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This government shutdown needs to end.

Michael Cohen is not hot. But I welcome his testimony on Feb. 7 and hope he confirms that he paid paid to doctor polls advancing Trump's nascent candidacy. Author Kurt Eichenwald breaks it all down. Cohen has confirmed the Wall St. Journal story on Twitter. The NY Times has more.

I've still got too much work to blog, probably until tomorrow afternoon or Saturday.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    I think the Cohen testimony (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 03:16:29 PM EST
    Is going to be pretty earth shaking.

    It Wil put a face on the abstract.

    As far as Cheeto cancelling The congressional trip, it is so desperate and petulant it would be funny if it wasn't so incredibly stupid.

    Any high ground he might have had is so out the window.

    Just got a bit more interesting (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 09:30:36 PM EST
    Perhaps I'm stating the obvious here, but (5.00 / 4) (#20)
    by Peter G on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 11:13:55 PM EST
    subornation of perjury is felony. And which is without question an impeachable offense.

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    Yes, it's stating the obvious. (none / 0) (#24)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 04:33:36 AM EST
    But in this instance, given that 62.9 million Americans oh so casually chucked common sense out their car windows in 2016 while racing their way to the polls to vote for this malevolent trust-fund brat, I'm afraid the obvious really can't be stated and restated enough.

    ;-D

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    William Barr agrees (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:28:42 AM EST
    Also this (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 08:08:02 AM EST
    Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump was startled Tuesday as he watched television coverage of his nominee for attorney general describing a warm relationship with the special counsel Robert Mueller in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, according to three people familiar with the matter.

    During the first day of his confirmation hearing, William Barr described telling the President the first time he met him in June 2017 that he was friends with Mueller, referring to him on a first name basis.
    "I told him how well I knew Bob Mueller and that the Barrs and Muellers were good friends and would be good friends when this was all over," Barr said. "Bob is a straight-shooter and should be dealt with as such."
    While Barr said during his hearing that Trump "was interested" in hearing about the friendship, the details that emerged this week caught the President off guard, the three sources said. He bristled at Barr's description of the close relationship, complaining to aides he didn't realize how much their work overlapped or that they were so close.



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    Can a President (none / 0) (#28)
    by Zorba on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 08:49:10 AM EST
    Withdraw a nominee once the confirmation hearings have begun?
    I would think he could, although it would make that President look like a fool.
    (Not hard to do with the current POTUS.)

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    It's said (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 09:56:43 AM EST
    Ms Barr and Ms Mueller do bible study together.

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    Yes, without question (none / 0) (#32)
    by Peter G on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 01:07:11 PM EST
    a nominee can withdraw, and a President can withdraw a nominee.

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    From a standpoint of protocol, ... (none / 0) (#37)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 04:28:47 PM EST
    ... the White House can pull a nomination any time the president pleases, because while senior appointed positions often require Senate confirmation, the persons who occupy those posts serve strictly at the pleasure of the chief executive.

    But as a matter of practice, the only time such nominations tend to be pulled are those instances when said nominee clearly does not have the requisite number of votes in the Senate to be confirmed.

    Aloha.


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    I have wondered (none / 0) (#31)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 12:26:01 PM EST
    If Barr's job is to try to salvage the Republican Party.  Trump's fate is secondary and probably recognized as a lost cause---providing a defense as best he can.  That Barr audition memo (that was so long it ceased being a memo and entered essay territory) was curious, if not odd.  But, it hooked Trump.  And, Barr got the job he did so well 30 years ago...he saved the Republican Party.  Bill Clinton probably saved Daddy Bush by defeating him in the next election.  It is, as if, the Republican high rollers demanded an updated performance to be known as "Don't Let the F.....g moron with the wig let us go the way of the Whigs".   Maybe, even, a part of bible study.

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    I saw Laurence Tribe (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 03:26:37 PM EST
    Hopefully speculating Barr, in tap dancing around things like recusal, was doing what he had to do to keep Trump on board.

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    Yes, even (none / 0) (#10)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 04:24:51 PM EST
    Lindsey,  of the Kavanaugh hearing temper tandrum,  called  Trump' s petulance---childish.  Trump should not be so bothered by not having a place to give the State of the Union.  Surely the Grand Kremlin Palace could be made avaiable. After all, secret back channel systems were to be made available in the Russian Embassy for Trump.

