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    I can't breath (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 02:57:58 PM EST
    Haven't seen this mentioned here

    Barr over rules his civil rights division

    The fact that the only person from this episode who is in jail is the guy who took the video pretty much tells you all you need to know.

    William Barr's actions (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 03:41:16 PM EST
    should take the nation's breath away. And, the officer, Daniel Pantaleo, is still on the NYC police force.

    Barr is carrying on as well on other fronts: The feds have ended the probe into hush money payments prior to the election/campaign finance violations related to Story Daniels and Karen McDougal.

    Since it appears that a Trump impeachment inquiry is not in the cards, there really does not seem to be any downside to opening impeachment inquires at lower ranks, from Barr down to Supervisory officers overseeing the squalid conditions and inhumane treatment of asylum seekers at the border.

    Attorney General Barr's role in the citizenship census fiasco, along with that of Wilbur Ross, needs to be investigated by the House. The presentation of "contrived" (i.e., false) information to the Supreme Court, and the shifting rationale presented for expedited hearing by the Supreme Court are among issues to be looked into. Contempt of Congress is going pretty slow, if it is going at all.

     Maybe, if we can't impeach high, we should start impeaching low. A chilling effect might result for those claiming to be just following orders. There will be individualized accountability. Trump may skate, but you will be the fall guy.


    The House voted to (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 05:35:07 PM EST
    hold two sitting cabinet officers in criminal contempt of congress for obstructing a probe into the administration's failed attempt to include a citizenship question on the 2020 Census form.  Barr and Ross withheld documents that that been subpoenaed.  The vote was 230 to 198, all Republicans and four Democrats voted no; Amash (l independent) and 229 Democrats voted yes.

    Barr had urged Speaker Pelosi to postpone the vote, shortly before the vote went to the full House.  A pretty serious action. Barr should be dis-barred, in my view.


    Tomorrow morning (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 08:30:09 PM EST
    Just before the Epstein show a judge in NY is unsealing all the previously sealed information around the hush money case Barr just shut down.  Including information the government wanted to keep sealed for the protection of "third parties".  The judge refused.  All of it is being released.  

    Could be good.  11 eastern.  Epstein 11:30


    Can't believe (none / 0) (#9)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 09:26:46 PM EST
    Barr will not be up early to throw some legal monkey wrench into the judge's decision.  

    Killer Heat (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 02:48:35 PM EST
    `Off-the-charts' heat to affect millions in U.S. in coming decades

    Without any action to reduce global carbon emissions, parts of Florida and Texas would experience the equivalent in days of at least five months per year on average when the heat index--which includes humidity in its calculations--exceeds 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Most of those days will surpass 105 degrees before the end of the century.

    Right now, here, the heat index is 113.  It's so humid my one single pane window is steamed up on the outside.

    House votes to table (none / 0) (#4)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 05:17:32 PM EST
    Congressman Al Green's (D TX)article of impeachment--voting to table: Dem. 137 yea,95 nay, l present, 2 n.v.
    Rep. 194 yea, 0 nay, 3 n.v.
    Ind. l yea.
    Lopsided vote, but maybe a look at things to come.

    And, Judiciary Chair Nadler, was among the 95 nays. Nadler's spokesperson said the Chairman voted against killing the bill because it should have first come to his committee for consideration.

    I think it probably should have (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 05:33:47 PM EST
    That said, not sure Al's resolution was well timed or considered.

    Just that after all the illegal unconstitutional stuff he has done impeaching him because he said some dumb racist things sort of tends to detract from the real problems.

    Not that the president saying dumb racist things is not a problem but conspiring with a hostile foreign power to win an election, among other things, is way worse and that should be the center of anything that proceeds.


    Ran across this (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 07:06:21 PM EST
    It seems to explain a lot

    Unskilled and unaware of it: How difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.
    © Request Permissions
    Kruger, Justin,Dunning, David
    Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Vol 77(6), Dec 1999, 1121-1134
    People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of the participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.

    "Send her back" (none / 0) (#10)
    by MKS on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 10:59:01 PM EST
    Godwin's law has been repealed for Trump, no?

    These rallies do have a precedent.

    Clearly the new boogy person (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 06:40:29 AM EST
    There is a thing going around about her that I will not repeat that I hope is not true.  Not because I think there is anything terribly wrong with what she is accused of doing but because it's the kind of thing that could allow them to destroy her public life.  Which would be a tragedy.

    Snopes lists it as "unproven".

    It's the kind of thing that could give them cover for this vile behavior.

    Trump repeated it in one of his driveway performances.  Probably other times.  Seems like a pretty easy thing to "prove" if true.  And if it is Trump will try to destroy her.  And it might work.


    Lucky for tRump (none / 0) (#12)
    by jmacWA on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 06:44:16 AM EST
    that he got one of the 'fake' news organizations to pose the question to him as he 'just happened' to be leaving for his rally.  Talk about setting up the chant for the evening... unfcuking believable