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Rummy Gets The Message, Quits

Reported now. Rumsfeld resigns.

At least he understood the message of this election if other Republicans have not.

Is TailRunner Joe the replacement? To do that he would cost the Dems the Senate. Would Joe hurt the Dems like that? Stupid question. Of course he would.

Not Joe - Bush announces . . . Bob Gates as the replacement.

Joe must be heartbroken.

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    Dumsfeld... (none / 0) (#1)
    by desertswine on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:07:47 PM EST
    "I'm bustin', Jerry, bustin'."

    Mere resignation is too good for this guy.

    Bush is speaking (none / 0) (#2)
    by TomStewart on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:08:10 PM EST
    ...right now. He's cracking his usual smug little unfunny jokes, and outlinning plans he could have easily passed in the last few years, but never even atempted.

    Things change, Bush stays the same.

    The next step (none / 0) (#3)
    by theologicus on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:13:43 PM EST
    Now let him be brought to trial.  He belongs in the sme category as Pinochet.

    I disagree (none / 0) (#4)
    by scribe on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:14:28 PM EST
    I see the Rummy resignation as The Unit and Rover trying to seize control of the news cycle and get past the Democratic victory.

    I speculate this will play out like this:
    Rummy quits - no need for him to come testify before Congress because he's not in a position to do anything.  He'd be deemed to make a lousy witness anyway because he's so daffy when he answers questions.  And, he'd likely claim bad memory which couldn't be remedied by referring to documents because, now that he's out of office, he has no access to them.

    Nomination of successor to follow within minutes, or days, but to be brought up during the lame duck session.  This will preclude effective hearings before the Senate, and preclude hearings before the possibility of Senate changing control in six or eight weeks.  Bushie and his will argue it would be irresponsible to delay, given that we are at war, and equally irresponsible to not confirm his choice because he has the preznit's confidence.

    Who will be the successor?  Lieberman is my first choice.  That will preclude the Dems from taking control of the Senate because it will be split 50-50, allowing Deadeye to control everything there.  Rell will nominate a stalwart Repug for the slot - think poor Nancy Johnson or, in the event of a recount loss, Simmons.  
    Moreover, by restacking the deck that way, the Repugs can play the "qualifications of the members" game with Webb and Tester, when they win.

    I'd suspect Lieberman getting the job and thereby facilitating an (R) in his seat was the quid for the pro quo of all that Repug support through the campaign.

    While Addington is an outside choice, I get the feeling he's got too many questions to answer for torture, to get over that easily.  Plus, he's too transparently Cheney's man and has no senior executive experience.  

    Not that that matters to this crowd.

    To all those who were sleeping off last night, I
    told you they were still trying to steal this election.


    Ok, I guessed wrong (none / 0) (#5)
    by scribe on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:18:48 PM EST
    That Gates is the nominee still does not eliminate the hurry up and confirm him before the new Senate comes in, to avoid too many questions.

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    Re: OK... (none / 0) (#10)
    by desertswine on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:38:24 PM EST
    Gates is yet another Bush Family crony.

    Expect nothing.

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    Re: guessed wrong (none / 0) (#11)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:44:06 PM EST
    That may be, but your opening sentence still makes a lot of sense. Everything is about PR with him anyway, always has been. "Substance? Whazzat?"

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    Not relieved (none / 0) (#6)
    by roy on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:24:04 PM EST
    Given the shady operations launched by Bush against Americans as part of the "War on Terror", I'm not sure that appointing a former spook is going to be an improvement.

    And a former spook with alleged Iran Contra connections?  Playing a critical role in the Middle East?  Crap.

    Can't help himself (none / 0) (#8)
    by scribe on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:35:15 PM EST
    Listening to the news conference, Bushie can't help but lie, lie and lie about lying.

    Meta-lying.

    Though he admitted the election results were "a thumping".  Over and over.

    Commentary from WNYC on-line, sum and substance is "Bush would rather go to his father's team than to Nancy Pelosi's team, and rather that than admit defeat."

    It may be (none / 0) (#9)
    by Che's Lounge on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 12:36:35 PM EST
    that Daddy is coming to the rescue. Gates was DCI under Bush I. Between Gates and Jim Baker, the influence is noticeable. Roy is correct.

    Re: Daddy is coming to the rescue (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 01:32:32 PM EST
    I didn't think he'd leave, or that Bush would ask him to. I wonder which it really was, but I doubt Bush really asked him to. Rather Bush may have been told to get rid of Rumsfeld. I think Che has at least part of the answer.

    Couple of speculative questions here. Is Poppy trying to save what he can of his idiot son's presidency? Running the WH from the shadows?

    Daddy is coming... (none / 0) (#16)
    by desertswine on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:26:59 PM EST
    Yes, it seems obvious now the Rumsfeld was forced from office by whoever the hell is running the Republican party and in this case the country.  But who the hell is that? It sure isn't George W Bush.

    Daddy?

    May we never see another neo-con again. Except in the Hague of course.

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    Smoke and mirrors? (none / 0) (#13)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 01:41:57 PM EST
    I also wonder if I may have misread Joshua Muravchik's Operation Comeback memo to his fellow neocons the other day.

    In it he says of Rumsfeld:

    One area of neoconservative thought that needs urgent reconsideration is the revolution in military strategy that our neocon hero, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, has championed. This love affair with technology has left our armed forces short on troops and resources, just as our execrable intelligence in Iraq seems traceable, at least in part, to the reliance on machines rather than humans. Our forte is political ideas, not physics or mechanics. We may have seized on a technological fix to spare ourselves the hard slog of fighting for higher defense budgets. Let's now take up the burden of campaigning for a military force that is large enough and sufficiently well provisioned--however "redundant"--to assure that we will never again get stretched so thin. Let the wonder weapons be the icing on the cake.

    Muravchik's memo opens with this statement: "Neoconservatives have the president's ear, but they also have lots of baggage. To stay relevant, they must admit mistakes, embrace public diplomacy, and start making the case for bombing Iran."

    Was Bush told to get rid of Rumsfeld? Are we looking at smoke and mirrors?

    Secretary Joe (none / 0) (#14)
    by Peaches on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 01:57:47 PM EST
    Is TailRunner Joe the replacement? To do that he would cost the Dems the Senate. Would Joe hurt the Dems like that? Stupid question. Of course he would.

    I don't have much respect for Joe and I have heard others speculate on this, but why would Joe do this? It would get him nowhere. Who would want this job? least of all Joe? THis really seems like crazy speculation to me.

    Re: crazy speculation (none / 0) (#15)
    by Edger on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 02:07:05 PM EST
    Good point. Loserman is 64 years old. I would think he wants cushy at this point in life, not a superstressfull job that would eat him alive.

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    scapegoat card (none / 0) (#17)
    by jethroe on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:45:36 PM EST
    Rumsfeld has resigned several times previously, and Bush said no.  Rumsfeld's release was a scapegoat card held by Bush for a suitable occasion or emergency.  And here we are.

    Nice one, desertswine (none / 0) (#19)
    by Kitt on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:15:41 PM EST
    May we never see another neo-con again. Except in the Hague of course.

    Right on....

    No change (none / 0) (#20)
    by kdog on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:36:50 PM EST
    If it's not a change in policy...whats the difference?  Cut off a tentacle and one grows back

    Rumsfeld shouldn't be allowed to resign...he should be sent to the front to reap what he helped sow...and so should the lot of the bastards behind this bloody disgrace.  

    Do you think Rummy will ever be put on trial? (none / 0) (#22)
    by PJS on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 06:12:12 PM EST
    or have to face any sort of punitive justice for his misdeeds with respect to Iraq?