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    I'm busy thinking food (5.00 / 4) (#3)
    by Zorba on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 03:29:38 PM EST
    Last night I made some very tasty shrimp salad.  Whole shrimp, mayonnaise, some lemon juice, finely grated lemon zest, chopped fresh basil, Old Bay seasoning.  (Don't overdo the basil and Old Bay.)  We served it on nice croissants.

    Tonight, an artichoke heart and bacon quiche.

    ... can troll Trump and his white wingbat chumps as brutally but effectively as Aeromexico, the flagship airline of our immediate neighbors south of the border, I've yet to see it. That carrier's latest online ad, in which it offers "DNA discounts" on air fares to an odd assortment of rubes in Wharton, TX, is friggin' hilarious: "Yeah, I'd go to Mexico, if they had Taco Bells on the street corners down there."

    Currently experiencing (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 11:16:42 AM EST
    A fabulous and beautiful snow storm.  Fire going.  Bong going.  Cream of celery and garlic soup going.

    I for one welcome our polar vortex overlords

    Check (5.00 / 2) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 11:36:33 AM EST
    I'm glad (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 03:03:13 PM EST
    to see for some strange reason that I'm not the only one around here with a double posting problem.

    Totally unpolitical (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 03:35:37 PM EST
    I made, for Mr. Zorba and me, cucumber martinis.
    Mulled cucumbers, a tiny bit of agave syrup, and Hendricks Gin.  Oh, my.  Really good.
    And I made some venison chili, with some canned tomatoes, but mostly coffee and unsweetened chocolate.  Somewhat similar to mole, and tasty.

    Lots of people are still buzzing ... (5.00 / 1) (#102)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 12:43:11 AM EST
    ... about the video shot by local researchers of "Deep Blue," the 20-foot-plus female great white shark that showed up in waters off Honolulu this week. She's supposedly the largest great white ever photographed or recorded, and as the state legislature convened this week, there are now several bills being introduced to afford greater protections for Hawaii's sharks and rays.

    Glad to hear the buzz is positive (none / 0) (#110)
    by McBain on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 10:56:50 AM EST
    The food fight continues (none / 0) (#1)
    by ragebot on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 02:22:09 PM EST
    To expand on an earlier thread... (none / 0) (#4)
    by McBain on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 03:49:32 PM EST
    I recently cancelled my Comcast TV/DVR service.  I still pay for their internet and home phone service.  ($96/month).  So far, so good.  I'm able to watch just about everything I want on Netflix ($12/month) and a few other streaming channels I get for free.  

    The only thing I was really watching on Comcast TV was mostly horrible cable news (CNN/Fox). I can stream Reuters news and other updates for free and I can still read all the over the top opinion stuff online.  

    I might sign up for Amazon Prime soon ($13/month) to watch a few shows and have a decent musical selection for my Alexa.  When Game of Thrones comes out I'll pay ($15/month) to stream HBO for a month or so.  Maybe, I'll alternate between Prime and HBO.  All totaled up, I'll be paying about $130/month.  

    I'm curious what other people pay for TV/internet/home home?  I'm also thinking about getting rid of my home phone.  Anyone done that yet?  

    My problem has been (none / 0) (#6)
    by CST on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 03:56:27 PM EST
    That they essentially bundle all of the pricing for cable into internet now.

    It was something like $90 just for internet and another $5-10 for basic cable.  So I kept basic cable.  Although the last time I was personally responsible for sorting it out was a few years ago, since then I've lived with someone who had full cable and it just got lumped in as "their bill" to take care of.

    I haven't had a land line since high school.

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    Basic cable (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 04:06:37 PM EST
    Is not that cheap any more.  It's about 25 bucks or so at least in these parts and it's worthless.

    You get local channels and usually shopping and religious channels.  Why would you even bother.

    I have always had premium cable cable because it's worth it to me.  I never (ever) watch network tv.  Although FOX has a new show I might be hooked on.

    Generally, I have done them all, you can get premium cable and broadband for around 200.  They will list it for less but by the time you pay for all the small print and taxes that's what it's going to be.

    I recently switched to Directv.  I try to switch every couple of years, less without a contract, because you can get introductory offers.  Which is what I just did. I got top of the line cable for 77 bucks a months, for three months, then about 100 for a year, then about 130.

