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Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tribunal, Torture Bill

The Senate has passed the military tribunals bill. [Update: Roll Call vote here.]

McJoan at Daily Kos has the list of Democrat gutless wonders who voted for it. Shame on Colorado Senator Ken Salazar. Crooks and Liars has Harry Reid's statement that the bill is probably unconsitutional. Atrios has Hillary Clinton's statement. Here is Russ Feingold's statement. Glenn Greenwald and Digby weigh in. Also see: Bruce Ackerman in the LA Times on the White House Warden.

The ACLU says it all:

The American Civil Liberties Union expressed distress as the Senate adopted S.3930, the Military Commissions Act of 2006. That bill is identical to legislation adopted by the House yesterday and removes important checks on the president by: failing to protect due process, eliminating habeas corpus for many detainees, undermining enforcement of the Geneva Conventions, and giving a "get out of jail free card" to senior officials who authorized or ordered illegal torture and abuse.

"This legislation gives the president new unchecked powers to detain, abuse, and try people at Guantanamo Bay and other government facilities around the world," said Caroline Fredrickson, Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office. "Unfortunately for America, the Senate chose not to deliberate today. Instead, it joined the House and President Bush in jamming through a hastily written bill before running home to try to campaign."

Senators rejected several amendments that would have corrected shortcomings in the legislation. The bill gives the president license to weaken enforcement of the basic protections in Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions. As passed, the president would have new power to decide much of the scope of authorized conduct and the severity of punishment, giving him unparalleled power to unilaterally determine whether the government can carry out cruelty and abuse.

Additionally, the bill undermines the American value of due process by permitting convictions based on evidence literally beaten out of a witness or obtained through other abuse by either our government or other countries. Government officials who authorized or ordered illegal acts of torture and abuse would receive retroactive immunity for many of these acts, providing a "get out of jail free" card that is backdated nine years.

In the closest vote today, the Senate rejected by a 51-48 vote an amendment by Senators Arlen Specter (R-PA) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT) to preserve minimal protections of the courts in their historical and constitutional role as a check on the executive branch, through habeas corpus.

"Nothing could be less American than a government that can indefinitely hold people in secret torture cells, take away their protections against horrific and cruel abuse, put them on trial based on evidence they cannot see, sentence them to death based on testimony literally beaten out of witnesses, and then slam shut the courthouse door for any habeas petition," said Christopher Anders, an ACLU Legislative Counsel. "But that's exactly what Congress just approved."

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    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#1)
    by profmarcus on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 05:42:58 PM EST
    what do we do now...? until my shame attack passes, i can't even think straight... And, yes, I DO take it personally

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#7)
    by theologicus on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 06:33:21 PM EST
    We have witnessed a milestone in the disintegration of democracy in America. It's going to take a while for this to sink in. It's hard to know what to do from here. The day we invaded Iraq was a day of infamy. What would we call today? A day of grevious loss, perhaps.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#8)
    by theologicus on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 06:36:48 PM EST
    A day of incalculable loss.

    Just heard it on the radio when I was driving home. 65 votes FOR the measure. It means that some democrats supported the bill. If that many democrats joined in, the bill must be really popular with the American people. Isn't democracy great?

    The Constitution is a dead letter. R.I.P.

    I pretty much agree with what Profmarcus says. shame for ones country and the people who support this kind of thinking. A rouge president who has truly turned us into a rouge nation. How would the Greatest Generation, the soliders of the civil war and the patriots who fought the revolution have felt about the dirty business done today?

    Perhaps this is kind of like what the once proud and once free native Indians must have felt. You know, once their traditional customs and ways of life were rent asunder.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#6)
    by learned hound on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 08:10:52 PM EST
    I know this is an enormous [explective deleted] surprise, that Congress rubber stamped an eviscertaion of the bill of rights. What we do now is vote the [expletive deleted]s out, be they Repugs or Demos. I'm especially [expletive deleted] angry at the dems, who have once again demonstrated that they have nothing to offer. Enough is enough.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#9)
    by scarshapedstar on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 08:10:52 PM EST
    "Nothing could be less American than a government that can indefinitely hold people in secret torture cells, take away their protections against horrific and cruel abuse, put them on trial based on evidence that they cannot see, sentence them to death based on testimony literally beaten out of witnesses, and then slam shut the courthouse door for any habeas petition," said Christopher Anders, an ACLU Legislative Counsel. "But that's exactly what Congress just approved."
    I can think of one thing that's less American: Fags gettin' married! Praise Jesus!

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#10)
    by jarober on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 08:10:52 PM EST
    Funny how a President who is so vastly unpopular (as the left likes to say, repeatedly) manages to acquire so much political capital.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#11)
    by Edger on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 09:45:27 PM EST
    JR, he does it with blackmail. Like this.

