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Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House?

Time Magazine explores the gas price crisis and notes the irony -- I'd call it hypocrisy -- of Bush now blaming it on the oil companies.

Who's suffering? Consumers, airlines, Detroit, truckers and Fedex, to name a few.

Who's profiting? The oil companies, oil-field-service firms, oil workers, petroleum engineers and geologists, oil traders in New York City's Mercantile Exchange -- and Iran and Venezuela:

Hugo Chávez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Presidents of Venezuela and Iran, respectively, have benefited from the rhetoric of U.S. foreign policy. The Administration's confrontational response to Iran's nuclear policy and Venezuela's anticapitalism is actually making those countries richer and their rulers more popular by driving up the price of oil, a commodity they possess much of.

Then there are those who say Americans are gas-hogs and the price of gas should be raised to encourage conservation and as a means of creating alternative energy sources.

The bottom line is this, according to Time:

...with elections looming and consumers fuming, the Republicans can't ignore what every TV news show is headlining the Pain at the Pump. The cost of gas may be high now, but for the Republicans by November, it could be a lot higher.

Ernest Wilson at TPM writes:

Iran's going nuclear; Latin America's going left; Nigeria's going to pieces; China's going everywhere and driving up raw material prices; and the Bush administration is going off the deep end, simultaneously looking for scapegoats for its bankrupt energy policies, and ostrich-like, looking to bury its head in the sand to hide from the serious energy and environmental problems America faces.

That this Haliburton-Happy band of Big Oil allies could pretend to be surprised by our current situation is the height of hypocrisy. At every opportunity to design an energy policy that would protect America they took the path of protecting the oil companies instead. The administration failed to provide more incentives for consumers to shift to other fuels, to drive more efficient cars or to conserve energy in other ways.

Republicans are now falling all over themselves to come up with a plan. The most ridiculous, is that of Sen. Bill Frist, who wants to give voters $100 to ease their pain at the pump. As if, they wouldn't have to just turn around and give it back the next time they filled up their car. The New York Times reported yesterday:

The rebate was the signature element of a broader Senate Republican leadership plan announced Thursday that included new incentives for the oil industry to increase its refining capacity and for consumers to buy hybrid cars. It would open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska to drilling and would impose an accounting change forcing oil companies to pay higher taxes on fuel sold from stockpiles. The proposal would also give the executive branch new authority to set fuel standards for cars, an idea that will get a hearing in the House this week.

But Rep. Debbie Stabenow (R-MI) said Artic drilling will never win approval so that's a non-realistic component of the plan.

Wall St Analysts are warning that crude oil could soon top $100 a barrel.

What would your solutions be? Has anyone in Congress come up with a sensible plan?

And back to the original question, will gas prices be a deciding factor in November's elections?

Update: The Democrats offer a plan.

