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Kerry Fumbles Iraq Comment

John Kerry flubbed a live statement on Iraq. Here's the video.

What Kerry meant to say:

"I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just Ask President Bush." - Senator John Kerry.

What Kerry said:

If you make the most of it, if you study hard and do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well, if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq.

Here's Kerry's official statement castigating those who are castigating him.

Of all people it would be wrong to accuse of not supporting the troops, John Kerry is at the top of the list. It's a side issue people, a distraction, let's move on.

Republicans and their supporters will jump at anything this last week to mitigate their upcoming losses. Balloon Juice explains how it works.

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    So... (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by roy on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:50:43 PM EST
    He's saying if you don't do good in school, you'll become President?

    GW Was no Student (1.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:59:48 PM EST
    George Bush didn't do too well in school.

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    I got a C in Orientation, can I be a senator? (1.00 / 1) (#9)
    by roy on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 04:12:30 PM EST
    I know Dubya was mediocre, I just think it's funny that Kerry intended to send such a weird message.

    Study hard, or else... you'll become the leader of the free world.

    I hope Kerry runs in '08, I miss his screw-ups.


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    Better grades (2.00 / 1) (#17)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 05:01:37 PM EST
    Did Bush have better grades?

    I think he did...

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    You're a Republican right? (1.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 04:19:31 PM EST
    Then you are overqualified.

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    Nope (3.00 / 1) (#14)
    by roy on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 04:33:18 PM EST
    Independent.  Glad to support the GOP when I think they're right, glad to support the DNC under the same conditions.

    Y'know, not everyone who says something you don't like is a Republican or on the "other side" in your partisan war.

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    So...Proof the remark is wrong (1.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Patrick on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 04:15:50 PM EST
    Is that Kerry's excuse too?  Or is just more proof that Kerry doesn't know what he was talking about.  

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    I like John Cole's take (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:56:37 PM EST
    Balloon Juice:

    See- you just have to vote Republican now:

        John Kerry said what?!

        By Michelle Malkin · October 31, 2006 12:32 AM

        **10/31 7:35am updated with more reax below...

        ...909am update San Gabriel Valley Tribune/Pasadena Star News reports on the Angelides campaign event at Pasadena City College where Kerry trashed the troops..."Kerry then told the students that if they were able to navigate the education system, they could get comfortable jobs - "If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq," he said to a mixture of laughter and gasps."**

    A general rule of thumb regarding controversies like this is to count how many posts Michelle Malkin has about the issue, and to note that there is a positive correlation to how trivial the matter is and how many posts she has about it. At my last count, she had four on her site, two on her spin-off site Hot Air (who I still think ripped their name off from me). That would tell me that this issue would be somewhere between Cindy Sheehan and crescent-shaped 9/11 memorials and Terri Schaivo in importance, but the possibility is there for a new record.

    Predictably, lamentably, the right-wing blogosphere is grievously insulted and has put the grass-roots outrage machine in high gear. Expect record levels of umbrage from all corners.

    I wish Kerry had not made the remark (even though he was trying to insult the President and not the troops), but I do find it a little amusing that the people who are `upset' about this remark managed (if my memory is correct) to remain completely silent about this:

    I am sure we all remember the Bush supporters wearing fake purple heart stickers at the 2004 RNC to mock Kerry's service. Additionally, I note that Malkin and company have not yet moved to condemn the treatment Vietnam war hero Jim Webb is getting at the hands of Red State, where he has been compared to John Mark Karr and today called a pervert.



    Yep, one misstatement by Kerry = all of bush's (3.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Sailor on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 04:44:13 PM EST
    For all those who say Bush is a moron let us now put to rest the idea that Kerry is smarter then the president.
    Here's bush and here's Kerry:
    My statement yesterday -- and the White House knows this full well -- was a botched joke about the president and the president's people, not about the troops. The White House's attempt to distort my true statement is a remarkable testament to their abject failure in making America safe. It's a stunning statement about their willingness to reduce anything America, the raw politics. It's their willingness to distort, their willingness to mislead Americans, their willingness to exploit the troops as they have so many times at backdrops, at so many speeches in which they have not told the American people the truth.

    I'm not going to stand for it. What our troops deserve is a winning strategy, and what they deserve is leadership that is up to the sacrifice that they're making. Sadly, this is the best that this administration can do in a month when we have lost 100 young men and women who have given their lives for a failed policy. Over half the names on the Vietnam wall were put there after our leaders knew that our policy was wrong, and it was wrong that leaders were quiet then, and I'm not going to be quiet now. This is a textbook Republican campaign strategy: try to change the topic, try to make someone else the issue, try to make something else said the issue, not the policy, not their responsibility.

