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Steve Clemons is a very smart man and he wrote a very stupid post on Marshall Wittman of all people. Steve needs to get out of Washington more if he believes this:

What those heaping scorn on Wittman are missing, however, is what his employment by Lieberman really means. When political giants tie up, it's not an accident.

Lieberman's acquisition of Marshall Wittman, who is very close to John McCain, signals a calculation by some that McCain and Lieberman might tie up for the 2008 Presidential run. The progressive left will start choking at this point, coughing and convulsing uncontrollably -- but reason needs to be gripped for a moment.

McCain and Lieberman would be a formidable challenge for any Democratic opponent because even though both are now self-described neoconservatives and strongly supported America's botched war against Iraq, to many pundits they would "seem like" the very epitome of centrism.

John McCain is having enough trouble convincing the GOP base he is one of them. Marshall Wittman does not help. And neither does Joe Lieberman. David Broder does not decide who the GOP nominee will be. And I guarantee you that McCain is not a fool who will run as an independent. Lieberman and Wittman may be stupid enough to believe he will. It surprises me that on this narrow point, Clemons seems as obtuse as they.

The rest of Clemons fluff piece on Wittman is frankly embarrassing to Steve. I think the less said the better. I'll prefer to forget Steve wrote this clunker.

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    oh my, that is too................. (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by cpinva on Fri Nov 24, 2006 at 12:52:29 AM EST
    hysterically funny! "used to be straight talk" mccain, and "transparent opportunist" lieberman, together on any ticket, other than a train to political oblivion?

    the whole concept is an inspired piece of comedic handiwork, nearly worthy of the marx brothers in their prime:

    watch, while mccain trips over all three feet, as he changes positions by the minute! see the six foot tall, multi-sided mouth of lieberman, as he talks in a full 360!

    this would be better than any made-for-tv reality freak show that hollywood could come up with.

    they wouldn't win anything, of course, but it could be mighty damn entertaining to watch them stumble over each other.

    whatever was that guy smoking, and where can i get some?

    GOP does what they're told (none / 0) (#1)
    by Matt Stoller on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 03:11:12 PM EST
    The GOP base is not conservative and principled as one might assume, it is authoritarian in nature.  They will vote for McCain if instructed to do so.  GW Bush was not seen as the 'conservative' choice in 2000, he was the establishment choice.  Do not place your bet on the GOP base voter doing what you hope they will do.

    Told to do so (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 03:59:33 PM EST
    Well, that is possible.

    I am confident Joe Lieberman won't be on McCain's ticket.

    Making for me at least, this a very dumb post from Clemons.

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    some change?? (none / 0) (#4)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 08:57:29 PM EST
    I don't follow many posts, no matter their politics..

    I think McCain and Leiberman might bring some change. Heaven knows the run of the mill Leftie  or Rightie won't.

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    correction (none / 0) (#5)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 08:58:04 PM EST
    make that blogs instead of posts

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    GOP base obeys? (none / 0) (#3)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 05:55:46 PM EST
    Ahhhh, no. If you doubt me, what do you think happened a few weeks ago.

    McCain and Liebrman would be very electable, but they can't get the nomination.

    Now if Lieberman declared himseld a Repb, NOW, it would be a very different thing.

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    Republican base (4.00 / 1) (#6)
    by killer on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 09:53:19 PM EST
    Jim, I think I remember most of the polls saying that both the Dem and Rep bases held together, and it was the Indies that made the difference. I have heard some feedback about Limbaugh's admission, and it was that they do as they are told and expect those doing the telling to have the best interests of America in mind. Very dissapointed to find out they were being told to support people that Rush later said were losers. Not the best analogy, but I think it shows that the Republican base wants to trust it's leadership to tell them what is right.  

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    Killer (none / 0) (#9)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Nov 24, 2006 at 08:44:23 AM EST
    I'll have to take your word on what Rush said. Evidently you listen to him. I don't.

    And you should really quit paying attention to exit polls.... I mean if they were accurate in FL Kerry would have won in a landslide.

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    If these two keep vascillating so fast... (none / 0) (#10)
    by Bill Arnett on Fri Nov 24, 2006 at 12:48:08 PM EST
    ...from one position to another they could run as "The Tuning Fork Twins"!