    I have excellent broadband coaxial for 55 a month, for a year, then it will be 65.


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    PS (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 04:22:04 PM EST
    They push bundling but in general you don't save that much.  The package I got got rid of was cable and internet and the saving was 10 bucks off the internet bill off a total bill that was 200-230 depending on PPVs

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    I haven't had a landline (none / 0) (#11)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 06:33:19 PM EST
    For 13 years.

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    I love my landline. (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by leap on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 07:55:03 PM EST
    The sound/voice quality is so superior to any cell phone from which I've ever had a call. Also, too, it still works when the power goes out. The connection doesn't just disappear--poof, gone!-- in the middle of a conversation, either.

    I do have a TracFone<sup>TM</sup>®© for travel, because it's getting harder and harder to find a phone booth with a working phone.

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    Funny (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 06:43:45 PM EST
    The reason I know it's been 25 years, doesn't seem that long, is that I moved from Boston to LA right in the middle of the Northridge earthquake.  Which I just read happened 25 years ago on the 17th.

    The last land line I had was in my apt in Boston.

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    I used my landline quite a bit in my (none / 0) (#13)
    by McBain on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 06:45:13 PM EST
    old home office set up.  It was better for speaker phone calls when dealing with customer service.  I also like having a landline in my bedroom for emergencies (don't like having a cell phone in the bedroom)  but it's probably time to join the 21st century and get rid of it.    

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    An interesting conversation (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 03:56:03 PM EST
    about Oumuamua

    Which is one of the most interesting science  stories in a long time.

    PS
    I haven't had "home phone" in 25 years

    Run! They're going to eat us. (none / 0) (#16)
    by desertswine on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 09:57:23 PM EST
    Not so fast. (none / 0) (#8)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 04:12:26 PM EST
    The owner of Chicago's Alinea Restaurant wants to treat the Clemson Tigers to a fine dining experience after the National Champions were served fast food at the White House.  Alinea, a Michelin three-star, is ranked among the best restaurants in the country.

    Total Unforced Error (none / 0) (#22)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 12:16:00 AM EST
    Of the sort only an absolute boor on steroids like Trump could deliver.

    Legendary material here folks.  This will cement some aspect of whatever the Legend of Donald turns out to be.  A seminal moment, like My Pet Goat.

    Late-night host material for a week.

    I have no love of the transparent semi-pro aspects of that level of college football.  My daughter attended University of Oregon.

    But I know that those players have been fed for as long as they have been at Clemson by nutritionists, dietitians and chefs in their separate dining facility.  They haven't had to eat fast food since high school.

    The photograph of Trump, standing triumphantly behind a table loaded with $50 worth of food is a classic for all time.

    On the plus side, the Clemson boys will never have to pay for another meal in their lives.

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    Uh-oh (none / 0) (#17)
    by MKS on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 10:39:57 PM EST
    Reports that Trump allegedly told Cohen to lie to Congress about Trump Tower Moscow.

    Whole new level now....

    Howdy, is that you that says Trump won't serve out term?

    President Pelosi? (none / 0) (#18)
    by MKS on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 11:04:16 PM EST
    Vice President Clutch Cargo might have ... (none / 0) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 04:16:12 AM EST
    ... something to say about that, although -- judging by his emotive but low-watt swipe today at critics of his wife's employer -- it likely won't be very intelligent. But it'll still be something.

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    Ha (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 11:09:52 PM EST
    This is just what we know now.  Seems very likely Cohen was hardly the only one Trump told to lie to congress.  All of which will be revealed now that their testimony will be turned over to Mueller. Who knows everything.

    The stories just get worse by the day.  I don't think that is an accident.  I think the skids are being greased.

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    See my comment (none / 0) (#21)
    by Peter G on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 11:15:23 PM EST
    Didn't Cohen keep recordings? (none / 0) (#30)
    by CST on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 11:26:21 AM EST
    That's what I'd be most worried about if I were obstructing justice.

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    Mueller calls (none / 0) (#55)
    by ragebot on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:27:56 PM EST
    BeeSss on this.

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    Got a link fer that? (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:35:19 PM EST
    Turn on the TV (none / 0) (#58)
    by ragebot on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:40:02 PM EST
    FOX, CNN, MSNBC, and everyone else is reporting it.  You need to get out more.

