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Diebold's Demise?

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2006
Posted on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 02:23:22 PM EST
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Markos points out one of the more interesting stories of the day - the attack on electronic votong machines from allsides of the political spectrum:

Republicans are complaining about voting irregularities as loudly as we are today. A Republican governor, two Republican congressmen turned away from the polls. Votes supposedly switching in electronic voting machines in New Jersey. Complaints coming from New Mexico and elsewhere. Here's the bottom line -- no one trusts those machines anymore. And not only do they damage the integrity of our democracy, but they give losing campaigns an excuse to grandstand and further erode faith in our system. Paper ballots (or optical scan) is a solution, but it doesn't solve the problem of voter turnout, voter intimidation, the problems with inclement weather, and lack of voter education when entering the booth.

Pretty ironic.

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    Irony? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 02:39:39 PM EST
    Republicans are complaining about voting irregularities as loudly as we are today.

    They're now realizing that karma comes back to bite them on the a$$, and there's no getting around it.

    Took them awhile. Maybe some of them are "slow learners"?

    What complaining? (none / 0) (#2)
    by demohypocrates on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 03:13:08 PM EST
    Chabot (R-Oh) was turned away for not having proper ID:

    "I guess I'll see if I can find a utility bill," Chabot said. "That's the law. You have to have proper ID."

    Chabot returned about 10 minutes later with a bank statement and a Social Security Administration statement in hand.

    He went inside and voted quickly.

    "My wife told me to bring two documents just to be sure," Chabot said. "I guess this just shows the poll workers are really doing their job."

    Is that complaining?

    Gov. Sanford (R - SC):

    "We're gonna vote here shortly, it just may take a little bit longer than first anticipated. My registration card is in Columbia. We had the number, we could read it over the phone. But as a credit to the poll worker, she says, "That ain't enough, you gotta have the card." So we're gonna get those logistics worked through and I'll vote here shortly," said Sanford.

    What a real whiner?  Are these the complaints about voter irregularities?

    Heh (1.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 03:21:32 PM EST
    What's going on at Red State?

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    Nice job. (none / 0) (#5)
    by demohypocrates on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 03:44:34 PM EST
    In a post about across the board condemnation of electronic voting, you reference 2 Repubs. who did not complain about something which had nothing to do with electronic voting.  I have never stated that Repubs have not complained about electronic voting, my complaint is merely about lazy blogging.

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    Are you done now? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 03:58:40 PM EST
    In a post about across the board condemnation of electronic voting, you reference 2 Repubs. is what you accused Big Tent of, demo.

    Big Tent quoted Kos, who also, btw, did not claim that the 2 repubs he referred to "complained".

    My complaint here, demo, is merely about lazy blogging, you know?


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    A clown (1.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:12:33 PM EST
    W hat's the point?

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    A clown... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:15:59 PM EST
    ...with a fishing rod.


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    edger (none / 0) (#10)
    by demohypocrates on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:13:46 PM EST
    Please stop trying to split hairs with a chainsaw.  You dont have the talent for it.

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    You think you do? (1.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:24:55 PM EST
    You just chopped of your own leg.

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    One hand tied to the tightrope walker (Dylan) (none / 0) (#15)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:29:15 PM EST
    'A fool and his president are soon parted?'

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    complaints about voter irregularities? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Edger on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 03:30:06 PM EST
    These are.

    But I'm open minded. Maybe you're right, demohypocrates, and you can't find any republicans complaining at all about voting irregularities.

    Why do you think that might be?

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    I have seen complaints about (none / 0) (#6)
    by demohypocrates on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 03:49:16 PM EST
    voting irregularities in every different method of voting.  I have never stated the Repubs. hadnt complained about electronic voting.  Please wait until someone makes an argument before you try and rebut it.  Big Tent should thank me for pointing out the weakness in the post.

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    Yes you did (1.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:11:26 PM EST
    That's exactly what you   said.

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    You're like Jim, with a faster keyboard (none / 0) (#12)
    by roy on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:24:24 PM EST
    nt

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    Not a serious comment (1.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:25:38 PM EST
    obviously.

    Makes me think less of you Roy.

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    Should have kept my bits to myself, but... (none / 0) (#16)
    by roy on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 04:53:37 PM EST
    ...this is your thread, and apparently you think blogging style is a fair subject here.

    Re-read Demo's and your comments.  He's making fairly straightforward factual assertions, and you're attacking a straw man.

    If you honestly read the assertion that particular quotes from particular Republicans are not complaints about e-voting as an assertion that Republicans are not complaining about e-voting, then I apologize.  Jim's dishonest, and you're just plain wrong.

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    Reread MY POST (1.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 05:28:12 PM EST
    and then read his comment.

    His factual assertions are red herrings.

    Your critique obtuse.

    I do think less of you now Roy. You're not as smart as I thought you were.

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