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    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Steven Sanderson on Mon May 01, 2006 at 08:58:10 AM EST
    Debbie Stabenow is a Democrat.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#2)
    by Steven Sanderson on Mon May 01, 2006 at 08:59:22 AM EST
    I forgot, Stabenow is also a Senator.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#3)
    by Slado on Mon May 01, 2006 at 09:04:39 AM EST
    An industry-wide study in the late 1990s showed that oil industry profits amounted to an estimated 7.3 cents on each gallon sold.1 More recently, ConocoPhillips reported that during the third quarter of 2005 earnings from its U.S. refining and marketing operations amounted to 9 cents per gallon. This compares with a national average retail price of $2.60 per gallon during the third quarter, the period of highest gasoline prices in 2005 Source: Conoco Simple math shows us that while "profits have increased" they do not reflect directly the amount that gas prices have increased. It is easy and simple minded to blame "big oil" but it's all too conveinent for liberals who don't want to take responsiblity for their contribution to this situation. And in my opinion everyone should be pointing a finger at themselves. Oil has been overly regulated and supply is artificially limited for a variety of reasons. The solution is new options mixed with better efficiency and increased drilling and refining. This is a long term situation to a long term problem that doesn't fit into the liberal mindset of "blame the rich guy". But the liberal whiners would rather have it all. Limit supply, tout unrealistic alternatives, brag about hybrids and cut off any source for oil that might actually lower prices. Meanwhile democrats and liberals like Chuck Shumer clutch the "gas is too expensive" issue like a holy grail as a way to gain back control of congress. Unbelievable.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Patrick on Mon May 01, 2006 at 09:07:20 AM EST
    The reason gas is so expensive is because of speculators, buying bbls at ever increasing prices anticipating the price will go even higher. It's like a run away housing market, and it will eventually correct itself. Oil compaines are recording record profits because oil proceeds are at an all-time high. Not because they are gouging the consumer. 10% profit on a million is a lot less than 10% profit on a billion. Windfall taxes, however, will be passed on to the consumer. It's a fallacy to think the oil execs will just pay them without passing the cost down to the consumer.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#5)
    by Slado on Mon May 01, 2006 at 09:23:38 AM EST
    Agreed Patrick. So how about letting the US find it's own oil off the coast of FL, in the Gulf of Mexico and in ANWAR. How about letting the industry build new refineries? Etc... People can't have it both ways. If the environment is the most important issue of all then stand by it. But don't complain when gas hit $5 a gallaon and shift all the blame to oil companies. I don't mean to give them a pass. But it isn't possible to blame only Exxon and Conoco. This is a mess of everyone's making.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Slado on Mon May 01, 2006 at 09:32:14 AM EST
    I don't think How Stuff Works is biased charlie. Here's a good article on all the factors that contribute to high prices. Good tidbit on what it costs in other countries, how environmental concerns effect price in certain markets and a nice bit about ANWAR. HSW

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:07:28 AM EST
    Slado: Great link. The panel on NBC's MTP yesterday did a pretty good job airing most of the issues. The most reasonable person among the group was the uncharacteristically sedate Jim Cramer. I'm more impressed by that guy every day... Anyway, about ANWR: would drilling there solve all our problems with one fell swoop? No way. Would it help? Certainly. But more than anything, building more refineries (and not the "teacup" refineries the environmentalists claim are the only acceptable model) to increase our productive capacity (and compensate for downtime during natural disasters)would help stabilize gas prices. Are we ever going to see $1.50 per gallon gasoline again? Don't count on it. With the rapid industrialization of China and India and the accompanying increase in petrochemical demand, unless there is a proportionally increase in supply or an economical alternative brought online, prices will reflect the market reality. Are oil companies in the clear? Who knows? Are they colluding? There's no evidence (and considering how harshly they are scrutinized, I think we would have found such evidence by now). Are they profit taking? Sure. But what business isn't? The price of crude is driven by the market and the market is driven, and this is VITAL, by nationally owned oil companies. The most recent numbers a quick search could find, from 1997, showed Exxon accounted for only 2.4% of the daily production of oil, good enough for the 7th largest oil producer in the world. When nationally owned oil producers restrict their supply, they can truly effect the market price. If ExxonMobil were to attempt such a practice, their miniscule share of the world market means an extraction slowdown would have almost no effect on the price.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#8)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:08:07 AM EST
    From the post:
    The Administration's confrontational response to Iran's nuclear policy and Venezuela's anticapitalism is actually making those countries
    Is Time actually suggesting we let Iran and Venezula dictate our foreign policy? That would be funny if it wasn't so stupid. And is the Left willing to step up and admit that, among other things, its absolute opposition to drilling for oil anyplace has caused this situation?

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#9)
    by Peaches on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:21:18 AM EST
    And is the Left willing to step up and admit that, among other things, its absolute opposition to drilling for oil anyplace has caused this situation?
    Using your own words.
    That would be funny if it wasn't so stupid.