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    You need to read the actual statement, ... (none / 0) (#100)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 12:04:21 AM EST
    ... and not rely on cable news' babbling babblers of Babbleon as your interpreter. Team Mueller takes specific issue with Buzzfeed's characterization of some evidence and witness statements in its reporting, but adroitly sidesteps the article's primary contention that Trump suborned Cohen's perjury.

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    First one in (none / 0) (#59)
    by ragebot on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:41:52 PM EST
    CNN (none / 0) (#60)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:43:59 PM EST
    just reported it, don't know if it's up on their web site yet. Mueller's spokes person called the report not accurate.

    I did feel like there was something fishy about this. Now the question is who and why?  

    Someone obviously threw a red herring out there, I think Buzzfeed needs to burn there sources.

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    Here's the statement (none / 0) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:47:17 PM EST
    BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate

    That a very interesting statement

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    Interesting beyond (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:48:48 PM EST
    "The Sphinx speaks"

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    Very interesting choice of words (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:57:16 PM EST
    Even more so because Lanny Davis coming on tv this afternoon specifically to NOT  deny this story.

    Not accurate is not not true.

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    Not (none / 0) (#65)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:13:23 PM EST
    exactly a categorical denial, but Mueller wants to squelch the story for some good reason.

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    Those two reporters (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:14:39 PM EST
    Have a excellent track record.  

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    Excellent record? (none / 0) (#87)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 02:47:55 PM EST
    Thy said they have not actually seen the docs the whole drama rests on.

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    Excellent record? (none / 0) (#88)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 02:48:16 PM EST
    Thy said they have not actually seen the docs the whole drama rests on.

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    Ken Dilanian just now (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:13:29 PM EST
    Is saying to him they are not denying the story but details of the story like the documentation

    Here's a thought

    Instead of having "texts and emails" Cohen has a tape recording?

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    FWIW (none / 0) (#68)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:30:49 PM EST
    Buzzfeed "remains confident in their reporting"

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    I think he might have wanted to squelch it (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:44:02 PM EST
    Because in the last 24 hours there was a whole impeachment snowball thing happening

    Let's slow it down a bit.  

    I was saying just before this happened that it seemed like we were reaching critical mass.

    We don't want to get all excited and have a premature thing

    Buzz feed just repeated the information came from two federal law enforcement officials

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    Almost (none / 0) (#76)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 06:50:52 AM EST
    certainly two Fed's from SDNY. I wonder if this,at least partly, Mueller slapping back at them.

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    Yes, Mueller (none / 0) (#69)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:39:28 PM EST
    surely knows how to issue a repudiation or flat out denial.   "Not accurate" doesn't cut it. Maybe, not an accurate characterization that was made to his office, and, Mueller has been critiqued for not bringing this information forward immediately.   Mueller has his own timeline, but someone may feel it necessary to force his hand.   In any event, the BuzzFeed reporting has not been called out as false.

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    Yes, Mueller; (none / 0) (#70)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:40:33 PM EST
    surely knows how to issue a repudiation or flat out denial.   "Not accurate" doesn't cut it. Maybe, not an accurate characterization that was made to his office, and, Mueller has been critiqued for not bringing this information forward immediately.   Mueller has his own timeline, but someone may feel it necessary to force his hand.   In any event, the BuzzFeed reporting has not been called out as false.

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    Marcy Wheeler (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 08:11:55 PM EST
    Has some interesting thoughts on the Buzz feed story

    ABOUT THE BUZZFEED SCOOP: IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT IT OVERSELLS THE LYING PART



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    Marcy (none / 0) (#77)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 07:48:18 AM EST
    always has interesting thoughts.

    Buzzfeed seems to infer that the lie  about the Moscow deal was created in response to the investigation when it was almost certainly conceived of early in the campaign.

    Maybe it was crafted at the direction of tRump and maybe not, but once he proclaimed zero dealings in Russia that became the company line and lying would be SOP, orders from the top or not.

    Bottom line: Mueller has plenty of evidence that tRump expected and allowed Cohen to lie about it but little or no evidence that President Donald "Trump directed his longtime attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress." as asserted in the Buzzfeed story.

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    Mueller's (none / 0) (#84)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 11:23:08 AM EST
    carefully worded statement seems to be nuanced---the arc of the story is right, the description of specifics in some cases are confused or misleading or wrong.  Or. all of them Katy.