    Unbelievable... I said in an open thread back in April that I believed that everyone, right or left, all wanted the same thing, and that all the discussions and arguments are just over methods of achieving it - to see America return to it's historical stature and position as the leader and light of a free world that stands above all else for what I think is the fundamental thing that is very close to being lost under the regime that bush and the neocons have saddled the world, not just the country, with. The simple dignity of and respect for, men and women everywhere. I don't think after today that I could say that again and believe it. That fundamental value appears to have been forgotten, and lost, today. Incredible to throw away something of such incalculable value, I agree, Theo... Has anything been gained in return, other than the realization that "You don't know what you've got till it's gone"? Or even that? ---edger

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#16)
    by Andreas on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 09:50:39 PM EST
    The WSWS writes:
    The legislation adopted by the House of Representatives Wednesday and the Senate Thursday, legalizing the Bush administration's policy of torture and indefinite detention without trial, as well as kangaroo-court procedures for Guantánamo detainees, marks a watershed for the United States. For the first time in American history, Congress and the White House have agreed to set aside the provisions of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and formally adopt methods traditionally identified with police states.
    US Congress legalizes torture and indefinite detention By the editorial board, 29 September 2006

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#15)
    by Raven on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 10:46:13 PM EST
        "The Democrats" in Congress can't be lumped together on this one... but nearly all "the Republicans" can be. 34 House Democrats voted for torture and against habeas corpus; another 7 didn't vote; but 160 voted to oppose this evil bill, despite Bush's accusations of appeasement -- and these holdouts deserve our continued support. (7 Republicans and 1 Independent joined them in holding out.) Likewise, 12 Senate Democrats voted for the torture bill, but 32 voted against (along with Independent Jeffords and one lone Republican, RI's Chafee). Remember which of your elected officials voted which way, especially at the next primary. House Roll Call.   Senate Roll Call. Meawhile, let's get the majority control out of Republicans' hands this election.  

    Sunday elections will be held in Austria.

    If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. --George Orwell
    State power is only effective as long as those subject to it "believe" in it. The state has no power except what we grant it. Its power is derived from our willingness to give up our own power. Thus, the state's primary role is to instill in its subjects the idea that it is absolutely necessary, and that without it, life would be miserable and chaotic (like present-day Iraq, perhaps!). ... So, where to from here? In George Orwell's 1984, the road ended in Room 101. But in the real world--the world as it is--you have the opportunity to take a different road. You CAN defeat Big Brother in so many different ways. It's just a matter of "waking up" and seeing where the power really resides--with YOU. You have the power to withdraw your permission, to withdraw your support. You can do this in a multitude of ways--both minor and major. And you can find support networks of like-minded people, where the "how" of this is revealed. The computer screen in your home or office is not a one-way propaganda tool. No, it is an interactive tool at your personal disposal. YOU can choose what to read. YOU can choose how to communicate, and with whom. YOU can choose the nature of the relationships your forge. YOU are in the driver's seat. The internet can be your gateway to personal freedom. Your portal to the real world--the world without the charade of state power. But you have to want freedom. You have to desire it intensely. If you want to be a prole, that is your choice and your right. But if you want to be free, then it's time to wake up and act.
    ---edger

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 07:41:08 AM EST
    In the meantime, this is what the bill does:
    Those subject to commission trials would be any person "who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents." Proponents say this definition would not apply to U.S. citizens but would allow the detention and prosecution of individuals financing terrorist networks.


    Proponents say this definition would not apply to U.S. citizens
    Hope you're not picked up accidentally or because your neighbor decides to turn you over in return for some candy:
    You [won't be able to] prove that you're neither a foreigner nor a terrorist, because there has been no impartial judicial hearing in which you have the benefit of an attorney, the right to confront your accusers and cross-examine them, and the judgment of a jury of your peers. But then, you shouldn't have those rights because law-enforcement agencies have information that you're a foreign terrorist. ... So go back to sleep. Your government will protect you.
    ---edger

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#28)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 08:14:01 AM EST
    edger - Why don't you provide us a copy of the bill? That way we can read and make up our own minds.

    Took me all of 10 seconds, Jim. Go find it yourself. You have to do your own homework. One of the responsibilities of citizenship, you know? S. 3930

    The Pledge of Allegiance used to include, "With liberty and Justice for All" and used to be a pledge of allegiance to what the US flag stands for. Now it's just a hollow recitation of meaningless words. And to think people used to be worried about the words "under God". How quaint. Those were such innocent times.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#24)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 09:31:05 AM EST
    I guess we will have to look for another beacon of freedom, justice, and human rights elsewhere in the world...it ain't us babe. Maybe Canada will take the torch.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#25)
    by aw on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 09:31:05 AM EST
    For shame. Both senators from NJ voted yea. Menendez is up for election, but what is Lautenberg's excuse? And punishing Menendez by voting for Kean is not an option for me. I feel sick.