    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#10)
    by jondee on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:25:57 AM EST
    ppj - Yeah Jim. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Massa and his cohorts refusing for years to take seriously the need for rigorous efficiency standards, alternative fuels research, and a comprehensive long-term conservation strategy. That has to be one of your most patantly dishonest and idiotic posts (with alot of runners-up) in months. Take your "the Left" and stick it.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#11)
    by jondee on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:27:19 AM EST
    please.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#12)
    by Joe Bob on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:42:35 AM EST
    All of this carping about liberal environmentalists, oil futures speculators, etc., is just happy talk, that's right: happy talk, by people who are scared witless by the thought that this just might be the new reality we have to live with from now on. It's reassuring for some to think that repealing regulations and reining in speculators will bring gas prices back to a happy place, like $1.50/gallon. Personally, I would be pleasantly surprised if I were ever to see gas below $2/gallon in my lifetime. So, ignore if for a long as you like, but the status quo cannot be maintained indefinitely. Our best hope now is to use what fossil fuels we have left as the platform to develop a sustainable energy supply.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#13)
    by Slado on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:43:09 AM EST
    Jondee. It's not all the lefts fault but the things you mentioned do nothing for the cureent problems, IE lack of oil supply. We need to do both simutaneaously to both decrease our dependency and stop demands rapid growth. We decided long ago before this administration to stop drilling for Oil int he US. Some cry and moan about Bush and his oil buddies but the truth is Bush and his oil buddies would love nothing more then to drill and refine oil right here in the USofA. Instead the Oil Companies are forced to buy the main ingrediant from State controlled oil monopolies. Funny how none of you get mad at Venezuala whose citizens buy gas for $.11/gallon.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#14)
    by Dadler on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:45:17 AM EST
    Boy are we an unimaginative lot. We have all the advantages of freedom and certain renewable resources can be replenished, and we still sit here talking about how to play the same old game with slightly different rules. It's time, forgive the nuclear bomb anaology, for a Manhatten project for energy. Period. But that would mean Bush would have to turn his back on Big Oil Profits. And he won't do that because he's bought and paid for. America can easily live on HALF the fuel it wastes.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#15)
    by Dadler on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:46:36 AM EST
    And how, per se, do you make RECORD PROFITS if costs are so high??? You don't, you use the "crisis" as an excuse to gouge and profiteer. Perhaps this will lead to a revolt and alternative energy's day, but for now it's simply greedy, thoughtless, short-sighted, destructive to the nation, and utterly corrupt.

    Jondee: I think it's most fair to say both sides of the political aisle should shoulder a lot of blame for our energy policy failures. During Clinton's administration, when supply was relative secure and crude fell to around $12 a barrel, conservation standards were not rigorously enforced or sought. With gas prices at such low levels, the pressure just plainly did not exist. Those with the foresight to call for more strict conservation and CAFE standards were largely ignored. I have a feeling we approach the question of alternative fuels research from different perspectives. I have always felt that research of this nature, that seeks a commercially viable product, is best conducted in the private sector. High fossil fuel cost will drive private capital to develop alternatives. When crude and natural gas were at historically low prices, the economic incentive to invest in alternative energy R&D simply did not exist. That's changing. As for an economical "long-term comprehensive energy policy": I haven't heard anything from either party that would qualify as a solution to this problem. Politicians can wax poetic and promise the moon about gas prices, investigations, rebates and the like but crafting a policy that addresses the reality is far more complex that anyone wants to admit. Let's be fair here.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#17)
    by Dadler on Mon May 01, 2006 at 11:12:40 AM EST
    Chase, How much energy do you think you waste in an average day? Between solar, wind, geothermal, biofeuls and the like our energy problems are only as far away as we choose to make them. We have all the ability, but not the will. Petroleum is done, should be, and we should be the leaders in developing alternatives TO THE MAX. But we're addicted, we have too much easy and lazy "freedom", and we don't have the leadership NOW (Clinton is not president, was the most disappointing in my life, let's talk about today) to take the reins of this obvious need. Because he's in the pocket of Big Oil and hasn't an imaginative bone in his body about ANYTHING. Remember, this is the man who came into office having been quoted as saying "I don't understand how poor people think." If he can grasp that, he cannot possibly grasp the much more complicated problems facing us today, energy only one of them, but intensely vital.

