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The Senate Republicans' Health Care Bill

The Senate Republicans' health care bill is apparently even worse than that of their House counterparts. The New York Times says even some Republicans are bad-mouthing it.

One of the obstacles: The money for drug treatment, opioids in particular. [More...]

Republican senators from states that have been hit hard by the opioid drug crisis have tried to cushion the Medicaid blow with a separate funding stream of $45 billion over 10 years for substance abuse treatment and prevention costs, now covered by the expansion of Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

But that, too, is running into opposition from conservatives. They have been tussling over the issue with moderate Republican senators like Rob Portman of Ohio, Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia and Susan Collins of Maine.

Without some opioid funding, Mr. Portman cannot vote for the bill, he said, adding, “Any replacement is going to have to do something to address this opioid crisis that is gripping our country.”

There would be no "opioid crises" if the DEA and Congress hadn't restricted availability of pain pills by threatening doctors with prosecution and pretending to know better than doctors how many pills someone needs to manage chronic pain.

When people in pain can't get pills, they turn to heroin. Let people have the pills they need or want and there will be no need to turn to heroin or fetanyl. If there's a "crisis" it's one Congress, with help from the Global Holy Warriors of the DEA created.

As for the rest of the Senate Republican's health care bill, while I have only seen media accounts, I'm not surprised it's a disaster. Obamacare is not the problem. It never was. Republicans are the problem. If they get this passed, we will all be the worse for it.

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    Are we great again yet? (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by desertswine on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 08:49:18 PM EST
    It's like the country is becoming a grotesque parody of the United States. Sort of like the United Oligarchic States.

    maybe it was a typeo (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 09:02:06 PM EST
    and was supposed to be

    Make America Grate Again

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    POLITICO (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 05:46:19 PM EST
    i am suspicious of (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 05:51:32 PM EST
    republican "bad mouthing".  it sounds more like mealy mouthing to me.  they all sound convincable to me.

    i hope im wrong.

    I don't think (none / 0) (#3)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 06:25:22 PM EST
    you are wrong.  Surely the devious and crafty McConnell has built-in a number of life savers to throw to  electorally needy Republican senators. And, to satisfy the rara avis, moderates.  A minor de-meanification tweak here, a two-year delay in kick-in there, and presto, all aboard the Make America Great Again--if you plan never to get sick, need medicine, or be injured.  And, Trump is helping out with his "I have no tapes behind my back" down the rabbit hole tactic.

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    Well as we saw in the house (none / 0) (#6)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 08:12:54 PM EST
    they will all whine and complain about how bad the bill is and then vote for it.

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    the reason for the mad rush (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 08:31:06 PM EST
    is clear.  i think if it can just be delayed for a bit it will implode.  the backlash, like the disabled protests in Mitchs office today, is going to be something to see.

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    The backlash (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 08:51:46 PM EST
    might be something that has to happen at the polls in 2018. Of course, we will get a preview of that this fall in VA and NJ. According to Ralph Northam voters in Virginia are against Trumpcare 2 to 1. Murphy in NJ is looking to wipeout the GOP with Christie's Lt. Gov as the candidate. I have to say I guess Republicans in NJ are just that stupid to nominate his Lt. Gov.

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    i dont think so (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 09:00:08 PM EST
    they are about to leave for the summer recess.  they are going to hear from people. even today and tomorrow there are being protests organized in airports to ambush them.

    this is going to be intense.  i think.  

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    Worse, I read somewhere - i think it was (none / 0) (#9)
    by Anne on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 08:34:13 PM EST
    a tweet - that the plan is for the House to just pass whatever passes the Senate, with no conference to reconcile the Senate bill with the House bill - so...if they can get the bill through the Senate, it's a done deal.  There will be no rescuing it, no one-more-chance to defeat it.

    So many people will be hurt by this - the evil men do, really.

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    Well, I already (none / 0) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 08:53:15 PM EST
    called my rep and told his person that I hope someone runs against him and reminds voters every day of his vote for this odious bill and said candidate reminds voters of medically fragile children dying because of his vote.

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    J, seriously? (none / 0) (#4)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 06:36:08 PM EST
    There is a ton of heroin in my area (SoCal). While there probably are some chronic pain sufferers who are using it medicinally, the vaaast majority of users are recreational.

    At least, they're recreational users until they feel like they can't live w/o it any more. Or they're dead.

    NFL QB Eric Kramer's 18 y/o son, Griffen, died of a heroin OD near my home 6 years ago. He was not suffering from chronic (physical) pain. Another kid about the same age who lived a few blocks away, whose mother I volunteered with, died of a heroin OD a few years later. He also was not in any chronic (physical) pain.

    I have no idea how the two started using, though often the gateway is illegally using prescription pain meds, but cheap heroin is available basically everywhere in the US.

    Lastly, why would you use Prince as an example of

    When people in pain can't get pills, they turn to heroin.
    ?

    While Prince may have started using pain pills for chronic pain, according to most that knew him well, despite still being in pain, he was absolutely addicted by the time he OD'd. And he could get plenty of pain meds, he didn't turn to heroin.

    What am I missing?

    Prince died of an overdose of (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 07:48:48 PM EST
    fentanyl, which was not legally prescribed.

    bq. Prince did not have any prescriptions, including for fentanyl.

    Another report from the LA Times: " The 57-year-old musician had no prescription for any controlled substances in the state of Minnesota in the 12 months before he died." His pills were counterfeit. Maybe if he had been able to get prescription pain pills, he wouldn't have turned to the black market and died.

    He was not a recreational user, he had chronic pain.

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    could not get prescription pain meds.

    He OD'd several (many?) times over the years, according to people close to him.

    I agree, he was not a "recreational" user when he died.  While he did have chronic pain he was also heavily addicted and had been so for years, according to those close to him.

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    According to Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman of Prince's old band the Revolution, who had both remained friends with him even after they went their separate ways professionally, they'd been completely blindsided by his death (as were we all) and had no idea he was an addict.

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    Our country's healthcare professionals generally do not do a good job with pain management.

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    I have read (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 08:15:55 PM EST
    that they have had success in Europe in dealing with addiction with letting doctors handle it who wean the users off of the drugs with prescriptions. I don't know but it sounds like something worth trying here.

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