar on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 10:57:51 AM EST
    Is that every AP journalist is secretly an Islamojihadifarian, and as soon as they do their Pledge of Allegiance to Osama, or whatever, the Muslamofascists cut their head off to facilitate their martyrdom and the accompanying night of 72 virgins.

    Ron Suskind explained it beautifully... (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 11:10:01 AM EST
    ...back in October 2004:

    Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush

    "He truly believes he's on a mission from God. Absolute faith like that overwhelms a need for analysis..."
    ...
    And for those who don't get it? That was explained to me in late 2002 by Mark McKinnon, a longtime senior media adviser to Bush, who now runs his own consulting firm and helps the president. He started by challenging me. ''You think he's an idiot, don't you?'' I said, no, I didn't. ''No, you do, all of you do, up and down the West Coast, the East Coast, a few blocks in southern Manhattan called Wall Street. Let me clue you in. We don't care. You see, you're outnumbered 2 to 1 by folks in the big, wide middle of America, busy working people who don't read The New York Times or Washington Post or The L.A. Times. And you know what they like? They like the way he walks and the way he points, the way he exudes confidence. They have faith in him. And when you attack him for his malaprops, his jumbled syntax, it's good for us. Because you know what those folks don't like? They don't like you!'' In this instance, the final ''you,'' of course, meant the entire reality-based community.

    The bond between Bush and his base is a bond of mutual support. He supports them with his actions, doing his level best to stand firm on wedge issues like abortion and same-sex marriage while he identifies evil in the world, at home and abroad. They respond with fierce faith. The power of this transaction is something that people, especially those who are religious, tend to connect to their own lives.



    Fortunately (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Edger on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 11:11:44 AM EST
    the reality based "community" is no longer "outnumbered", and has become the overwhelming majority.

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    bush himself has called the shots in... (none / 0) (#13)
    by Bill Arnett on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 12:43:59 PM EST
    ...the bombing of TV stations and newspapers he doesn't like in Iraq.

    I would venture that many more press people have been killed by our military than the "insurgents", who prefer to kidnap journalists and then take the ransom money (like the two mil from Faux News) and use it to purchase more, better, and deadlier weapons than they could previously afford.

    No doubt in my mind that many journalists have been "disappeared" by this maladministrations murderous gang of thugs running the American Torture Prisons around the world.