    I did some back of the envelope calculations a week or two ago of Exxon's '05 year-end financials. I think I threw out the actual calculations, but, iirc, in broad strokes, their sales were up, on a percentage basis, by about 1/2 the pecentage that their profits were up. iow, about 1/2 of their increased '05 profits were due to increased sales, and the other 1/2 due to increased profit margins. Those increased profit margins could be argued either as "profiteering" (excess profit margins) or "getting back to reasonable profit margins after years of lower-than-reasonable profit margins" depending on your viewpoint. I think the bottom line is that worldwide demand seems to be increasing at a rate higher than the rate at which world-wide production is increasing. I remember having these exact same conversations on-line about 10 years or more ago, when that big gas-price increase was happening...

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#19)
    by soccerdad on Mon May 01, 2006 at 12:50:15 PM EST
    The rise in gas prices is here to stay. They may drop back some but the trend for the future is ever upwards. The 2 main reasons are increased demand and decreased supply, i.e. peak oil. Production in saudi Arabia, Iran, the North Sea are all starting to drop. Its been estimated that at present rates Iran has about 10 years supply left. Although there are more places to drill, the locations are very expensive and the supply is not that large compared to those in the ME. The never ending series of resource wars has already started and will take us to Iran, Venezula, who knows maybe even Canda. These long term conditions are not going to change. In the short term Increased instability in the ME and the prospect of ongoing wars will continue to drive prices up even further. For anyone interested in following the oil situation from a more technical perspective see The Oil Drum

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#20)
    by desertswine on Mon May 01, 2006 at 01:07:20 PM EST
    The never ending series of resource wars has already started and will take us to Iran, Venezula, who knows maybe even Canda.
    Bolivia nationalizes natural gas, petroleum soon to follow.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#22)
    by Dadler on Mon May 01, 2006 at 02:38:20 PM EST
    Soccer, Nice link. And it's not like we have all those alternatives fuels and the like which freedom, according to "free market" capitalism, is supposed to produce for consumption. We have monopolies, in fuels and politics.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Mon May 01, 2006 at 02:42:34 PM EST
    In connected news, I myself saw 2 evictions in process by county sheriffs in my neighborhood on the way home from work. It's gonna get a hell of a lot worse, and a lot people's backs will be broken, as the cost of living sky rockets due to energy costs. I hope that Exxon "fat bastard", the guy who looks like he's got a couple hundred thousand stashed in his jowels, enjoys the windfall while the evictions go down. The only practical solution I see is individual conservation. The energy industry, and the govt. they paid for, seem quite content. Except for the pandering and empty rhetoric of course. Walk more, drive slower, cancel that road trip, and easy on the AC this summer.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#24)
    by roy on Mon May 01, 2006 at 03:45:51 PM EST
    Dadler, What's the difference between increasing profits, and "profiteering" or "price gouging"? I know what they mean in the context of selling vital goods that are in short supply, but that's not the case for gas. We have enough gas to meet demand, it's just expensive. So what do they mean here?