    In Cohen's November sentencing memo under " False Statements to  Congress", Cohen admits to lying to benefit Individual 1, in accordance with Individual 1's direction.  However, BuzzFeed may have given expansive wide-berth so as to be not accurate.  

    It is curious that it took Mueller 24 hours to respond.  Cohen deferred to Mueller.  Trump,s twitter finger went in the direction of impeaching Cohen' s veracity (hot hard to do) without addressing claims of  corroborating information.  And, Trump went from allegations of suborning perjury to possible, witness intimidation.

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    Mueller's (none / 0) (#85)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 11:24:20 AM EST
    carefully worded statement seems to be nuanced---the arc of the story is right, the description of specifics in some cases are confused or misleading or wrong.  Or. all of them Katy.

    In Cohen's November sentencing memo under " False Statements to  Congress", Cohen admits to lying to benefit Individual 1, in accordance with Individual 1's direction.  However, BuzzFeed may have given expansive wide-berth so as to be not accurate.  

    It is curious that it took Mueller 24 hours to respond.  Cohen deferred to Mueller.  Trump,s twitter finger went in the direction of impeaching Cohen' s veracity (hot hard to do) without addressing claims of  corroborating information.  And, Trump went from allegations of suborning perjury to possible, witness intimidation.

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    More interesting than (none / 0) (#82)
    by ragebot on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 11:05:07 AM EST
    the article you linked to was a link in the comments to an article in The Epoch Times (suppose to be a weird paper owned by people involved in the Falun Gong movement).

    The article claims (not sure how reliable the claims are) lots of weird stuff about Papadopoulos including he was paid $US10,000 by a guy from Israel on a trip to Greece which he left there and the FBI searched for it when they arrested him on his return to the US.  Papa kinda claims that the money is marked and part of a govt operation that several peeps have insisted he return the original bills.

    Have no idea is this is fiction or not but it sure was a good read.

    Comments in The Epoch Times article also asked the question 'why didn't Cohen produce the evidence about Trump ordering him to lie earlier to reduce his time in the big house'


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    There are some (none / 0) (#74)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 09:17:43 PM EST
    theories that law enforcement may be trying to protect their agency information since as we all know Trump has no problem with firing FBI agents. He could clean house of any agents that he thought were on the Russia beat and maybe these two were trying to protect themselves?

    SDNY leaks like a sieve though. We've had a bunch of stories that we know came from that office.

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    There are some (none / 0) (#75)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 09:17:44 PM EST
    theories that law enforcement may be trying to protect their agency information since as we all know Trump has no problem with firing FBI agents. He could clean house of any agents that he thought were on the Russia beat and maybe these two were trying to protect themselves?

    SDNY leaks like a sieve though. We've had a bunch of stories that we know came from that office.

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    There are some (none / 0) (#91)
    by ragebot on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 03:31:18 PM EST
    theories that the whole thing was a honey trap to smoke out leakers.  Kinda like when Tyrion gave different stories to Varys, Little Finger, and Pycelle and when Cersei came back with Pycelle's story Tyrion knew who the leaker was.

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    Russian State TV (none / 0) (#33)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 01:58:58 PM EST
    celebrates the 42 Republican Senators that came through for them for lifting sanctions on Manafort's colleague, Oleg Deripaska and his companies.  Recognition included, McConnell, Mitt Romney, Rick Scott, Thune, Burr (chair of senate intelligence).  No from Rubio, Cotton and all Democrats.

    Actually (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 03:21:40 PM EST
    I think it was no from both my senators

    Cotton and Bozeman

    A rare moment of pride.

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    Both of mine (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 03:34:24 PM EST
    were yes. David Perdue is one of the biggest hacks in the senate. However I'm glad he finally announced publicly his support of Putin. Isakson voted for this garbage too but I imagine he is going to retire in 2022. He's in poor health.

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    It really feels like (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:35:56 PM EST
    We are reaching some kind of critical mass.  I guess if so it will be when Mueller drops the final shoes which they say could be as soon as Feb.  I would imagine the timing of Cohen's public testimony is not done without some thought.