    Find it yourself. Or just read the post. You have to do your homework for yourself. It's one of your responsibilities as a citizen.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#31)
    by dutchfox on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 09:31:05 AM EST
    Ariel Dorfman wrote a piece last Sunday in the Washington Post:
    Can't the United States see that when we allow someone to be tortured by our agents, it is not only the victim and the perpetrator who are corrupted, not only the "intelligence" that is contaminated, but also everyone who looked away and said they did not know, everyone who consented tacitly to that outrage so they could sleep a little safer at night, all the citizens who did not march in the streets by the millions to demand the resignation of whoever suggested, even whispered, that torture is inevitable in our day and age, that we must embrace its darkness? Are we so morally sick, so deaf and dumb and blind, that we do not understand this? Are we so fearful, so in love with our own security and steeped in our own pain, that we are really willing to let people be tortured in the name of America?
    I am reminded by words spoken two German Lutheran clergymen who were fervent anti-Nazis during WWII -- Dietrich Bonhoeffer:
    Action springs not from thought, but from a readiness for responsibility.
    Martin Niemöller (there have been various versions of this quote)[my emphasis in italics]:
    First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out-- because I was not a communist; Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-- because I was not a socialist; Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-- because I was not a trade unionist; Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- because I was not a Jew; Then they came for me-- and there was no one left to speak out for me.


    I weep for my child who is losing her America.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#21)
    by john horse on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 09:55:31 AM EST
    The Republicans have sold out the Constitution, sold their souls, in order to support a policy that has been a failure.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#22)
    by yudel on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 09:55:31 AM EST
    Take back the Senate? I'm from the shamed double blue torture state of New Jersey, where both of our Senators came out in favor of Bush and against the Constitution. Talk about rallying the base to stay home on election day; is there any reason why I should bestir myself to help Martinez be re-elected?

    I am ashamed to say that Bill Nelson of Florid is my senator and he voted aye for this horror. All I can do is to let him know just how ashamed of him I am, and I did. I cannot believe that our country is so ruled by fear as to toss our traditional values aside like this. I am not afraid of terrorist, but I am afraid of the President and Congress. When Bush took over in 2000, I thought he just couldn't do that much damage to the country in four or even eight years, but I see that I am really rotten at predicting the future. One thing that Bush has is a talent for damage.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#19)
    by ras on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 09:59:50 AM EST
    Lotsa emoting. Is it real or is it for show? We'll find out soon enough by whether or not the emoters support the Dems, regardless.

    Dutchfox:
    Are we so morally sick, so deaf and dumb and blind, that we do not understand this? Are we so fearful, so in love with our own security and steeped in our own pain, that we are really willing to let people be tortured in the name of America?
    It was the old, old story of the sacrificial lamb.
    What about those of us who knew better, we who knew the words were lies and worse than lies? Why did we sit silent? Why did we take part? Because we loved our country. What difference does it make if a few political extremists lose their rights? What difference does it make if a few racial minorities lose their rights? It is only a passing phase. It is only a stage we are going through. It will be discarded sooner or later. ... And then, one day we looked around and found that we were in an even more terrible danger. The ritual begun in this courtroom swept over the land like a raging, roaring disease. What was going to be a "passing phase" had become the way of life.
    ---edger

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#35)
    by Bill Arnett on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 04:19:41 PM EST
    I am already selling everything I own and planning on returning to the Philippines, which has a real democracy. I cannot sleep at night for worry that anyone could make up any kind of lie to say my wife of 33 years could possibly be an enemy combatant, and that bush's nazi stormtroopers and jack-booted thugs could take her away from me with no appeal, no right to defend or even see her, and that she could be held forever based on king george's say-so. In my fight for my life against multiple cancers caused by Agent Orange exposure this wonderful, loving woman gently took my face between her hands, got eye-to-eye with me and quietly, but firmly, told me, "You can't die yet - I'm not done with you!" I would not have survived without her support and love and I cannot live in a country that could rip her away from me based on a bush finding that she "might" be an enemy combatant. Would you? This may be an abstract exercise to most of you, but for me it could not possibly be more important or a more evil deed committed by my government yesterday. American democracy died yesterday, and I hope the rethuglicans and all their trolls are proud that they have done something impossible for 230-years - they have destroyed America.

    Re: Senate Buckles Under Bush, Passes Military Tri (none / 0) (#37)
    by dutchfox on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 04:19:41 PM EST
    edgar- Thanks for that quote from Judgement at Nuremberg. Strangely enough, I'd happened to re-watch that film last week on DVD. Makes one wonder.

    The Pledge of Allegiance used to include, "With liberty and Justice for All" and used to be a pledge of allegiance to what the US flag stands for. Now it's just a hollow recitation of meaningless words. And to think people used to be worried about the words "under God". How quaint. Those were such innocent times. Just change it to "With Liberty and Justice for All US Citizens". Problem solved.

    All I know is, our founding fathers are spinning in their graves, and all this ridiculously intrusive, poorly written, and abusive legislation will have to be dragged from a simple lawsuit all the way to the supreme court before we can overturn it, as it is destined to be...this stuff isn't law, it's an embarrassment, just like our government has become! I say, vote out the incumbents!! If the Democrats are going to support this, toss them too!!