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Sunday Open Thread

Our last open thred (Friday) is all filled up.

I'm off to a college graduation this morning (which unbelievably is going to last four hours until 1 pm, and then with lunch, till 3pm.) Then I get to rush home to meet Comcast who will try and tell me why my DVR machine blacks out every night and loses the saved recordings. Since it's probably a box problem, I guess that means I'll be getting a shiny new DVR. Hard to believe the one I have is already 5 years old. Hard to complain though. How many electronics that you run hours a day for five years can last much longer than that?

On Friday, the Government delivered discovery in my latest case with 18 defendants: 16 wiretapped phones and more than 5,000 pertinent calls, all in Spanish. That's my night-time project, to start digging in. I'll be curious to see what language they're using in 2013 for getting prospective cell cite locator information -- whether they are sticking to their argument that they don't need to show probable cause, just a relevance showing under the Stored Communications Act, or whether they've modified it to include probable cause based on the numerous recent court decisions distinguishing between historical and real-time data. In a recent case, I asked the FBI agent if they had the real time locator information showing on a monitor in the control room where they listen to the wiretap calls, and he said yes.

Here's an order denying prospective or real-time cell site locator data by a Magistrate judge named Owsley in Texas. [More...]

He says probable cause is required. Another great issue: Law enforcements use of "cell tower dumps" in which they get the subscriber info and cell cite locator data for every call using the same cell tower as their target. Hundreds of innocents persons' records are swept up. What do they do with them when the investigation is done? Do they remain in their database? The should be destroyed. Judge Owlsey writes

Finally, there is no discussion about what the Government intends to do with all of the data related to innocent people who are not the target of the criminal investigation. In one criminal investigation, the Government received the names, cell phone numbers, and subscriber information of 179 innocent individuals. See United States v. Soto, No. 3:09CR200 (D.Conn. May 18, 2010) (Memorandum in Support of Motion to Suppress).

Although the use of a court-sanctioned cell tower dump invariably leads to such information being provided to the Government, in order to receive such data, the Government at a minimum should have a protocol to address how to handle this sensitive private information. Although this issue was raised at the hearing, the Government has not addressed it to date. This failure to address the privacy rights for the Fourth Amendment concerns of these innocent subscribers whose information will be compromised as a request of the cell tower dump is another factor warranting the denial of the application.

From the Amicus brief in the Soto case:

The facts of this case demonstrate that the government is already using the available cell site technology not only to retrace the movements over time of those suspected of involvement in a crime, but to review the movement and associations of 180 individuals, some of whom could not have any possible connection to the investigation. These facts illustrate that "dragnet type law enforcement practices" that threaten to eviscerate privacy rights and chill associational and other expressive activities are now a reality. Knotts, 460 U.S. at 283-84 (reserving for another day the constitutionality of dragnet type law enforcement practices like twenty-four hour surveillance); United States v. Garcia, 474 F.3d 994, 998 (7th Cir. 2007) (permitting warrantless GPS tracking when the police have a suspect in their sights, but stating that "[t]echnological progress poses a threat to privacy by enabling an extent of surveillance that in earlier times would have been prohibitively expensive" and reserving decision on constitutionality of programs of mass surveillance), cert. denied, 552 U.S. 883 (2007); W.D. Pa. 2008 (Lenihan),534 F. Supp. 2d at 612 ("[N]ewly-emergent technologies create the potential to monitor associational activities in a manner that could have a chilling effect").

The Fourth Amendment protects an individual's reasonable expectations of privacy in information that he "seeks to preserve as private." Katz, 389 U.S. at 351. It cannot be correct that that Amendment has nothing to say about whether government, enabled by technology, may subject Americans to round-the-clock surveillance of their movements for as long as it likes.

Another good reason to turn off your location based services on your phone and not announce your presence at places on apps like four square: It's an announcement to the world that you are not at home.

So much to do, so little time. Here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    In a somewhat related story... (none / 0) (#1)
    by unitron on Sun May 19, 2013 at 06:27:23 AM EST
    ...the Federal 1st Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that police can't search your phone when they arrest you without a warrant.

    So I guess that means they'll get all your phone data without a warrant and then they'll arrest you, at which point they won't need to search your phone.

    The cable guy is coming out on a Sunday? (none / 0) (#2)
    by unitron on Sun May 19, 2013 at 06:35:53 AM EST
    "...tell me why my DVR machine blacks out every night and loses the saved recordings."

    Are these recordings that you know the machine actually made?

    As in you could play them back right after they're made (if it were convenient at that time), but later on they aren't there any more despite still having plenty of disc space?

    Could be the CCI bit (click me) is set to 3 or 7 on those shows and they "evaporate" after 90 minutes.

    yes they were recorded (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:09:50 AM EST
    and on the DVR for months -- the Stones' Crossfire Hurricane and the History of the Eagles. The tv works fine but when I press the dvr a message comes up "DVR service not available, call Comcast.)

    They give it a jolt (by phone) and a few hours later it's back with my recordings. The next day the same thing happened. They think it's the cable/DVR box that's faulty.

    Yes, they come out on Saturdays and Sunday with a 2 hour window.

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    also, the record function doesn't work (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:12:45 AM EST
    when the DVR isn't working. The cable TV has not been affected, just the DVR part.

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    and speaking of being spied on... (none / 0) (#3)
    by unitron on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:52:17 AM EST
    ...by dear old Uncle Sam...

    FBI Considers CALEA II: Mandatory Wiretapping On Every Device

    "In response to declining utility of CALEA mandated wiretapping backdoors due to more widespread use of cryptography, the FBI is considering a revamped version that would mandate wiretapping facilities in end users' computers and software."

    Dadler's ecard of the day (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dadler on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:19:02 AM EST
    I just heard a wonderful performance (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:17:21 AM EST
    of an obscure oratorio. 11 am. But the performance was not in a church.

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    I'm going to church now. (none / 0) (#12)
    by Dr Molly on Sun May 19, 2013 at 11:23:01 AM EST
    That's what I call my Sunday morning yoga class :)

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    I enjoyed reading EW's listing of all (none / 0) (#8)
    by magster on Sun May 19, 2013 at 10:05:29 AM EST
    of Stefon's favorite NYC clubs this morning.

    Dizi Izle (none / 0) (#9)
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    Dizi Sitemizde Hergun  Guncel Dizi Eklenmektedir,,,

    Yayınlandıgı gun aynı anda  izleye bilirisniz,

    sitemizde son bolum, 720p izle, tek part izle, online izle, donmadan izle,full izle

    Spamalama-ding-dong! (none / 0) (#10)
    by magster on Sun May 19, 2013 at 11:01:05 AM EST
    Don't click link. Delete.

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    Eurovision (none / 0) (#11)
    by sj on Sun May 19, 2013 at 11:20:38 AM EST
    I don't get the Eurovision Song Competition on Comcast though I wish I did so I never watch, but... I have to say that I'm amused by this story that Germany's entry may have done so poorly because the rest of Europe is pi$$ed at Angela Merkel who is
    ..loathed in parts of Europe for her insisting on painful austerity measures in countries such as Greece, Spain and Italy in exchange for rescue packages.