    This whole (none / 0) (#39)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:52:26 PM EST
    thing has a lot of nooks and crannies. There is the Manafort/campaign colluding with the Russians. There is Cambridge Analytica with the Mercers angle. There is the Prince/Jared deal in Seychelles. All roads lead the Kremlin and I guess that is just going to be the bottom line.

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    This whole (none / 0) (#40)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:52:27 PM EST
    thing has a lot of nooks and crannies. There is the Manafort/campaign colluding with the Russians. There is Cambridge Analytica with the Mercers angle. There is the Prince/Jared deal in Seychelles. All roads lead the Kremlin and I guess that is just going to be the bottom line.

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    Again, (none / 0) (#42)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:52:55 PM EST
    sorry. For some reason Chrome is posting my comments twice.

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    Again, (none / 0) (#43)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:52:55 PM EST
    sorry. For some reason Chrome is posting my comments twice.

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    Sorry but that's funny (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:54:32 PM EST
    Emergency declaration? (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:52:40 PM EST

    Trump says he will make a `major' announcement on Saturday about the border and government shutdown

    It might be weather related

    here comes the polar vortex

    I heard some speculation that a huge winter storm might be used as a vehicle for a sort of sick out by TSA people.  Shutting down some major airports.

    The blast of Arctic weather headed for the United States this weekend could be a first sign of still worse things to come this winter, with signs that a circular low-pressure system of swirling winds that normally keeps frigid air locked up at the North Pole has been disrupted and split into smaller parts.


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    That (none / 0) (#50)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:04:38 PM EST
    was my first and so far only guess, it seems like his best way out at the moment.

    He could easily spin it as saving the country from the Pelosi & Schmer shutdown, while telling his base "Fk congress, I and I alone will build the wall by decree".

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    And grabbing (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:12:01 PM EST
    A news cycle

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#53)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:22:24 PM EST
    it could be as simple as that, just a chance to throw a public tantrum is it's own reward.

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    OMG if it actually takes an act of nature (none / 0) (#112)
    by ruffian on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 04:52:21 PM EST
    to get us out of this ridiculous shutdown...well I will welcome it, but jeeeeesus. Let him claim some sort of victory, the Senate pass the House bill, and we live to fight about the wall some other day while the government opens back up andMueller and the House investigations proceed.

    It is all so insane.

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    Michael (none / 0) (#45)
    by ragebot on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:55:07 PM EST
    That was yesterday (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:03:56 PM EST
    He will testify.

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    I actually saw that interview (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:10:56 PM EST
    I got the impression it was a PR thing to make Cohen seem brave and whatever.  While I don't doubt he might have some concerns I don't actually think he is that worried about the welfare of his father in law

    I saw Lanny Davis again today and it seemed even less likely.  He went on tv today specifically to say he had nothing to say about the instructions to lie to congress.   It was a classic non-denial denial.  It was done, quite effectively, to say we are not disputing (or confirming) this story.

    Cohen will testify.  Trust me.

     

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    Wondering if (none / 0) (#46)
    by ragebot on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 05:56:17 PM EST
    No, (none / 0) (#47)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:00:24 PM EST
    apparently he is going to give up his demand for a wall from what I read.

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    No, (none / 0) (#48)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:00:24 PM EST
    apparently he is going to give up his demand for a wall from what I read.

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    Either way (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:25:56 PM EST
    Emergency or fold I think it really could be related to rumors of a coming sick out by TSA that would bring the whole country to a stand still.

    Your senator Johnny Isakson just advised the TSA to do just that.  Incredibly.  

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    Here "what if" (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:34:50 PM EST
    We've got a Super Bowl coming to Atlanta, Georgia, in about three weeks. The biggest tourism event in the world this year. What if the largest airport in the world that's going to bring all the people to the largest football game in the world goes out of business because the TSA does strikes? Then you've just cost millions of dollars to the United States of America, my home city, the city of Atlanta, and others. And there are thousands of examples just like that," he said.

    Thanks for the suggestion Johnny

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    Sounds (none / 0) (#62)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 06:47:29 PM EST
    like he desperately wants to end the shutdown and is putting that out there saying OMG what IF this happens. If it did happen the GOP in GA would be toast. He's right about the millions that would be lost.

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    Is it too much of an imaginative stretch (none / 0) (#72)
    by jondee on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 07:47:46 PM EST
    to suggest that Trump can shove a border wall up his as*?