    charlie: As much as I'm tempted to respond, I know I would be wasting space on you. Is there such a thing as a "Native Troll"? kdog: So you're pretty sure these evictions were related to gas prices? Maybe they were some of the folks who were doing some free spending in March free spending in March and couldn't pay their housing bills. On the other hand, I commend your recognition of how to get out of this "crisis": personal conservation. In fact, that's the only way. As Krauthammer wrote on Friday, "Say it with me: supply and demand". and roy: Woe be it for me to answer for Dadler, but the difference between "price gouging" and "profit taking" is that profit taking is a legitimate business activity and "price gouging" is a myth.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#26)
    by kdog on Mon May 01, 2006 at 04:28:12 PM EST
    There's good fair business...and there's screwing your customers because you've got them by the balls. People with a conscience know the difference. It's time for people to make sacrifices and make do with less oil based energy...if for no other reason than to stop giving these greedy bastards our money. That's all I'm trying to do, stop being such a sucker at the whim of greedy American business and greedy Arab tyrants.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#27)
    by Sailor on Mon May 01, 2006 at 04:30:53 PM EST
    the difference between "price gouging" and "profit taking" is that profit taking is a legitimate business activity and "price gouging" is a myth.
    of course, that's why AT&T, Standard Oil, the airlines and the railroads were broken up ... just for a myth. price gouging, aka price fixing, aka collusion, aka conspiracy is a reality.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#28)
    by jondee on Mon May 01, 2006 at 04:37:54 PM EST
    Chase - Actually Charlie made some very valid points. What part exactly was "a troll"? Face it, you guys as a group have a tradition of giving the most rudimentary lip-service to conservation at best and resorting to outright ridicule about "big government intervention" and "chicken little" etc at your worst. Now your uber-conservative prez is talking the talk and you guys want to pass the buck and say that the Dems are as responsible as everyone else.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#29)
    by Sailor on Mon May 01, 2006 at 04:53:38 PM EST
    So you're pretty sure these evictions were related to gas prices?
    if you are already living paycheck to paycheck, and you have to decide between filling the tank to drive to the job or paying the heating bill to keep your family warm, what woud you choose? Oh, wait, I know the answer, 'I'd choose better parents with more money!" Dismissed!* obligatory snark: used w/o permission; cds1 & cds10 own dismissed on this blog;-)

    Sailor: Apparently you never paid attention in your economics classes. There are "efficiency monopolies" (aka natural monopolies) and "coercive monopolies" (such as those protected by governments). AT&T was a coercive monopoly and was divested as a result. Federal law protected their network and actively prevented competition. That's not the case with American oil companies today. Standard Oil was an efficiency economy. There was no evidence (and certainly no finding) of price gouging on their part - in fact the price of oil and petroleum products plummeted before their 1911 divestiture. And by 1911 they were losing market share to upstart competition. As for airlines: they weren't "broken up". It was their practice of communicating seat prices and adjusting them in lock-step that was put in check. Again, that doesn't appear to be the case in modern oil and gas, either in production, transportation or retail phases. Finally, the railroad example is the just about as weak as the Standard Oil one. Railroads were investigated for predatory pricing (also a myth), not price gouging. The price of transporting goods across the nation plummeted--good for consumers and small business alike. So, wanna try again?

    And Sailor, once again:
    Oh, wait, I know the answer, 'I'd choose better parents with more money!"
    Actually I wouldnt. You said they were being evicted. I assume that means they didn't pay their rent. And if you're living paycheck to paycheck, and the decision is to pay RENT or FILL THE GAS TANK, you pay rent and walk/take the bus/ride a bike/etc. And it's May, turn the heat off.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#32)
    by Sailor on Mon May 01, 2006 at 06:50:01 PM EST
    chase, spoken like a guy who's got money. try living on the far side of the valley because it's the only place you can afford and the buses stop running at 7 but your job is in the city and you don't get off 'till eight. And that is the case EVERY month of the year, not just May.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#33)
    by roy on Mon May 01, 2006 at 07:14:42 PM EST
    Sailor,
    There's good fair business...and there's screwing your customers because you've got them by the balls. People with a conscience know the difference.
    Sounds like a "know it when you see it" standard. OK, but I was hoping for something more solid as people consider levying new taxes or creating new crimes. I guess some things are just too subtle to quantify, like money.
    price gouging, aka price fixing, aka collusion, aka conspiracy ...
    Actually, those are four different things. You're strengthening my hunch that when people say oil companies have performed some specific ill act, they just mean "bad money thing".

    Had a Daihatsu Charade back in the mid-80's that got 45mpg then. It was a great car. Then the US stopped importing them. Why? Were they too good a buy and too economical? Daihatsu still makes them too. Look them up on the web. A site in Australia shows the 2006 Charade. It looks nearly the same as my old car, and I'll bet it gets better gas milage. I think Big Oil has screwed the Bush Admin, the American Public and the American auto industry. Screwed, do'd and tattoo'd us all. They make out like bandits and we're stuck. Question is, who were in those Engergy Task Force meetings with Cheney back in 2001 and what DID they talk about. Can anyone guess?