    Kerry's misspoken joke isn't the issue, but rethugs who have trashed the economy, persist in an illegal war and can't find OBL is.

    Kerry's supposed "gaffe"? (3.00 / 1) (#23)
    by oldtree on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 07:36:07 PM EST
    it seems pretty clear now he was referring to the chimp.  Is that the fact?

    What ever (2.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Patrick on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:41:19 PM EST
    I guess he said it before he didn't say.  

    This is so not a story anyway, but now it might get some attention.  

    Telegenic nitwit (2.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jaf on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 04:29:50 PM EST
    I have trouble now remembering why I supported (and contributed 3X to) John Kerry. He is a stiff. When everyone who was paying attention saw that '04 would be decided in Ohio, Kerry couldn't be bothered to send extra poll watchers in to assure an honest count. When the Swiftbags slimed him, he tried to ignore them and was perceived to be weak and ineffectual. And rather than putting everything into the campaign, he held on to $8M, FOR WHAT?????

    Just stupid (1.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Slado on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:44:50 PM EST
    For all those who say Bush is a moron let us now put to rest the idea that Kerry is smarter then the president.

    Like all things if he just says it was a mistake and then ignores the firestorm it will go away.

    Instead he will issue silly partisan responses and this will take on a life of it's own.

    Nobody misquoted him.  Why shouldn't republicans get mad about this?

    Save the comments that what he says is true etc... and admit that this was a major screw-up and the words can't be taken back.  

    Time for "smart" damage control.

    Re (1.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Deconstructionist on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:45:52 PM EST
      Come off it. He meant exactly what he said. Study and you can have a good career or goof off and you'll be one of the unfortunates for whom the military is the only way to get out.

      Rather than telling absurd lies why not defend what he said as while perhaps not being the most politic thing to say as containing more than a kernel of truth.

      It only  compounds any problem caused by the original statement to tell woefully transparent lies about what he meant.  I'd much prefer someone who has the guts to stand by an unpopular truth than a mealy-mouthed politician who lies to me when he realizes some  take offense.

     

    Could be (1.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:58:12 PM EST
    In which case, Kerry is truly an idiot.

    But the case might be as Jeralyn describes.

    In which case, Kerry proves himself a fairly inept politician again.

    In either case, who cares?

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    Who cares? Millions (2.00 / 1) (#16)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 05:00:32 PM EST
    Who cares?

    How about all those military people who did study, who did work hard and who did join up to defend the country.

    You know Big Tent, you don't even understand that some people think it important. So important they will die for it.

    That is who cares and the millions like them who know that Kerry was calling them stupid for doing what they do.

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    Like you give a crap about the victims (none / 0) (#24)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 09:53:59 PM EST
    How about all those military people who did study, who did work hard and who did join up to defend the country.

    Indeed, how about 'em? Let's take a look:
    If they are killed, their remains will be snuck back home under cover of darkness, to be given a free funeral only if their families agree to have some Pentagon propaganda emblazoned on their tombstones. If they survive they will see veterans benefits cut again and again by the same weasels that tell us to support the troops.

    In short, they are getting royally screwed by you and the rest of the Republican Party.

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    The payoff (1.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 03:51:01 PM EST

    Don't you wonder what Rove had to pay Kerry for that?

    In response to Decon, folks in the military are better educated than their age cohort.  BTW, same is true for Vietnam vets.

    Yes (1.00 / 1) (#20)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 06:47:25 PM EST
    I'm not sure about Vietnam era, but that is definitely true about present day military folks.

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    No matter what he said damn if he ain't right. (none / 0) (#18)
    by Lww on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 05:08:55 PM EST
    He's a stiff and a fraud, who lives in a cocoon of hundreds of millions of dollars, yet he tells the truth.

    From his initial statement to his defense of his remarks he was telling the truth, they were both true.

    Is anyone in here gonna deny that alot of people who go into the military and die in Iraq are victims of missed opportunities or a lack of money to pursue a college education?

    Is anyone in here gonna deny that Iraq is the cluster&uck of the new century and Bush and his cohorts are responsible?

    nailed it (2.00 / 1) (#21)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 07:07:53 PM EST
    Couldn't agree more lww.

    Kerry blew it again...he should stand by the statement.  If you're from limited means, get good enough grades to get a scholarship, lest you join