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    Social Security (none / 0) (#1)
    by john horse on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:44:50 PM EST
    One core value of Democrats that comes easily to mind is Social Security.  Whether liberal, conservative, or moderate, almost all Democrats support Social Security.  As a matter of fact, it was this unity that helped to defeat Bush's effort to privatize it.  I say almost all Democrats because I live in the district of the only Democratic congressman to openly support privatization.  He backed off in part because of the angry reaction he got from his constituents in the town meetings he held.  If by core value you mean something that is widely held and deeply supported, then Social Security is definitely a core value of Democrats.

    The Trouble With Social Security (none / 0) (#21)
    by terry hallinan on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 07:03:48 PM EST
    Taking money from poor people to give to rich people may not be the greatest idea in the world.

    Privatization compounds a festering problem.

    Why do liberals ignore or even deny the facts?  It is the flip side of the hilarious Libertarian idea of buying out the old folks imaginary ownership of Social Security.  Even the Libertarians could not rid themselves of Social Security delusions or had to evade the truth.

    In truth there is no lockbox a la Al Gore, no surplus, nothing but IOU's that can only be redeemed by taxes.  Those getting the greatest benefit are those sucking the most benefit out of the trough while the little pigs get the least.  All money comes from wages on workers.

    Though surely society has a responsibility to provide for the aged members of society, it is not a notably excellent idea to burden most those least able to provide for their own welfare.

    Best,  Terry

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    Fundamental core? (none / 0) (#2)
    by Edger on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:49:00 PM EST
    I think that the core values of any political party of whatever persuasion need to be based on an ideal "core value" by which all other "core values" are measured.

    It is my opinion that that fundamental core value must be that to be lasting and real and viable in the long term political power must be acquired by setting forth guiding principles that a party intends to follow in all of it's actions.

    And that a party must set up an accountability committee answerable to law to hold it's own feet to the fire by continual measurement during election campaigns so that parties do not throw their principles out the window simply to acquire power.

    It may also be a good idea to legislate that parties must adhere to that fundamental value.

    These are pretty idealistic ideas, I'll admit. But so what? America was founded on ideals.

    I'm not describing this well, I feel. But I think it is obvious where I'm trying to go here.

    Who knows... (none / 0) (#3)
    by Edger on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 06:17:52 PM EST
    This has been done before, btw, and who knows, this thread might become an excercise in something like...

    "The wise man travels to discover himself."
    --James Lowell Miller

    ...but then again, something new and good might come out of this, on which everyone can agree.

    It happened before, more than 200 years ago.

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    Well (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:00:39 PM EST
    It was your idea.

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    I know... (none / 0) (#6)
    by Edger on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:09:00 PM EST
    ...I wanted to see what would happen. ;-)

    Scary topic? Why? The people who wrote the Constitution were just people. They weren't gods.

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    Core values? (none / 0) (#5)
    by Che's Lounge on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:04:15 PM EST
    Read the effing Bill of Rights for starters.

    foreign policy guidelines (none / 0) (#7)
    by Edger on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:23:09 PM EST
    Abide by treaties and international agreements. No unilateral military actions against other countries except in response to overt attack.

    Electronic Voting - we need a paper trail (none / 0) (#8)
    by avahome on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:48:51 PM EST
    2006 is the third election in a row shadowed by questions about the integrity of voting machines, something most Americans never dreamed could happen. Together we can make the 2006 election the tipping point--the moment when demand for an auditable, verifiable voting system forced Congress to act.

    We must act now, while the nation's attention is focused on this issue.

    Urge your Senator to support legislation for paper trails and random audits for ALL electronic ballots.

    http://scoop.epluribusmedia.org/story/2006/11/13/14556/731

    Look for and sign the petition....now!

    a 10 minute talk to High schoolers. (none / 0) (#9)
    by msobel on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:04:43 PM EST
    Next Friday, I am giving a 10 minute talk representing the Boulder Dems at a High School class.
    Soundbite: Balance between the Few and the Many
    Dems defend the Many, Republicans act for the few

    Elevator Speech:
    Social and Economic Justice
    International Cooperation and Leadership
    Civic Responsibility

    I actually read some interesting links.
    http://dnc.org/a/party/history.html

    Why conservatives can't govern.