    Sad!

    So we are told not to expect an (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 09:04:51 AM EST
    Emergency declaration.  That Trump plans to make the democrats an offer they can't refuse.

    Which seems likely to be bullish!t

    If he really had a credible offer he wouldn't to it on teevee but to the democrats.

    On the other hand......

    Politico (none / 0) (#79)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 09:21:27 AM EST
    Shutdown squeezes every part of air travel

    Some current and former lawmakers have speculated that the aviation system could reach a breaking point -- perhaps a strike that halts air traffic -- that would pressure Congress and the White House to settle their differences. "If TSA agents don't go to work, the shutdown is over tomorrow," Montana Democratic Sen. Jon Tester told reporters this week. "I'm not advocating they do that, but you stop air traffic and this thing's over with."

    But a strike is not about to happen, say the unions representing TSA screeners, air traffic controllers and other critical aviation workers, which note that it would be illegal for them to walk off the job.

    On the other hand, nothing prevents unpaid employees from quitting outright. Already, many are simply calling in absent because they cannot afford to work without pay.



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    Supposedly (none / 0) (#80)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 10:03:18 AM EST
    A deal for DACA?

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    Make no mistake (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 10:39:22 AM EST
    This is a pivotal moment.

    I defer completely to President Pelosie

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    I'm glad (none / 0) (#89)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 03:03:13 PM EST
    to see for some strange reason that I'm not the only one around here with a double posting problem.

    Trump looked even more orange than (none / 0) (#93)
    by desertswine on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 04:32:02 PM EST
    usual during his "major" announcement. His announcement was, in fact, nothing.

    I'm so looking forward (none / 0) (#94)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 04:50:54 PM EST
    To seeing what he looks like in an orange jumpsuit denied hair spray and spray tan.

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    You win (none / 0) (#97)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 08:24:30 PM EST
    the comment lotto for this threat with that post.

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    You win (none / 0) (#98)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 08:24:30 PM EST
    the comment lotto for this threat with that post.

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    Super Blood Wolf Moon Eclipse (none / 0) (#95)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 05:11:27 PM EST
    total eclipse of the moon will last an hour and 2 minutes, according to NASA, with the partial phase stretching out over 2 hours and 17 minutes. The show starts subtly at 9:36 p.m. EST (6:36 p.m. PST) with a penumbral eclipse, when the outer edge of Earth's shadow will very slightly darken the moon's face. Things will get a little more interesting around 10:34 p.m. EST (7:34 PST), when the moon enters the main, darker portion of Earth's shadow, the umbra. This marks the start of the partial lunar eclipse.

    At 11:41 p.m. EST (8:41 PST), the total eclipse begins. At this point, the moon will be entirely within the umbra, and the whole surface should appear dusky red. The total eclipse will last until 12:43 a.m. EST (9:43 p.m. PST), and the partial eclipse will end at 1:51 a.m. EST (10:51 p.m. PST). The final, subtle darkening of the penumbral eclipse will pass at 2:48 a.m. EST (11:48 p.m. PST). Weather permitting, most of the United States -- except for Hawaii and some of the Aleutian Islands -- will have a great view, Hayne said.

    sunday

    Probably going to be cloudy here

    I think it's gonna be cloudy here too. (none / 0) (#96)
    by desertswine on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 05:15:51 PM EST
    But I'm on it if it isn't.

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    I am due to be on a plane Sunday night (none / 0) (#99)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 10:36:52 PM EST
    between 9:30 and 11, heading home from Atlanta to Philly, so I am hoping for a view from above the clouds.

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    By that time, the eclipse will be more than halfway finished.

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    The skies cleared here (none / 0) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 07:37:05 AM EST
    Last night and with a fresh blanket of white snow the moon was so bright it was kind of eerie

    It was almost like "movie night" which is done with what they call day for night which means they shoot it during the day and some like me darkens the picture so you can still see all the details very much unlike real night usually is.

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    Rudy (none / 0) (#104)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 08:28:51 AM EST
    was in rare form on CNN just now, he was amped!

    It was hard to keep up but I think he implicated tRump on several occasion.

    He claimed to have inside knowledge from DOJ leaking directly to him, he repeatedly accused Mueller of suborning perjury from Cohen.

    He doubled down on attacking the father in law.