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#35)
    by scarshapedstar on Tue May 02, 2006 at 03:58:33 AM EST
    Anyone who thinks that we will never run out of oil if we just put up more oil wells is simply not all there mentally. And there seem to be several of them in this thread. Whether oil peaks today or in five years, we're still screwed. ANWR is quite literally a drop in the bucket compared to India and China's growing thirst for oil, PPJ-and- co. We needed a Manhattan Project-style initiative to develop alternative energy sources five years ago. Instead, today, we get a $100 bribe. Heckuva job, Bushies.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Sailor on Tue May 02, 2006 at 06:42:47 AM EST
    chase, in the future when you quote me, please quote me.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#37)
    by Peaches on Tue May 02, 2006 at 08:57:45 AM EST
    Apparently you never paid attention in your economics classes. There are "efficiency monopolies" (aka natural monopolies) and "coercive monopolies" (such as those protected by governments).
    Pay attention, now Chase, I am about to give you an economic lesson: A natural monopoly is a monopoly where one person or company owns the resource for sale. Whether or not it is efficient is for the market to decide. A coercive monopoly is a myth and is not mentioned in any economics that I am aware of. Monopolies are often coercive, whether natural or not, and have an ability to influence price in the market because of the lack of compitition. Monopolies may still be efficient, however, because of economies of scale. Economies of scale alos can produce natural monopolies. Economies of scale is a phrase for the efficiency gains that result when a business or industry gets larger and has larger plants, investment, capital, etc. The result is often the elimination of competition. This can mean efficiency gains, but it may also lead to control in price and profits for the companies and industry. Price gouging refers to the practice of colluding within a particular industry and artificailly raising prices. Enron and other california companies were accused of price gouging in the California energy crisis in the late 90's. Profit taking is what results in a market that is controlled by monopoly power. In the world of perfect competetion there is no profit. However, perfect competition is a myth. In economic theory we refer to monopoly power as a market failure. A failure, because the overall efficiency gains resulting from economies of scale are not blanced out with economic gains for the economy as a whole that would result from a market where perfect competition was the rule. Finally, in economics we recognize tradeoffs. The main tradeoff of markets is equity vs. efficiency. Markets are amazingly efficient. If you are in the position to gain profits in a market that has failed due to monopoly power, then you will be in favor of efficency over equity. IF you are part of the majority that suffers the losses due to monopoly power - market failures (I'd draw the graphs for you, but you can find them in any econ textbook: graph of an industry with pefect competition, vs. one controlled by monopoly) - then you will be in favor of equity over efficiency. This will mean you will look to gov't to craft legislation regulating monopolies. When this is done, the monoplies will scream about the losses in efficencies. And when monopolies control gov't, the efficiency argument will always win over the equity argument. Lesson over.

    Re: Will "Pain at the Pump" Take Back the House? (none / 0) (#38)
    by Dadler on Tue May 02, 2006 at 07:02:11 PM EST
    Roy, What about vital goods that have no alternatives to their usage? And those that are controlled by a de-facto monopoly? I wish we'd all conserve to high hell and just learn to live in the dark more, so to speak, but I have to call it like it apparently is -- profiteering and gouging. To anyone who's just getting by financially it's economic homocide.

    kdog--I feel your frustration, especially when I just spent 50 bucks to fill up my Taurus. However, I'm not exactly sure that it's entirely a matter of the oil companies screwing us. After all, there is quite a high demand, and things like the hurricanes and all the unrest going on are bound to affect supply. I do agree with you, however, on the fact that we need to conserve-- just use less of their product and we won't have to spend all our money on it.

    Rachel, I agree with you on the factors contributing to price. I also agree that conservation is the best way to avoid paying so much. However, I think that what we really need are long-term options. Our Congress needs to develop comprehensive energy policy. In doing so, they must not leave any option unexplored, no matter how painful it might seem.