    The United States, as the political scientist Louis Hartz argued in the 1950s, was born liberal. We fought for our independence against Great Britain and the conservatism that flourished there. In Europe, a conservative was someone who defended the traditions of the monarchy, justified the privileges of the nobility, and welcomed the intervention of a state-affiliated clergy in politics. But all those things would be tossed out by the revolutionaries who led the war for independence and then wrote the Constitution. We chose to have an elected president, not an anointed monarch. Our Constitution prohibited the granting of titles of nobility. We separated church and state.
    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.wolfe.html

    Spending Millions to Save Billions
    The Campaign of the Super Wealthy to Kill the Estate Tax
    http://www.citizen.org/documents/EstateTaxFinal.pdf

    High schoolers (none / 0) (#14)
    by cjkinsey on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 10:03:17 PM EST
    Excellent, I just wanted to say I like this, and I think that is awesome that you will go speak to a high school class.


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    Core Values (none / 0) (#10)
    by kindlingman on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:34:33 PM EST
    Integrity, Pragmatism, and Social Justice

    i like to think.............. (none / 0) (#11)
    by cpinva on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:47:18 PM EST
    that the core value of the democratic party is that all, citizen and non-citizen alike, should be treated equally, with respect, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion. that the constitution is there to safeguard the rights of the minority, not as a bludgeon for the majority.

    that every member of our society has responsibilities, as well as rights. that any law should pass "the greatest good for the country" test, before being voted on. that you can't legislate morality, and that's not government's job. that the government's job is to protect the citizens, not abuse them

    i could go on, but you get the point, and it would get boring.

    Core values (none / 0) (#12)
    by WiB on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 09:57:34 PM EST
    Civil rights
    Civil liberties
    Privacy
    The rule of law
    Transparency in government
    Government has a role for good
    The rights of private citizens over those of corporations
    U.S. as a responsible member of the world community

    Core Values (none / 0) (#13)
    by cjkinsey on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 09:59:11 PM EST
    I think the core values should be commmunity and the recognition of our interdependency.

    When we take responsibility for ourselves, our families, and our extended brothers and sisters, we will truly raise our standards. Then everyone can reach an even higher potential. When we respect the efforts of all workers and their pay is proportionate to the CEO's, we will excel.
    When respect for the earth dictates our decisions more than profit, we will excel.

    CV (none / 0) (#15)
    by Joe Bourgeois on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 10:41:29 PM EST
    Liberty and justice for all.
    And that means all.  Starting with all Americans, expanding, as soon as possible, to all human beings everywhere.

    I'd like to add (none / 0) (#16)
    by aw on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:03:57 PM EST
    A healthy, educated citizenry, with safety nets for the less fortunate.

    Ethics... (none / 0) (#17)
    by Quaker in a Basement on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:49:47 PM EST
    ...and ethics again.

    Working People (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 12:32:45 AM EST
    Core values should be to help the working poor. Make college and health care affordable/available to all.

    And get rid of the culture of corruption and legalized bribery in D.C. that is destroying the fabric of this country. Work towards 100% publicly financed campaigns.

    humor (none / 0) (#19)
    by chemoelectric on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 12:57:53 AM EST
    I think good humor would be good after all these years. The 'Republicans' have been so grim and preachy. I think the Democrats should distribute whoopie cushions and joy buzzers at early caucus meetings.

    I think also they should explicitly recognize that there is no such thing as an independent human being, that we are all dependent on each other, as the Worldwide Climate Catastrophe makes clear, and we must work together just to survive, even more so to flourish; and we should strive to flourish, not just a few individuals, but all of us.

    And we should make a massive investment in basic sciences.

    re (none / 0) (#20)
    by Deconstructionist on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 07:08:46 AM EST

      That it is the duty of government to provide for the needs of society that the powerful private interests cannot (or at least will not) provide.

      That we recognize that government solutions to problems (be it health care, safe and affordable housing housing, education, basic financial security...) cannot be prefected but that we believe that imperfect solutions are far better than ignoring or denying real needs.

      That it is fundamentally unfair for the advantaged to preach a mantra of "personal responsibility" as an excuse for neglecting needs when we know that many are denied the tools necessary  to succeed.