    Jam packed with multiple contradictions, wacky legal theories, ridiculous analogies, I'm going to watch it again at noon.

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    Yer a better man that me (none / 0) (#105)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 08:37:40 AM EST
    I couldn't take it and changed the channel as soon as be started screeching about how Dumph never lied about business in Russia.

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    It (none / 0) (#108)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 09:00:31 AM EST
    is really hard to take, but once he goes full stream of consciousness he usually gives away a lot, if you can parse it out of the gobbly gook.

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    I think the next "thing" (none / 0) (#106)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 08:43:43 AM EST
    Is likely to be some kind of work stoppage

    I would love to hear legal arguments for forcing people to work without pay for starting on the second month

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    He has really (none / 0) (#107)
    by Zorba on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 08:44:18 AM EST
    Gone around the bend.  (I mean, more so than he was before.)

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    Some people say it is some kind of political (none / 0) (#113)
    by ruffian on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 04:54:11 PM EST
    strategy to come out and admit guilt in stages to get people ready for the next show to drop. If so I guess that is the only strategy they have with a client that is guilty as sin of multiple crimes.

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    Remember... (none / 0) (#111)
    by desertswine on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 04:25:02 PM EST
    Do not look directly at the moon.

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    LOL! (none / 0) (#114)
    by Zorba on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 07:58:09 PM EST
    But can we moon the moon?

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    Go look at the moon (none / 0) (#116)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 10:37:56 PM EST
    RIGHT NOW.

    but put your pants on first.  Brrr

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    One of the football playoff games (none / 0) (#109)
    by fishcamp on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 10:22:11 AM EST
    is on tv today at the same time as downhill ski racing from Wengen, Switzerland.  Bummer.  That DH race, the Lauberhorn, is the longest, scariest race on the circuit.  It starts at the base of the famed Eiger mountain, which is a sheer wall of rock looming above.  After retiring from the team I was happy to quit worrying about it.  But no.  The next year, while filming for ABC, I had to run the course carrying a camera.  Double scary since there's no place to slow down.  After four more years of that I asked them to get a younger cameraman.

    Speaking as an L.A. Rams fan, ... (none / 0) (#115)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 10:21:01 PM EST
    ... I'll be honest here and admit that today's 26-23 overtime victory over the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Championship Game left a very bad taste in my mouth.

    As lousy officiating goes, the officials' failure in the waning moments of the 4th quarter to call a painfully obvious pass interference penalty on Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman, who clearly hit Saints wide receiver Tommylee Lewis early on a 3rd down pass attempt while the ball was still in the air, was as bad as it gets. Not only that, Robey-Coleman's helmet-to-helmet hit on Lewis was also a personal foul, which was similarly not flagged.

    That non-call, which the NFL front office has subsequently admitted was officiating malpractice, abruptly changed the game's trajectory -- and ultimately, its outcome -- by giving the Rams an undue possession in the final 1:49 of regulation that they clearly didn't deserve, which they used to tie the game and send it to OT. Because if the refs make that call properly, the Saints keep the ball, run the clock down, kick a walk-off chip-shot FG to win the game, and go to the Super Bowl.

    The officials' snafu in New Orleans will rank right up there with the infamous "tuck rule" call in the 2001 Patriots-Raiders game. Questionable officiating should never be the deciding factor in a playoff game, as it was today. And as a result, as much as it pains me to say it, it looks as though the wrong team is going to the Super Bowl.

    Now, that said, the blown call is on the officiating crew and not on the Rams, who took advantage of the unexpected opportunity and eked out a victory. I'm happy they won, but please forgive me if I also express sympathy for Saints fans because their team got royally screwed by the refs, who ruined what had heretofore been a hard-fought and well-played conference championship game.

    Aloha.

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    Not a fan of either team (none / 0) (#117)
    by Repack Rider on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 11:06:45 PM EST
    ...But the Saints got robbed on live TV.

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    Today is the 40th Anniversary (none / 0) (#118)
    by Repack Rider on Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 11:22:29 PM EST
    Of the day I let a local TV film crew make a video of my downhill off-road bicycle race, January 20, 1979. This would be the very first video evidence of what would eventually be called "mountain biking."

    By the end of that year, Gary Fisher, who is also featured in the video, and I would rent a garage and start building bicycles under the (two man) company name of MountainBikes.